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[Doubt]

I don't recall any mention earlier of Doubt with M.Streep  as a nun & school headmaster and P.Hoffman as priest in the parish,
set in a NY catholic boys school in 1964.
I can't praise it enough. An outstanding film in every aspect.

Pity that we have a 1,000 shite movies, about feck all, made, for every one like Doubt.

Got great reviews when it came out and I remember someone saying it was an acting masterclass. Might be a wee bit grim for my tastes though.

Good luck to Sami maybe he will have more luck in the hunt for a league medal

It's a real mystery why everyone hates Man United fans...

Surely if she does give over the information she would be putting her own life at risk.

I would say her life is probably at risk at the moment if these people know that she know's information that could convict them..

I thought some of the info was from an interview with someone from the Real IRA who admitted to the murder. Surely they then know she has info on them. The same comment applies to Main Street - you'll generally find killers opening up about their killings more to journalists than to police officers so I'd guess she has a head start on this one.

[30 years ago?]

In 1979 at the height of the terror campaign the GAA passed a motion 'supporting the struggle for national liberation'.  It wasn't big news to unionists, considered more of a confirmation really, but it didn't go unnoticed.  It seems to have largely been forgotten by many within GAA cirlces for some strange reason.

30 years ago?  

Stop making excuses for your bigotry roger. 

How long ago was Bloody Sunday? That gets a regular mention round these parts.  Longrunsthefox was talking about the Shankill Butchers on this very thread, a few posts ago. Why have you suddenly exercising a veto on anything older than 30 years?

Having 14 innocent people shot dead by the brits is a little different than a statement in support of something isnt it?

No doubt, but the inference to be drawn from your '30 years? ' remark is that you consider the point raised by Roger to be irrelevant because of the time that has elapsed. If that's not what you meant, then you should say so - then you should address the point he made, rather than avoiding it.

I wouldnt waste my breath arguing logically with bigots like him, or you, because you'll always find something to try and excuse your bigotry with.

Your strength lies in arguing illogically anyway Pints.

[Granted many nationalists are getting very well paid quality jobs, most of whom are travelling to Unionist areas.]

Articles 2 and 3, as I have been saying always subservient within all negotiations and always in the back foot.  Look at the many years of pleading and begging both Martin and Gerry had been doing to get into Stormont and Trimble swiping them away like flies.  They gave me the impression and many other people I’ve even heard mention their disgust at their pleading.  Northern Ireland Act was taken off the table and from the GFA comes the St Andrew’s which entrenches the Unionist veto even more.  Read sections 8 and 9 and it goes on to enforce that only the largest political party from the largest denomination can take the position of First Minister.  Basically it will not mater if there is a nationalist party topping the poles.  It will be a very, very long time before nationalists are in position to even take First Minister. 

What does it matter who is 'First Minister'? OFMDFM is a joint office. McGuinness and Robinson have a different position in name only.

The Danny Blanchflower Stadium in east Belfast was a proposal to replace the Maze stadium, so the GAA were going to lose out.  Where the money comes from doesn’t make it right either.  Remember they use our facilities.

The GAA put forward its proposal for Casement. The GAA were not losing out to anything. And of course it's important where the money comes from! If it's a private developer, they can do what they want - they don't have to accommodate any sport. That's like saying a developer who wants to build a shopping centre has to accommodate TopShop.
And who uses our facilities? What facilities are you talking about?

As regards to your what year am I living in.  All the stats point to places like Strabane, Derry, Clonoe west Belfast and many such nationalist areas, lag a long way behind areas of east Belfast, south Belfast, east cost of Antrim, Carrickfergus, Larne, Malusk Ballymena and north Down. Granted many nationalists are getting very well paid quality jobs, most of whom are travelling to Unionist areas. 

Have you got any of these stats? I'd be interested to see comparisons between the Falls Road and the Village, or Sandy Row and Strabane.

I have friends who live in west of Belfast and they would tell you 20 or more years Adams has been elected in their area, he has done nothing to attract employment for that area. 

And yet the same people continue to vote him in for 20 years? That's democracy for you.

You are right, it's a sick world we live in when people have to travel to their place of work. My wife's friend travels a couple of hours each way to her work in London. Those pesky Unionists did for her too! And what about all those people crossing the border from Mexico to work in the fields of southern USA?   

What my blank post above should have said is that this story smacks of complete bollox and I don't believe it for one minute.

Surely another bishop could ordain him? And if this was an issue, you'd expect it to have been flagged before now!

got a new report Minder:

Played in blustery conditions in Paric MacUilin, Antrim and Limerick served up a fine exhibition of hurling in this senior challenge match today. 
With wind advantage in the opening half Antrim made a bright start and two points from debutant CJ McGourty and points apiece by Cormac Donnelly, PJ O'Connell and Neil McAuley gave the home side a four point cushion.
Boosted by a fine individual goal by Andrew O’Shaughnessy Limerick came back to level but Antrim went ahead again when Neill McManus hit a long range point, followed by a well taken goal and as they continued to dominate they added further points through McGill (2) and Sean Delargy to open up a 1-11 to 1-4 interval lead.
Limerick were dominant after the change of ends and seven point to just one reply by CJ McGourty saw them close to within a point. Antrim replied with points from Karl Stewart (65) and CJ McGourty but two O’Shaughney points and one from over ninety yards by Gavin Moloney saw the visitors take the lead with just five minute left for play.
To their credit Antrim came again and points from Karl Stewart and Paddy McGill put them a point clear, before O’Shaughnessy tied things up for the final time with a point in the seventieth minute.
ANTRIM – Chris O’Connell, Ciaran McGourty, Neil McGarry, Arran Graffin, Neil McAuley, Cormac Donnelly, Eddie McCloskey, PJ O’Connell, Paddy McGill, Dan McKillop, Neill McManus, Sean Delargy, CJ McGourty, Karl Stewart, Joey Scullion.

Hmmm the positive spin in that report has all the hallmarks of either Alastair Campbell or antrim.gaa.ie! I think the Antrim website is the last place you'd go for a subjective report on a match! I've heard Lawrence Smyth cuts out negative reports in the newspapers before the Dr. gets to read them.

I think Seth believes in reincarnation

[you can see GAA tops walking up and down it every single day of the week]

As for your point about GAA tops in Bars in Belshaft city centre, you'll find that most sports clothing is off limits in most pubs in the town, also GAA tops don't have the same baggage as six county soccer tops.

Around the time of the Jerome Quinn article there was a Camogie team (think it might have been QUB) players who sometimes drank in Hunters on the Lisburn Road which has always been a leading if not the main NI supporters meeting place.  They would be in their GAA gear on Wednesday late afternoons before games and the place was full of NI supporters.  Never saw any bother and no one had a problem either way.

Excuse yourself. I have first hand experience of having death threats being made for wearing a GAA top on the Lisburn Road, and I can assure you that there aren't many people who would be willing to walk down Tate's Avenue with a Football top on short of them being offered a sizeable amount of money. Generally, wearing a GAA top on the Lisburn Road is likely to result in serious injury at particular times--the resident's mindset is that it's the sporting wing of the IRA.

What a load of rubbish. I live on the Lisburn Road, you can see GAA tops walking up and down it every single day of the week, and there is not a word said.

I live on the Lisburn Road (Dunluce) and I'd just like to point out that that is simply not true. Anyway I don't want to get into the whole 'is the Lisburn Road safe' argument. The fact that I live there without much bother is proof that it's probably alright.

I'm not trying to be contentious nor am I trying to start arguments. A massive problem for a lot of Unionists, who would like to support the GAA but cannot due to moral reasons, is the naming of certain clubs.

A lot of people I feel, would have no problem playing if the clubs didn't have "contentious" names.

To be honest, I can understand this.

Firstly, I don't wish to gloss over the fact that there is a significant loyalist bigoted community out there who simply hate the GAA and everything about it because, as has been already pointed out, they hate Catholics.

However, I think there is going to come a time when the GAA, in the North especially, will have to have a strong debate within itself about how it can become more "accessible" to the free-thinking, reasonable members of the Unionist community (whom I hope are in the majority).

It is ludicrous to try and link the GAA to the Orange Order but there is no getting away from the fact that the GAA in the North* (I don't wish to leave myself open to stupid statements about Irish Protestants in Wicklow or somewhere) is almost 100% Catholic. This may be for bigoted reasons from some Northern Protestants - hardened attitudes which will probably never change - but it may also be for reasons like the one mentioned above, naming of clubs and grounds after Republican martyrs and heroes.

I can understand why this would be a problem and it is something that should be addressed within the organisation. For the record, I am not advocating that the names of grounds should be changed one way or the other, I personally have not made up my mind on the matter which is one reason why I would really like to see the debate take place.

I await a barage of abuse from some posters for bringing this up.

Great post.

The naming issue is a massive one. I'm a regular attendance at NI games. I'd have issues (and I'd expect you all to have issues as well) if the Kop stand was renamed the Jim Gray Stand, or the Billy Wright North Stand.

I'm all for leaving politics outside of sport.

When did Gray or Wright play for NI?  Maybe I missed that...

I'm sure he could counter that with O'Donovan Rossa, Wolfe Tone, Patrick Sarsfield etc. etc.

I think it's time we looked at how we spend our monies ...

1. Tesco bend over backwards to a few rascists
http://www.herald.ie/national-news/tesco-bans-sports-tops-in-north-after-bag-packers-row-1726063.html
2. They stop selling Irish goods
http://www.independent.ie/breaking-news/national-news/business/tesco-to-remove-irish-brands-from-stores-1727050.html

I for one will vote with my feet

I'm sure they'll miss your trade. Once again no need for another thread. Do you new boys not get enough attention at home?

Nadine Coyle's accent.

The full Derry experience was bad enough but the LA twang makes it extra brutal. I still would though.

I was telephoned today by tesco requesting to forward me a copy of a statement they will be forwarding to the GAA in response to the news in the media this week. They have given me permission to display the statement at armaghgaa.info

You can read a complete copy of the statement here http://armaghgaa.info/forum/f11/tesco-response-st-comgalls-gaelic-athletic-association-discrimination-140/

Doesn't need another thread. One already here and one in general.

Tesco's response to this was inevitable.

St. Brigid's Camogie Club were packing bags in Sainsbury's, Armagh this evening. They were wearing white t shirts with the club name on the back. Dunno if this is normal practice or a reaction to events in Antrim.

I was at the Tyrone Monaghan match a few years back behind the nets.  In walks a portuguese man with a Portugal and Monaghan flag.  He stood in front of me for the whole match.  He seemed to really enjoy the match.   No doubt he'd been to a few matches because he knew all the players.

I was also going through Dungannon last Sept.  I near wet myself laughing.  I seen a black man wearin a Red Tyrone top and a tyrone hat......the hat was tilted to the side like the Americans do.   I thought it was class.

My ones next door to me are from Poland.  Last Sept they had Tyrone flags hanging out there window before I managed to get mine up.

Isn't it amazing to thing that these people can enjoy our culture and sports, but them bigoted bast**ds don't even want to know.

It really makes my blood boil.

You're comparing apples and oranges. Them "bigoted bastards" (incorrectly) see the GAA as the sporting wing of SF/IRA, whereas your average foreigner sees it purely as a sporting organisation. I'm sure they couldn't give a shite about the petty squabbling that passes for politics here.