Couldn't find a thread on this so just wanted to gauge opinions on it.
I see Derry have announced they're heading off to the sun and we know Kerry/Cork/Dublin are all heading off for a while and Donegal were in Tenerife in December, are there any more doing it?
Seems to be something the top teams are doing for the last while but there's definitely a few eyebrows raised in Derry as to whether the money could be better spent throughout the county.
Personally I think that's what the top teams are doing and having 24hours across a few days with the team gives an opportunity to get a huge amount of tactical work done especially the way the game is now.
Who is paying for it is what it comes down to really I suppose.
Think Armagh started that trend in 02 and any of the lads would say it was beneficial that time.
With the sacrifices and effort county players put in these days I wouldn't begrudge them a few days away, be a great experience- enjoyable and would imagine beneficial tactics wise as well.
Quote from: screenexile on March 06, 2024, 11:20:15 AMCouldn't find a thread on this so just wanted to gauge opinions on it.
I see Derry have announced they're heading off to the sun and we know Kerry/Cork/Dublin are all heading off for a while and Donegal were in Tenerife in December, are there any more doing it?
Seems to be something the top teams are doing for the last while but there's definitely a few eyebrows raised in Derry as to whether the money could be better spent throughout the county.
Personally I think that's what the top teams are doing and having 24hours across a few days with the team gives an opportunity to get a huge amount of tactical work done especially the way the game is now.
Who is paying for it is what it comes down to really I suppose.
Wealthy business men sponsors normally pay. Are Derry on the training camp this week or waiting until after the league? Gone now would suggest they are happy with their lot in regardless to the league, line up against Dublin probably said that already.
I take it mickey harte wont be going as he was dead against foreign training camps when over tyrone!
Quote from: Armagh18 on March 06, 2024, 11:29:09 AMThink Armagh started that trend in 02 and any of the lads would say it was beneficial that time.
With the sacrifices and effort county players put in these days I wouldn't begrudge them a few days away, be a great experience- enjoyable and would imagine beneficial tactics wise as well.
Lol fairly sure Armagh didn't start the trend in 2002...
I recall many inter county teams heading away for training camps in the 1990s . Perhaps not as advertised as it now but it was fairly common .
Quote from: the goal was on on March 06, 2024, 07:19:58 PMI take it mickey harte wont be going as he was dead against foreign training camps when over tyrone!
https://www.sportsjoe.ie/gaa/mickey-harte-speaks-utter-sense-comes-issue-warm-weather-training-camps-122781
Quote from: les Antiques on March 06, 2024, 07:35:25 PMQuote from: Armagh18 on March 06, 2024, 11:29:09 AMThink Armagh started that trend in 02 and any of the lads would say it was beneficial that time.
With the sacrifices and effort county players put in these days I wouldn't begrudge them a few days away, be a great experience- enjoyable and would imagine beneficial tactics wise as well.
Lol fairly sure Armagh didn't start the trend in 2002...
I recall many inter county teams heading away for training camps in the 1990s . Perhaps not as advertised as it now but it was fairly common .
Armagh invented training.
I don't imagine a warm weather training camp would could much more than doing the same thing in Ireland. And there's the plus point of fewer opportunities to bail from some of the camp when they're a flight away from their family / club / work.
That said, it's still a load of old tosh that makes no team more or less likely to fulfil their potential.
Who needs La Manga or Tenerife? What's wrong with taking a squad to somewhere like that pitch on Innisturk? Plenty of privacy there .
Quote from: Gazboy on March 06, 2024, 11:23:44 PMSo where are Derry squad supposed to going on warm weather training camp???
With Mickey Harte probably a week of prayers in Fatima or Lourdes.
Quote from: thewobbler on March 06, 2024, 09:24:59 PMI don't imagine a warm weather training camp would could much more than doing the same thing in Ireland. And there's the plus point of fewer opportunities to bail from some of the camp when they're a flight away from their family / club / work.
That said, it's still a load of old tosh that makes no team more or less likely to fulfil their potential.
I dont know about that. Armagh went from also rans to champions after a trip to La Manga..Yes... they went back to being also rans but it still worked albeit just that one time...
Quote from: rrhf on March 07, 2024, 08:27:12 AMQuote from: thewobbler on March 06, 2024, 09:24:59 PMI don't imagine a warm weather training camp would could much more than doing the same thing in Ireland. And there's the plus point of fewer opportunities to bail from some of the camp when they're a flight away from their family / club / work.
That said, it's still a load of old tosh that makes no team more or less likely to fulfil their potential.
I dont know about that. Armagh went from also rans to champions after a trip to La Manga..Yes... they went back to being also rans but it still worked albeit just that one time...
;D ;D
Quote from: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2024, 11:38:15 PMQuote from: Gazboy on March 06, 2024, 11:23:44 PMSo where are Derry squad supposed to going on warm weather training camp???
With Mickey Harte probably a week of prayers in Fatima or Lourdes.
would you mock a Muslim for their beliefs especially the ones that pray in Croke Park each year or is it just the likes of Harte that's fair game to you?
I'm supportive of it. The Derry lads have shown a ridiculous level of commitment the past 3 or 4 years and deserve some of the benefits you get from being a top team. They are probably taking in £150k in gate receipts at every home game these days so why not spend some of that on the players.
Quote from: Mario on March 07, 2024, 10:19:48 AMI'm supportive of it. The Derry lads have shown a ridiculous level of commitment the past 3 or 4 years and deserve some of the benefits you get from being a top team. They are probably taking in £150k in gate receipts at every home game these days so why not spend some of that on the players.
i dont really see anything wrong with it myself
how they getting time off work
Quote from: Eire90 on March 07, 2024, 11:08:19 AMhow they getting time off work
how does anybody get time off work?
Quote from: Eire90 on March 07, 2024, 11:08:19 AMhow they getting time off work
They book it as annual leave??
Quote from: Mario on March 07, 2024, 10:19:48 AMI'm supportive of it. The Derry lads have shown a ridiculous level of commitment the past 3 or 4 years and deserve some of the benefits you get from being a top team. They are probably taking in £150k in gate receipts at every home game these days so why not spend some of that on the players.
Yeah absolutely. Wouldn't begrudge any county man that given how much they sacrifice.
Quote from: Mario on March 07, 2024, 10:19:48 AMI'm supportive of it. The Derry lads have shown a ridiculous level of commitment the past 3 or 4 years and deserve some of the benefits you get from being a top team. They are probably taking in £150k in gate receipts at every home game these days so why not spend some of that on the players.
It will add to the commitment, a week of hard training than a holiday.
It's not a holiday. It will be training sessions, recovery, video work and with Harte probably lots of Mass.
Warm weather is brilliant for working on shape and set plays. Boys aren't foundered watching. You can set up plays and the likes and do walk throughs. Stuff that is harder to do when it's blowing a gale and maybe you only need 6 or 7 in at anytime and rest are standing watching getting soaked.
Quote from: trailer on March 07, 2024, 01:45:15 PMIt's not a holiday. It will be training sessions, recovery, video work and with Harte probably lots of Mass.
Warm weather is brilliant for working on shape and set plays. Boys aren't foundered watching. You can set up plays and the likes and do walk throughs. Stuff that is harder to do when it's blowing a gale and maybe you only need 6 or 7 in at anytime and rest are standing watching getting soaked.
Be enjoyable experience as well as getting plenty of work done. As you say far better doing set plays etc in the warm weather.
Well on a hot day in clones. It be a bigger benefit training in hotter weather, though giving its Ireland, a training session at home, u get 4 seasons in 1 day.
JP money being put to good use then
Quote from: lurganblue on March 08, 2024, 11:05:10 AMJP money being put to good use then
Even though it went to the clubs?
Quote from: clarshack on March 07, 2024, 09:09:11 AMQuote from: Captain Obvious on March 06, 2024, 11:38:15 PMQuote from: Gazboy on March 06, 2024, 11:23:44 PMSo where are Derry squad supposed to going on warm weather training camp???
With Mickey Harte probably a week of prayers in Fatima or Lourdes.
would you mock a Muslim for their beliefs especially the ones that pray in Croke Park each year or is it just the likes of Harte that's fair game to you?
Mock? a man of his faith would choose one of those places for his travels. Going by his time with Tyrone he little time for these warm weather training camps.
QuoteI couldn't expect My players to take time off work and leave their families for GAA.
"I just try to think on behalf of the players and their families. I think it is a big ask to ask players to down tools, leave work, leave their families and go away to head off for that length of time."
"If we got a big decent weekend, from Friday to Sunday, I would be more than happy with that. I think we have lots of good facilities here and we don't need to go any further than that.
"That's just my opinion and the way I look at it, other people decide to go other places. Obviously, they get value out of that, but I have never asked that of our players over all the years I have been with them and I don't intend to do that either."
Harte loved Carlton house for the old Tyrone getaways.... Up until it changed hands that is.
it never gets really warm in ireland too around the middle of may except the few abnormalities then in summer you get the odd freezing day aswell championship be played in cold weather these days and some championship[ games even finished under lights.
Good old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:46 AMGood old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Aye but can you blame him, like who'd want to go on holidays with a pile of Tyrone ones
Quote from: HiMucker on March 14, 2024, 10:01:24 AMQuote from: tyrone08 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:46 AMGood old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Aye but can you blame him, like who'd want to go on holidays with a pile of Tyrone ones
;D very good. Suprised derry wans could be away from their ma's for a week.
Quote from: tyrone08 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:46 AMGood old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Looks like a Derry county board decision to go than Harte. According to the Irish Examiner they are flying out a week after the league final.
Cork footballers are just back after a week away and Kerry are flying out March 26th for four days and returning the day before the league final.
Quote from: Blowitupref on March 14, 2024, 01:30:44 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:46 AMGood old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Looks like a Derry county board decision to go than Harte. According to the Irish Examiner they are flying out a week after the league final.
Cork footballers are just back after a week away and Kerry are flying out March 26th for four days and returning the day before the league final.
Yeah county board told harte to go! Sure harte never left louth either!
Quote from: the goal was on on March 14, 2024, 01:38:34 PMQuote from: Blowitupref on March 14, 2024, 01:30:44 PMQuote from: tyrone08 on March 14, 2024, 09:58:46 AMGood old mickey continuing with the hypocrisy. Didnt let tyrone go on warm weather training camps for years and only a few years ago he backs a call to have them banned. Takes over Derry and hes off to a warm weather training camp for one week. Couldnt make it up.
Looks like a Derry county board decision to go than Harte. According to the Irish Examiner they are flying out a week after the league final.
Cork footballers are just back after a week away and Kerry are flying out March 26th for four days and returning the day before the league final.
Yeah county board told harte to go! Sure harte never left louth either!
He certainly left Louth, and left them in a far better place than when he took them on.