Just done my re tune and my TV3/Virgin media channel is gone. All the rest of the channels are there RTE1, RTE2 and TG4, i've checked all of the TV, there are Virgin Media 2 & 3 but not the main one (Virgin Media) for the sports etc. My freeview box is built into the TV...anyone else get shafted?
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Just done my re tune and my TV3/Virgin media channel is gone. All the rest of the channels are there RTE1, RTE2 and TG4, i've checked all of the TV, there are Virgin Media 2 & 3 but not the main one (Virgin Media) for the sports etc. My freeview box is built into the TV...anyone else get shafted?
I'm shafted up here as well can't get BBC anymore not sure what's going on??!!
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Just done my re tune and my TV3/Virgin media channel is gone. All the rest of the channels are there RTE1, RTE2 and TG4, i've checked all of the TV, there are Virgin Media 2 & 3 but not the main one (Virgin Media) for the sports etc. My freeview box is built into the TV...anyone else get shafted?
Have same problem, lost ALL Channels on Soarview
Had perfect RTE, TG4 and Virgin media before via Saorview
Any solutions??
Quote from: giveherlong on September 06, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Just done my re tune and my TV3/Virgin media channel is gone. All the rest of the channels are there RTE1, RTE2 and TG4, i've checked all of the TV, there are Virgin Media 2 & 3 but not the main one (Virgin Media) for the sports etc. My freeview box is built into the TV...anyone else get shafted?
Have same problem, lost ALL Channels on Soarview
Had perfect RTE, TG4 and Virgin media before via Saorview
Any solutions??
Move house.
Quote from: trailer on September 06, 2019, 11:48:01 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on September 06, 2019, 11:23:13 AM
Quote from: illdecide on September 06, 2019, 10:55:03 AM
Just done my re tune and my TV3/Virgin media channel is gone. All the rest of the channels are there RTE1, RTE2 and TG4, i've checked all of the TV, there are Virgin Media 2 & 3 but not the main one (Virgin Media) for the sports etc. My freeview box is built into the TV...anyone else get shafted?
Have same problem, lost ALL Channels on Soarview
Had perfect RTE, TG4 and Virgin media before via Saorview
Any solutions??
Move house.
You're some pup trailer, sides are splitting here laughing.
'Ignore' is a great thing on this. But ffs please quit quoting him.
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 06, 2019, 08:08:25 PM
'Ignore' is a great thing on this. But ffs please quit quoting him.
How do you use it or more importantly where is the magic button...
Quote from: illdecide on September 07, 2019, 12:16:09 AM
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 06, 2019, 08:08:25 PM
'Ignore' is a great thing on this. But ffs please quit quoting him.
How do you use it or more importantly where is the magic button...
1. Click on "Profile" at the top of the page (three to the right of "Home")...this opens a window with your profile details.
2. Hover over "Modify Profile" and you will see a drop-down list, the bottom one being "Buddies/Ignore List... " Hover over that and drop-down list will appear with two items...click on "Edit Ignore List"
3. Under the heading "Add to Ignore List" you will see a box to type a member's name in. Start typing...notice it helps you along with everything available from every character you enter appearing as a drop down. For example, if you type in "kerry" , the 4th name on the list is Kerry Mike, Long live Kerry Mike....but if you add the letter "f" to your typing, the list will be shortened to the following members: "kerryforsam", "KerryforSam-2019", kerryforsam16" and ""kerryforsam19".
4. Select whoever you wish to ignore and hit the "add" button. That poster will the appear in your ignore list.
5. Clicking the red X on the right hand side of a poster's name on the "Edit Ignore List" will remove that poster from your Ignore List.
That's my non-technical summary of it anyway. Feel free to correct me if needed.
Quote from: playwiththewind1st on September 06, 2019, 08:08:25 PM
'Ignore' is a great thing on this. But ffs please quit quoting him.
+1
The perfect solution for the angry/stupid/annoying brigade who flood every thread with multiple quotations as they incapable/too lazy to edit.
f**k that multiple quote thing drives me up the walls
First retune, I lost RTE and TG4.
Retuned it a few times now. Got back RTE, but can't get BBC Four and BBC News on HD.
Lost the Now 80s channel
Quote from: Jim Bob on September 07, 2019, 03:33:52 PM
Lost the Now 80s channel
The Now 90's channel seemed to close a couple weeks ago. Don't think it was due to the retune though. Now that I looked Now 80's has gone too.
And Keep it Country gone too... jaysus this is all too much for me!! ;D
Still have TG4 & RTE. BBC 4 now on 106.
Quote from: BennyCake on September 07, 2019, 05:27:22 PM
The Now 90's channel seemed to close a couple weeks ago. Don't think it was due to the retune though. Now that I looked Now 80's has gone too.
And Keep it Country gone too... jaysus this is all too much for me!! ;D
Think Keep it country closed a while back.
Suggestion for all - get your self an amazon fire stick, get IPTV. Will give you channels from across the world. full sky, ireland, uk, spanish, usa, etc etc
DM me if you want details
Iptv requires good broadband, apart from being crooked.
10-15mb/s yes.
each to their own :o
as a result the NI Mux that carries RTE1, RTE2 & TG4 is now also broadcast from a few new relay sites which includes Armagh, Newcastle, Whitehead & Strabane.
Is the NI Mux being broadcast from Strabane already? When would that have been switched on? Would smaller outlying relay sites feeding off Strabane also have it?
Cbeebies HD gone as well ffs...
Quote from: Jeepers Creepers on September 11, 2019, 03:12:32 PM
Cbeebies HD gone as well ffs...
FFS!!!
I thought maybe it was just my reception but obviously not. I'm missing BBC News HD, BBC 4 HD and that one. I assume they won't be returning?
So if we don't re-tune, do we keep the channels that some of you have lost since re-tuning?
Quote from: Snapchap on September 11, 2019, 03:23:12 PM
So if we don't re-tune, do we keep the channels that some of you have lost since re-tuning?
I tried that but the screens was sticking and that on certain channels for me.
Thanks for the response
Might try and move the aerial then to pick up directly from Strabane and try a retune then
With the changes to Saorview frequencies, i was forced to re-tune two TVs (Samsung and Hisense). Both are picking up the Saorview channels in the 800's but the problem is that both the quick program guide and more detailed guide are showing "Viewer Advisory" for every channel in the listings, with more information about the retune, despite having already tuned the TV's.
The EPG works fine for RTE1 and RTE2 in the 50's which come from the repeater in the north.
Anybody experience anything similar, or Fionntamhnach - any ides?
Quote from: JohnDenver on January 27, 2020, 03:36:24 PM
With the changes to Saorview frequencies, i was forced to re-tune two TVs (Samsung and Hisense). Both are picking up the Saorview channels in the 800's but the problem is that both the quick program guide and more detailed guide are showing "Viewer Advisory" for every channel in the listings, with more information about the retune, despite having already tuned the TV's.
The EPG works fine for RTE1 and RTE2 in the 50's which come from the repeater in the north.
Anybody experience anything similar, or Fionntamhnach - any ides?
Same with me
Done the retune back in September
Just noticed the viewer advisory popping up a very odd time
Same with me JD.
I was recording the highlights on RTE HD last night and I couldn't do anything, sound, change channel etc. Thought it was the batteries but it's whatever is going on.
Was told by a fella in work that the masthead amplifier at the aerial needs to be changed from C/D to group B or wideband due to the Dundalk transmitter changing frequency. Don't know how accurate that is, but I've same problem with the 800 channels at the minute i.e. Viewer advisory and no programme info.
Quote from: balladmaker on January 27, 2020, 04:42:29 PM
Was told by a fella in work that the masthead amplifier at the aerial needs to be changed from C/D to group B or wideband due to the Dundalk transmitter changing frequency. Don't know how accurate that is, but I've same problem with the 800 channels at the minute i.e. Viewer advisory and no programme info.
This would affect the strength of the signal, but not give an error.
One idea is to try to tune the channels manually rather than a complete scan. Clarmont Cairn is moving to channels 42 and 45.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on January 27, 2020, 05:27:46 PM
You can tell if a service is picking up the old or new frequencies as the old frequencies have a full stop at the end of the channel name e.g. "RTÉ One." instead of RTÉ One"
Would a Nordie not take offence at being given an example of what a full stop would look like at the end.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on January 27, 2020, 05:27:46 PM
The "old" Saorview frequencies are due to be switched off on 4th March. The "new" frequencies, if applicable depending where you live, are already running.
You can tell if a service is picking up the old or new frequencies as the old frequencies have a full stop at the end of the channel name e.g. "RTÉ One." instead of RTÉ One"
In many cases in d'north, adjustments to TV aerials might require a new "diplexer" and maybe a new aerial for cross-border reception. The diplexer combines both aerials to be properly combined into one coax cable into the building, and they work by having each input cover a specific range of frequencies - some in use can't handle the new Saorview frequencies as they are lower than the input of the diplexer to be fed with an "RTÉ" aerial. If your aerials are outdoors, then you have to go at them there.
As a temporary reprieve for reception of RTÉ One, RTÉ2 & TG4, those with Freeview HD equipment (or any TV/STB with a DVB-T2 tuner) can try tuning in to the local multiplex in NI that carries them. For East of the Bann, as well as Eastern Tyrone and South Derry, go into the receiver menu to do a manual tune and try either channel 33 (570 MHz) or channel 48 (690 MHz). In (most of) Fermanagh and western & northern Tyrone, try instead either channel 30 (546 MHz) or channel 40 (626 MHz).
That seems to be the case, Fionn - even after I have manually retuned - the listing is showing as "RTE One." meaning it's still picking up the old frequency.
As you mention, the local multiplex is showing the channel listings ok, but the saorview versions are the ones i am after.
I am guessing the diplexer replacement is the easiest method to start with rather than looking about new aerials. Is that something i could change myself without getting an Aerial man in? And if so, any recommendations of what one to buy?
Just bumping this again in the hope that Fionntamhnach might offer some further advice given his expertise in the area :D
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 04, 2020, 10:19:01 AM
Just bumping this again in the hope that Fionntamhnach might offer some further advice given his expertise in the area :D
I have the . channels coming from Clermont Carn.
A retune doesn't pick up the new ones....
Do i need a different aerial I wonder!!
Quote from: johnnycool on February 04, 2020, 02:39:36 PM
Quote from: JohnDenver on February 04, 2020, 10:19:01 AM
Just bumping this again in the hope that Fionntamhnach might offer some further advice given his expertise in the area :D
I have the . channels coming from Clermont Carn.
A retune doesn't pick up the new ones....
Do i need a different aerial I wonder!!
Yeah i'm in the same boat with the "." channels. Although not necessarily all of the saorview channels which i find strange.
I was hoping a new "diplexer" might be enough rather than new aerials, but i've no idea.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 05:33:32 PM
John Denver - the diplexer is almost always installed near the aerials, if the aerials are outside then they will be on the pole holding the aerial. In that scenario, you would have to get to the TV aerials to change the diplexer. You'd need to know what frequency coverage the new diplexer would require, not to mention that depending on the manufacturer they may be clamp connections or connected by F connectors (F connector is what is at the end of a coax cable that connects to the tuner of a satellite receiver. Unless you know what to do and are completely confident of climbing onto a roof etc.** then get someone out who knows what they're doing.
** Obligatory disclaimer about climbing at heights without taking proper precautions & safety steps, as a fall even from a single storey roof can cause death or permanent injury. No more Rod Hull's, please.
Fionntamhnach
Where is a good place to get this type of kit?
For those in the north, if you ring the Freeview helpline about retune they will send someone out free of charge. They put up a new aerial for me last year for free as I lost my soarview channels, still only have some of them as the signal is poor.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on February 05, 2020, 07:07:39 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on February 05, 2020, 05:57:33 PM
Fionntamhnach
Where is a good place to get this type of kit?
For UHF-UHF diplexers, Fringe Electronics still make varying models that they sell themselves online...
https://fringeelectronics.co.uk/diplexers.html
...in fact they seem to be the only manufacturer in the Irish & GB market that still actively makes them. Used to be more popular in the analogue days.
Where Divis/Black Mtn (FV) & Clermont Carn (SV) aerials need to be combined, model number 211-126 is required if one or both aerials need a masthead amplifier, but if neither require it then 211-181 should be OK.
A couple of other sources...
https://www.freetv.ie/uhf-diplexer/
https://www.aerialsandtv.com/product/diplexer-channel-38-uhf-uhf
In the first link, there is only a DC passthrough on input 1, not input 2. If you don't require your signal from Clermont Carn to be boosted with a masthead amp then this isn't an issue.
Make sure the diplexer is a UHF/UHF model, and not a VHF/UHF model (designed to combine and FM or DAB aerial along with a UHF TV aerial) or a TV/SAT diplexer, which is designed to carry both terrestrial TV & satellite signals down the one coax cable (doesn't work for Sky Q though).
Thanks. I have a Fringe Electronics booster and it seems good stuff. In the badlands of South Armagh Divis needs boosted while Clarmont Carn does not. In fact, you don't need a separate Clarmont aerial at all, signal quality is fine on the Divis aerial. I was going to try using some sort of splitter and boost the Divis bands only, this would be inside the roof fairly close to the aerial. I am happy to work on the electronics, but am not climbing on the roof!
If Rod Hull had adopted that attitude he and Emu would still be wreaking havoc today
Champions league is blocked on the 52 (rte2) but is not blocked on 803(rte2). After manual retune it still says viewer advisory. Will a new aerial sort this out
Cheers
Quote from: redzone on February 19, 2020, 09:47:39 PM
Champions league is blocked on the 52 (rte2) but is not blocked on 803(rte2). After manual retune it still says viewer advisory. Will a new aerial sort this out
Cheers
Where are you? A manual retune on the new frequency might do the trick.
May do this tonight myself, I'm in the North - don't really watch much TV but the RTE/TG4 is handy for the football. The info here will be valuable should I lose anything - much appreciated to the contributors.
Yeah much credit to Fionn especially for his knowledge.
I'm adopting the approach of waiting for the old frequencies to be turned off and hoping that a re-tune at that stage picks up the new ones. Possibly blind optimism but we'll soon find out!
Just been quoted £170 for new aerial, diplexer and amp to pick up the new RTE channels from Clermont Carn which I though wasn't too bad....
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
After tomorrow you'll only have one version.
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
The one with the full stop is going to disappear.
Are the other ones in and around the 51, 53 mark on your freeview? If so I think they're coming from Belfast.
Quote from: johnnycool on March 03, 2020, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
The one with the full stop is going to disappear.
Are the other ones in and around the 51, 53 mark on your freeview? If so I think they're coming from Belfast.
Aye they're the hoors that block the live football
Quote from: illdecide on March 03, 2020, 04:08:35 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 03, 2020, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
The one with the full stop is going to disappear.
Are the other ones in and around the 51, 53 mark on your freeview? If so I think they're coming from Belfast.
Aye they're the hoors that block the live football
Yip,
that's why I'm looking at spunking £170 on a new aerial to pick up the signal from Louth..
Quote from: johnnycool on March 03, 2020, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
The one with the full stop is going to disappear.
Are the other ones in and around the 51, 53 mark on your freeview? If so I think they're coming from Belfast.
No they're in the 800s
Hi Fionntamhnach...was looking some advice off you if you have the time...I'm in North Armagh and have lost the TV3 channel (Virgin Media 1) and as everyone else the RTE 2 is now on the 52 channels where they block the live sports (big problem for me). I was reading thru one of your previous posts about filter boxes on Aerial's (211-181 A+37 to E)...how will i know what filter i need and if i need an aerial as well as a new filter box?
Sorry for sounding a bit silly but just me and new technology takes a while to filter into the brain...lol.
Quote from: illdecide on March 04, 2020, 11:14:12 PM
Hi Fionntamhnach...was looking some advice off you if you have the time...I'm in North Armagh and have lost the TV3 channel (Virgin Media 1) and as everyone else the RTE 2 is now on the 52 channels where they block the live sports (big problem for me). I was reading thru one of your previous posts about filter boxes on Aerial's (211-181 A+37 to E)...how will i know what filter i need and if i need an aerial as well as a new filter box?
Sorry for sounding a bit silly but just me and new technology takes a while to filter into the brain...lol.
I have RTE normal and HD working as before.
Plus I've got BBC4 HD back, and CBBC HD, Quest HD back again. Lost them after last retune. Also gained Now 70s and 80s.
Retune performed and I am getting RTE1 and other channels on the 42, but I can't pick up RTE2, TG4 on the 45 channel working off the aerial below.
* Clermont Carn (Co. Louth)
Louth, Meath, Monaghan, Armagh, Down, Tyrone (East), Derry (South), Dublin (North), Antrim (South), Kildare (North)
Changing from RF Channels 52 & 56 to 42 & 45, aerial change *may* be needed.
Retuned last night, at first I somehow manged to pick up RTE 1/2 +1 but not actually RTE2 with no TG4 either.
Retuned again after, all looks good. No RTE 1. etc.
Picked up RTE +1s which I never had before and Virgin 3 but look to have lost some freeview channels but nothing straight away noticeable that'll eat me up. It'll do.
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 05:14:16 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on March 03, 2020, 03:24:50 PM
Quote from: Pub Bore on March 03, 2020, 01:39:04 PM
What happens if I don't get to retune before tomorrow? I re-tuned my TV at the weekend. The guide now shows two versions of each channel, one with a full stop and one without??
The one with the full stop is going to disappear.
Are the other ones in and around the 51, 53 mark on your freeview? If so I think they're coming from Belfast.
No they're in the 800s
I can stand corrected but I thought those in the 800's were from a HD transmitter in the South whereas the 51, 53 ones were SD from Belfast and hence get blue screened out when there's something on RTE like the champions league and the broadcast rights belong to BT or whoever.
Do a manual tune on 42 and 45 to get Clermont, without mucking up your other stations.
I did an auto-retune last night and the disappeared RTE HD and Virgin Media channels in the 800's returned, happy days.
I have a couple of tvs running from the same arial. I did a digital retune on every tv. Two have RTE but 1 does not. Is the age of the TV a factor in if a ability to pick up the new signals @fionntonagh
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on March 08, 2020, 10:32:59 PM
Remember, it may be worth contacting the Freeview helpline that I posted a page or two back, as if you have lost reception they may arrange for an aerial installer to upgrade your aerial reception system free of charge if reception of "lost" services can be brought back. Otherwise, unless you know exactly what you need and know how to fix it up, don't even think about getting up to the roof top to mess about - get someone in whom knows what they're doing whom can fix it up.
Sure you'd have to get a TV licence then.
Lads need a bit of help from the techies here. Not actually for myself...but hopefully someone can help with past experience.
New TV purchased, picks up all RTE channels including HD and +1 (more than my own actual tv). Picks up TV Guide, what is on etc. RTE worked fine on the prior TV it was just a bit small.
But when you go to watch it says "Video not supported". We are in the North here. No RTE issue prior whatsoever to this.
Basic digital and analogue scan performed, no boxes involved.
Anyone any ideas?
Can you watch BBC HD channels on your new TV?
Quote from: armaghniac on November 01, 2020, 01:04:52 PM
Can you watch BBC HD channels on your new TV?
No can't get those in HD
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on November 01, 2020, 04:41:24 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on November 01, 2020, 01:04:52 PM
Can you watch BBC HD channels on your new TV?
No can't get those in HD
You must have a seriously old cheap class of TV. False economy if you wanted the real RTÉ signal.
Any set receiving the HD channels would have been fine.
Somebody might have a suitable box lying around from the changeover that you could plug in to the TV.
Yeah it was an old one - got it all sorted in the meantime - the old tv didn't pick up the new signal, unsurprisingly I suppose.
Thanks anyway!
Looking small bit of advice for someone on best way to pick up RTE/TG4, Virgin media etc in the North
No signal from the Saorview transmitters available and no NI Mux either
They had a southern sky card (for nearly 10 yrs) up to recent days but that has been cut off now without notice despite no issues with payment
Any ideas what the best way would be to get these channels back?
Quote from: giveherlong on February 05, 2021, 08:19:26 PM
Looking small bit of advice for someone on best way to pick up RTE/TG4, Virgin media etc in the North
No signal from the Saorview transmitters available and no NI Mux either
They had a southern sky card (for nearly 10 yrs) up to recent days but that has been cut off now without notice despite no issues with payment
Any ideas what the best way would be to get these channels back?
If you got a Saorsat dish you'd get RTÉ.
Otherwise if you have a solid Internet service perhaps there is a VPN?
Or wait for Fionntamhnach!
Quote from: armaghniac on February 06, 2021, 01:39:56 AM
Quote from: giveherlong on February 05, 2021, 08:19:26 PM
Looking small bit of advice for someone on best way to pick up RTE/TG4, Virgin media etc in the North
No signal from the Saorview transmitters available and no NI Mux either
They had a southern sky card (for nearly 10 yrs) up to recent days but that has been cut off now without notice despite no issues with payment
Any ideas what the best way would be to get these channels back?
If you got a Saorsat dish you'd get RTÉ.
Otherwise if you have a solid Internet service perhaps there is a VPN?
Or wait for Fionntamhnach!
Funny enough, from the start of July there were some technical changes involving saorsat coverage. In practical terms the footprint has gotten smaller. In my case here in the Mournes the signal strength has dropped dramatically making viewing very patchy using an 80cm dish.
Anyone considering it should go for the larger size dish(in my case 100cm) with clear line of sight. It's actually really difficult to get a signal at all and not all satellite installers can install it!
I asked this question the other night on a different thread but my post and the whole thread seemsf to have disappeared :-[. I can't imagine there was anything offensive in it so I'll ask again.
I'm in Monaghan/Armagh border area and have always had a great range of digital UK channels off my aerial but in the last couple of weeks I seem to have lost the majority of these channels and what's left, mainly BBC/ITV SD are of average quality. Has a transmitter been turned off or something.
Re-scan of channels doesn't help, thanks in advance.
Quote from: Boycey on April 08, 2021, 07:49:38 PM
I asked this question the other night on a different thread but my post and the whole thread seemsf to have disappeared :-[. I can't imagine there was anything offensive in it so I'll ask again.
I'm in Monaghan/Armagh border area and have always had a great range of digital UK channels off my aerial but in the last couple of weeks I seem to have lost the majority of these channels and what's left, mainly BBC/ITV SD are of average quality. Has a transmitter been turned off or something.
Re-scan of channels doesn't help, thanks in advance.
I asked a similar question on the aforementioned disappeared thread-
Previously flawless reception on an elderly relatives' TV has recently changed dramatically and with no sign of aerial movement a re-tune has strangely now excluded RTE1 and Virgin Media 3 amongst others.
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on April 08, 2021, 07:56:17 PM
Sounds like a problem with your reception set up, maybe a strong wind has either damaged your aerial or knocked it out of direction?
Good man, that never even entered my head but I think you could be right. There was a serious stormy day a few weeks back cause I took a picture of my garden fence swaying like a drunk in the wind....