America`s Gun Culture

Started by Wildweasel74, December 14, 2012, 06:00:57 PM

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AZOffaly

Must be number of mass shootings, otherwise 1 wouldn't appear.

Gabriel_Hurl

The sick f**ker just tweeted a video of himself doing the shooting on Twitter  :o

AZOffaly

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Only one way this is ending I'd say. An ex reporter that got fired a year ago. I'm listening to the Police Scanner there. They have no idea where he is. Searching for a Silver Chevy. the Scanner is not like Hill Street Blues anyway!

screenexile

Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 26, 2015, 04:20:50 PM
The sick f**ker just tweeted a video of himself doing the shooting on Twitter  :o

You only thought the first video was mental... this looks like a real life Duke Nukem... horrifying!!

AZOffaly

On the scanner they just cancelled the BOLO for the Suspect and his Vehicle. Sounds like another PD got him.

Gabriel_Hurl

Quote from: AZOffaly on August 26, 2015, 04:38:17 PM
On the scanner they just cancelled the BOLO for the Suspect and his Vehicle. Sounds like another PD got him.

He killed himself - the coward

AZOffaly

That's what I was thinking would happen in my above post.

Boycey

He's not dead but sounds like he soon will be...

Heres a live feed from the station that the tv crew worked for, must be an absolute head-wreaker for the guys working there today. Fair play to them

http://www.wdbj7.com/video/livestreaming

93-DY-SAM

Just waiting for the gun lobby to come out with their twisted logic and say if the two reporters had of been armed this wouldn't have happened. Will the US ever wise up to this scourge?

RIP to the two journalists. Pity the sick ba$tard who did this got his easy way out.

whitey

Quote from: 93-DY-SAM on August 26, 2015, 10:12:29 PM
Just waiting for the gun lobby to come out with their twisted logic and say if the two reporters had of been armed this wouldn't have happened. Will the US ever wise up to this scourge?

RIP to the two journalists. Pity the sick ba$tard who did this got his easy way out.

For better or worse, law abiding citizens are guaranteed, under the constitution, the right to bear arms. That won't be changing anytime soon (if ever)

moysider


It was a hand- gun and can t see how any reforms in American gun law could have prevented that. If somebody wants to kill people badly enough they ll find a way.

The scary thing is - from the footage- he could have done it with a knife, axe, machete.

Of course this only strengthens the gun lobby position. Laws are not heeded by people who rob banks and kill people. So gun laws only affect people who are law abiding. You are not allowed to have hand guns and assault rifles in this country but the people that want to get them and use them manage to get them. It doesn t seem to be that difficult if you wan t to.

I d say most Americans are very responsible gun owners. And I can understand why they would want to hold onto their guns when stuff like this happens. It's simple.  The crims and nutters will get guns illegally anyway so what's the point?

J70

The gun nuts are happy to live with these mass murders and the everyday background rate of murder as collateral damage of their right to own military - grade assault weapons to "protect" themselves against others with the same access. The rest just don't have the same motivation and basically gave up when Sandy Hook wouldn't even budge the nuts an inch. The lunatics won, and any of us who live in the states could be the victim of some deranged moron who had no problem buying a gun.

moysider

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Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2015, 01:39:49 AM
The gun nuts are happy to live with these mass murders and the everyday background rate of murder as collateral damage of their right to own military - grade assault weapons to "protect" themselves against others with the same access. The rest just don't have the same motivation and basically gave up when Sandy Hook wouldn't even budge the nuts an inch. The lunatics won, and any of us who live in the states could be the victim of some deranged moron who had no problem buying a gun.

The deranged moron will have no problem buying a gun anyway, no matter how strict gun laws get - anywhere. Heroin and cocaine are illegal but can be got without too much difficulty. My point is that people that wan t to get a weapon and kill people, will anyway. Any weapon. Look at that Israeli nut that waded into a gay parade pride with a knife and a 16 yr old girl died. Just released from prison he was and continued on his merry way by attacking the next parade he came across. You d have to ban every possible potential weapon down to lollipop sticks to stop a demon like that. Or lock up every potential prospect.

Guns are freely available anyway - probably almost anywhere.

I betcha no candidate running for President will be silly enough to make this an issue. The USA  evolved because of Europeans using guns to get rid of natives (a genocide) and then protect their land.

A big development on the system that controlled Europe for hundreds of years where a minority of killer thugs (knights/barons/princes/earls) built castles and with the backing of holy men (monks) extorted the majority of the population for centuries. The reason they were able to do this was because they had the weapons and were prepared to use them and made sure the peasants had neither weapons or even the opportunity to hunt/fish for food.

It's always a problem when only the bad guys have access to the better weapons.




93-DY-SAM

Quote from: moysider on August 27, 2015, 02:21:38 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2015, 01:39:49 AM
The gun nuts are happy to live with these mass murders and the everyday background rate of murder as collateral damage of their right to own military - grade assault weapons to "protect" themselves against others with the same access. The rest just don't have the same motivation and basically gave up when Sandy Hook wouldn't even budge the nuts an inch. The lunatics won, and any of us who live in the states could be the victim of some deranged moron who had no problem buying a gun.

The deranged moron will have no problem buying a gun anyway, no matter how strict gun laws get - anywhere. Heroin and cocaine are illegal but can be got without too much difficulty. My point is that people that wan t to get a weapon and kill people, will anyway. Any weapon. Look at that Israeli nut that waded into a gay parade pride with a knife and a 16 yr old girl died. Just released from prison he was and continued on his merry way by attacking the next parade he came across. You d have to ban every possible potential weapon down to lollipop sticks to stop a demon like that. Or lock up every potential prospect.

Guns are freely available anyway - probably almost anywhere.

I betcha no candidate running for President will be silly enough to make this an issue. The USA  evolved because of Europeans using guns to get rid of natives (a genocide) and then protect their land.

A big development on the system that controlled Europe for hundreds of years where a minority of killer thugs (knights/barons/princes/earls) built castles and with the backing of holy men (monks) extorted the majority of the population for centuries. The reason they were able to do this was because they had the weapons and were prepared to use them and made sure the peasants had neither weapons or even the opportunity to hunt/fish for food.

It's always a problem when only the bad guys have access to the better weapons.


The problem is this culture has been allowed to develop. Anyone with the intent to kill someone will do it regardless but when getting your hands on a gun of any kind is so easy it's only going to make it easier for those that want to shoot someone to do it. It's impossible to prevent every last killing but tightening gun control can only reduce it.

Are we saying that there are more homicidal maniacs running around America that any other civilised country and they'd be killing people regardless of how hard it was to get their hands on a gun?

GJL

Quote from: moysider on August 27, 2015, 02:21:38 AM
Quote from: J70 on August 27, 2015, 01:39:49 AM
The gun nuts are happy to live with these mass murders and the everyday background rate of murder as collateral damage of their right to own military - grade assault weapons to "protect" themselves against others with the same access. The rest just don't have the same motivation and basically gave up when Sandy Hook wouldn't even budge the nuts an inch. The lunatics won, and any of us who live in the states could be the victim of some deranged moron who had no problem buying a gun.

The deranged moron will have no problem buying a gun anyway, no matter how strict gun laws get - anywhere. Heroin and cocaine are illegal but can be got without too much difficulty. My point is that people that wan t to get a weapon and kill people, will anyway. Any weapon. Look at that Israeli nut that waded into a gay parade pride with a knife and a 16 yr old girl died. Just released from prison he was and continued on his merry way by attacking the next parade he came across. You d have to ban every possible potential weapon down to lollipop sticks to stop a demon like that. Or lock up every potential prospect.

Guns are freely available anyway - probably almost anywhere.

I betcha no candidate running for President will be silly enough to make this an issue. The USA  evolved because of Europeans using guns to get rid of natives (a genocide) and then protect their land.

A big development on the system that controlled Europe for hundreds of years where a minority of killer thugs (knights/barons/princes/earls) built castles and with the backing of holy men (monks) extorted the majority of the population for centuries. The reason they were able to do this was because they had the weapons and were prepared to use them and made sure the peasants had neither weapons or even the opportunity to hunt/fish for food.

It's always a problem when only the bad guys have access to the better weapons.

If gun laws were as tight in the USA as they are here there would be people alive today who are long dead..