Quinn Insurance in Administration

[supersarsfields]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

[supersarsfields]

So the minute you do something wrong your automatically a bad person regardless of what went before? You must be Mother Teresa alright so (Or a bad person obviously as there doesn't seem to be an in between)

Mother Theresa's hardly an example of good people. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65JxnUW7Wk4

Aye I know, it was just in reply to Tony's (Baloney) earlier comment.

[rrhf]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

The irish Geovernments
bailed The banks by mortgaging a generation of taxpayers money. Sensible young people fled. 
How do we have the time to talk about Quinn?

[armaghniac]

If the likes of Quinn had paid back their loans the Irish government wouldn't have had to bail out the banks.

[mylestheslasher]

If the likes of Quinn had paid back their loans the Irish government wouldn't have had to bail out the banks.

Quinn owed the banks, a foolish government guaranteed the banks loans and saddled the tax payer with it. Quinn may be guilty of breaking the law and a whole host of other things but its not his fault that FF did what they did and fucked the whole country over.

Anyway, hopefully Quinn and this new group can get back to making the group grow again and secure all the jobs that are still in the area.

[armaghniac]

The person who started the fire is responsible for the water damage in putting out the fire, even if you think the fire brigade lost the run of themselves.

[supersarsfields]

If the likes of Quinn had paid back their loans the Irish government wouldn't have had to bail out the banks.

Anglo should never had issued the loans. In doing so they took part in market malmulipation. And the Irish state knew full well what was happening. The loans were issued for Anglos benefit not anyone's else.

[mylestheslasher]

The person who started the fire is responsible for the water damage in putting out the fire, even if you think the fire brigade lost the run of themselves.

To continue your analogy, the fire brigade came and sprayed petrol on the fire and burned the whole town town down.

[armaghniac]

The bank guarantee may have been more than was needed, but something like it was needed and did put out the fire.

[muppet]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

The Quinns are entitled to take as many cases at they can afford. But until a court finds in their favour, it means nothing.

Where I sit he made a spectacularly stupid bet, compounded it when even Anglo officials told him to unwind it, and like anyone who loses a bet he should pay it off. He is trying to escape the consequences of his bet by desperately seeking a technicality in court and thus is trying to have the taxpayer pick up the tab.

Losing a bet is something we all can do, but trying to get every other Irish person to pay for it, and thus keep himself in wealth, is hubris behind my comprehension.

[Tony Baloney]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

The Quinns are entitled to take as many cases at they can afford. But until a court finds in their favour, it means nothing.

Where I sit he made a spectacularly stupid bet, compounded it when even Anglo officials told him to unwind it, and like anyone who loses a bet he should pay it off. He is trying to escape the consequences of his bet by desperately seeking a technicality in court and thus is trying to have the taxpayer pick up the tab.

Losing a bet is something we all can do, but trying to get every other Irish person to pay for it, and thus keep himself in wealth, is hubris behind my comprehension.

But but but what about all the people he employed. Great man etc.

The same people don't seem to realise he gambled their livelihoods and their future.

[thebigfella]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

The Quinns are entitled to take as many cases at they can afford. But until a court finds in their favour, it means nothing.

Where I sit he made a spectacularly stupid bet, compounded it when even Anglo officials told him to unwind it, and like anyone who loses a bet he should pay it off. He is trying to escape the consequences of his bet by desperately seeking a technicality in court and thus is trying to have the taxpayer pick up the tab.

Losing a bet is something we all can do, but trying to get every other Irish person to pay for it, and thus keep himself in wealth, is hubris behind my comprehension.

Well every irish person south of the border. He's still a great man round Fermanagh where they don't have to pick up the tab. 

[T Fearon]

The real disturbing issue is the continuing withdrawal of government leaving the entire livelihoods of sizeable regions in the hands of people like Quinn,and worse still,Governments lauding the likes of Quinn,Alan Sugar etc as employment creators that we should all look up to and aspire to emulate.

[orangeman]

It is disturbing what the governments are doing with Northern Ireland. The governments and political parties have brought in the "accountants" who have advised them that they must reduce the size of the public sector ( 20000 jobs must go ) and the private sector must be grown.

And the main parties have said " not a problem".

[supersarsfields]

The gamble can be forgiven.Egotism and avarice are sadly all too common traits.The ongoing deliberate concealment of assets ,the effective robbery of the Irish state and people is the crime (we'll not mention on the run nephews).Until Mr Quinn puts this right, which he can do at any time,he will not recover his reputation.

The Irish state may well have to pay compensation to the Quinn family regarding their actions over the assets. Ownership of the assets is still disputed. Both sides were playing dirty and there's a case against the State starting now in Feb 2015. Regarding his reputation, that's your opinion and your entitled to it. But it's not shared by everyone.

The Quinns are entitled to take as many cases at they can afford. But until a court finds in their favour, it means nothing.

Where I sit he made a spectacularly stupid bet, compounded it when even Anglo officials told him to unwind it, and like anyone who loses a bet he should pay it off. He is trying to escape the consequences of his bet by desperately seeking a technicality in court and thus is trying to have the taxpayer pick up the tab.

Losing a bet is something we all can do, but trying to get every other Irish person to pay for it, and thus keep himself in wealth, is hubris behind my comprehension.

Fair enough, but I don't agree that the Quinn's  should just drop a case against Anglo just because the State decided to nationalise it. If they think that both Anglo and the Irish state acted wrongly and it adversely affected them then they are entitled to sue. Anglo and the state were very quick to act against Them so it works both ways.