China Coronavirus

[Angelo]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

[Angelo]

No mention.

Indoor is about 18 times as risky as outdoor, an outdoor funfair may not have been the worst.

We're in a pandemic.
The Chinese Government built a Covid hospital in a couple of weeks.

China squashed the virus in Wuhan and around by moving resources from other parts of China. This works if it is concentrated one place.
Ireland had the Citywest facility and probably still does, but they can't move nurses etc from other parts of the country as things are much the same everywhere.

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

We're getting close to capacity at present in the north with the no of cases peaking, an extra 20/30/40 beds would make a massive difference in how we could deal with the virus. The vast majority of people who get this won't need hospitalisation. It's a state of emergency in healthcare but the efforts that have been made at it from governmental level have been pitiful.

Instead it's easier to blame the people who abided with the first lockdown to buy them time to fix the mess that was of their own doing.

Altnagelvin doubled it's ICU bed capacity from 10 to 20 by the end of April (surge overflow beds) . That's just 1 hospital in the North, I've no idea about the rest. Though you can't make a silk purse etc....
But there's alot of folk out there that need to shoulder some blame too. People have been seen walking the streets of Derry and Strabane who have just recently tested positive. Countless idiots in shops maskless,  staff packing shelves with no masks on, Anne McCloskey and any lunatic who listens to her warped bile etc

People simply don't fear the virus anymore. The first lockdown was driven by images of Bergamo and Madrid.

If we had an adequate health service it would be able to cope with the current levels of Covid.

How long more are people expected to live in these circumstances?

[Milltown Row2]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

Invest? Where are you getting the investment?

[Angelo]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

Invest? Where are you getting the investment?

I'm sorry?

We're in a global pandemic and you don't think we should be investing in healthcare?

[imtommygunn]

There is no magic money tree Angelo. Particularly when you are lining your mates pockets with 12 billion for a barely functional app.

The executive here are begging for money to keep the economy afloat.

[imtommygunn]

https://t.co/rpdg53902R

[Milltown Row2]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

Invest? Where are you getting the investment?

I'm sorry?

We're in a global pandemic and you don't think we should be investing in healthcare?

Ok, I'll ask again, where are you getting the investment?

Was walking through town today at 5pm, such a sad sight.

[restorepride]

No mention.

Indoor is about 18 times as risky as outdoor, an outdoor funfair may not have been the worst.

We're in a pandemic.
The Chinese Government built a Covid hospital in a couple of weeks.

China squashed the virus in Wuhan and around by moving resources from other parts of China. This works if it is concentrated one place.
Ireland had the Citywest facility and probably still does, but they can't move nurses etc from other parts of the country as things are much the same everywhere.

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

We're getting close to capacity at present in the north with the no of cases peaking, an extra 20/30/40 beds would make a massive difference in how we could deal with the virus. The vast majority of people who get this won't need hospitalisation. It's a state of emergency in healthcare but the efforts that have been made at it from governmental level have been pitiful.

Instead it's easier to blame the people who abided with the first lockdown to buy them time to fix the mess that was of their own doing.

Altnagelvin doubled it's ICU bed capacity from 10 to 20 by the end of April (surge overflow beds) . That's just 1 hospital in the North, I've no idea about the rest. Though you can't make a silk purse etc....
But there's alot of folk out there that need to shoulder some blame too. People have been seen walking the streets of Derry and Strabane who have just recently tested positive. Countless idiots in shops maskless,  staff packing shelves with no masks on, Anne McCloskey and any lunatic who listens to her warped bile etc

Totally agree.

[Angelo]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

Invest? Where are you getting the investment?

I'm sorry?

We're in a global pandemic and you don't think we should be investing in healthcare?

Ok, I'll ask again, where are you getting the investment?

Was walking through town today at 5pm, such a sad sight.

The political system in the O6 is a basket case so the assembly has little power.

Same places every other European country are funding the costs of the pandemic.

[armaghniac]

How long more are people expected to live in these circumstances?

Derry should have herd immunity in a few months, if herd immunity exists.
The rest of us will just wait for the vaccine.

[Angelo]

How long more are people expected to live in these circumstances?

Derry should have herd immunity in a few months, if herd immunity exists.
The rest of us will just wait for the vaccine.

We'll be waiting.

[restorepride]

How long more are people expected to live in these circumstances?

Derry should have herd immunity in a few months, if herd immunity exists.
The rest of us will just wait for the vaccine.

Could be more of a cull in Derry. 

[Milltown Row2]

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

The only way you can do it is by cancelling other operations and moving the nurses etc around.
Yet we had several people here implying that lockdowns did not benefit people with other diseases. 

Not true.

The way you can do it is by investing in the health service. There was no will for that.

Invest? Where are you getting the investment?

I'm sorry?

We're in a global pandemic and you don't think we should be investing in healthcare?

Ok, I'll ask again, where are you getting the investment?

Was walking through town today at 5pm, such a sad sight.

The political system in the O6 is a basket case so the assembly has little power.

Same places every other European country are funding the costs of the pandemic.

So you're not telling me? Investment is coming from where?

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

No mention.

Indoor is about 18 times as risky as outdoor, an outdoor funfair may not have been the worst.

We're in a pandemic.
The Chinese Government built a Covid hospital in a couple of weeks.

China squashed the virus in Wuhan and around by moving resources from other parts of China. This works if it is concentrated one place.
Ireland had the Citywest facility and probably still does, but they can't move nurses etc from other parts of the country as things are much the same everywhere.

You said no government could do it a few minutes ago. If there's a will, there's a way.

We're getting close to capacity at present in the north with the no of cases peaking, an extra 20/30/40 beds would make a massive difference in how we could deal with the virus. The vast majority of people who get this won't need hospitalisation. It's a state of emergency in healthcare but the efforts that have been made at it from governmental level have been pitiful.

Instead it's easier to blame the people who abided with the first lockdown to buy them time to fix the mess that was of their own doing.

Altnagelvin doubled it's ICU bed capacity from 10 to 20 by the end of April (surge overflow beds) . That's just 1 hospital in the North, I've no idea about the rest. Though you can't make a silk purse etc....
But there's alot of folk out there that need to shoulder some blame too. People have been seen walking the streets of Derry and Strabane who have just recently tested positive. Countless idiots in shops maskless,  staff packing shelves with no masks on, Anne McCloskey and any lunatic who listens to her warped bile etc

Martin McGuinness brother Willie ramming them into Peadar's and Colm Eastwood s wife ramming them into The Taphouse. The list goes on

[ONeill]

One ICU bed.

2 patients.

Both same age.

P1 is a covid patient on last legs.
P2 is a heart attack patient on last legs.

Who gets it?