China Coronavirus

[seafoid]

I think it's basic enough. Reduce contact.
Handwashing. Masks

Lock up the vulnerable? Those with underlying conditions...

Most of the vaccinated in ICU are vulnerable/ with preexisting conditions

[lenny]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

Passports in other words are pointless. Lots of evidence yet these people proposing it. There are lots of sheep.

Modelling has shown that vaccine passports will reduce transmission by 30% plus. That will make a massive difference in terms of reducing pressure on hospitals. Nobody is being forced to get vaccinated but people who choose that option shouldn't be putting other people in danger by going into crowds. It's urgent that we do something quickly, the health service is crying out for it. It's down to 2 choices- vaccine passports or complete lockdown again.

Modelling? You mean guessing, as that is what modelling is. Waterford is real life, factual, undeniable.  Belgium the same. Are you that stupid, if your vaccinated you spread it to. (And to clear this is not a discussion about vaccination as we all seem to agree its protects u from potentially ending up in ICU) Waterford Waterford Waterford. Engage your brain. As the poster said above, reduce your  contact, wash or sanitise your hands etc. Thats the best approach not unfounded passports that evidence shows is irrelevant ffs

Modelling isn't guessing. Most modelling done during the pandemic has been pretty accurate, it's just that governments haven't acted quickly enough. Vaccinated people can spread the virus but they are contagious for way less time as they get rid of the virus much more quickly.

[Eire90]

i said myself vaxx passports will just give people a false sense of security

[seafoid]

i said myself vaxx passports will just give people a false sense of security

Not if they follow the guidelines


https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/1113/1259673-covid-hse/

Keep your contacts low and avoid crowds; Wear a mask correctly; Meet outside if possible; Avoid poorly ventilated indoor spaces; Practice good hand and respiratory hygiene.

[Milltown Row2]

My friends son had to go back into hospital needed oxygen to survive, was telling his mum the cubicles around him were full of people struggling to breathe, this person is mid 30's not vaccinated.

Take a chance lads

[LeoMc]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

Passports in other words are pointless. Lots of evidence yet these people proposing it. There are lots of sheep.

Modelling has shown that vaccine passports will reduce transmission by 30% plus. That will make a massive difference in terms of reducing pressure on hospitals. Nobody is being forced to get vaccinated but people who choose that option shouldn't be putting other people in danger by going into crowds. It's urgent that we do something quickly, the health service is crying out for it. It's down to 2 choices- vaccine passports or complete lockdown again.

Modelling? You mean guessing, as that is what modelling is. Waterford is real life, factual, undeniable.  Belgium the same. Are you that stupid, if your vaccinated you spread it to. (And to clear this is not a discussion about vaccination as we all seem to agree its protects u from potentially ending up in ICU) Waterford Waterford Waterford. Engage your brain. As the poster said above, reduce your  contact, wash or sanitise your hands etc. Thats the best approach not unfounded passports that evidence shows is irrelevant ffs

Modelling isn't guessing. Most modelling done during the pandemic has been pretty accurate, it's just that governments haven't acted quickly enough. Vaccinated people can spread the virus but they are contagious for way less time as they get rid of the virus much more quickly.

Modelling predicted that in the north approximately 15,000 would die. Everyone shit the togs and went for cover when it was nothing remotely close to it.

I have to assume you are on the wind up with that argument.

[seafoid]

Modelling has improved since the start of the pandemic when there was no testing. Every new variant does have different parameters,  however. This is relevant for vaccines which were not tested on Delta.

[trueblue1234]

It's great to have the unvaxxed to blame? They provide a great Red Herring excuse for the massive failure of the Vaccine(s).

Remember the Vaccine efficiency promises and the Scientific Stats back in the beginning of the year?

What were they again? What is the latest figure on Efficiency?

They have fairly crumbled?

The unvaxxed will provide a sort of side-show and keep the Boosters rolling with the promise of Luke O'Neill that they should last 3 years.

Passports in other words are pointless. Lots of evidence yet these people proposing it. There are lots of sheep.

Modelling has shown that vaccine passports will reduce transmission by 30% plus. That will make a massive difference in terms of reducing pressure on hospitals. Nobody is being forced to get vaccinated but people who choose that option shouldn't be putting other people in danger by going into crowds. It's urgent that we do something quickly, the health service is crying out for it. It's down to 2 choices- vaccine passports or complete lockdown again.

Modelling? You mean guessing, as that is what modelling is. Waterford is real life, factual, undeniable.  Belgium the same. Are you that stupid, if your vaccinated you spread it to. (And to clear this is not a discussion about vaccination as we all seem to agree its protects u from potentially ending up in ICU) Waterford Waterford Waterford. Engage your brain. As the poster said above, reduce your  contact, wash or sanitise your hands etc. Thats the best approach not unfounded passports that evidence shows is irrelevant ffs

Modelling isn't guessing. Most modelling done during the pandemic has been pretty accurate, it's just that governments haven't acted quickly enough. Vaccinated people can spread the virus but they are contagious for way less time as they get rid of the virus much more quickly.

Modelling predicted that in the north approximately 15,000 would die. Everyone shit the togs and went for cover when it was nothing remotely close to it.

I have to assume you are on the wind up with that argument.

Shows the disingenuous level of discussion.

[RedHand88]

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/1116/1260207-covid-live-updates-government/

Here we go again...

[Louther]

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/1116/1260207-covid-live-updates-government/

Here we go again...

Hospitals coming under pressure forcing this. We can argue about resources and HSE policies all we want but there is a limited short term fix there bar private sector.

Staff have been moved to vaccines and testing centres, lots of staff close contacts and testing positive. ICU beds filling up all to quick.

The boaster programme now seems to be a re-action rather than something that they should have been getting a head of it. Been told that vast majority of over 70s done and outside this under 50s are only falling due now - outside 6 months since second jab.

Community transmission and cases lot higher than figures. Anyone going to hospital even for day procedures are tested in advance and these are turning up lots of positives with no symptoms, which is good in one way but bad in that contract tracing and community transmission is impossible to trace now, people just don't know where's its coming from and their contacts are big.

[Eire90]

so only the vaccinated are suppose to be in bars but they are closing them early but what the so called great passports

[RedHand88]

so only the vaccinated are suppose to be in bars but they are closing them early but what the so called great passports

Vaccination reduces transmission. Nobody ever claimed it eliminates it.

What would you have the government do given the current circumstances?

[Eire90]

close pubs altogether whats 2 hours going to do

[Eire90]

looks like they might have just killed off nightclubs unless they throw them a few crumbs again to keep them quiet

[naka]

Strange situation
Must people vaccinated but things heading south rapidly
Daughters Christmas party cancelled
Back to working at home
Distraught is an understatement for her, she like many her age have really suffered during the lockdowns for the greater good but she sees no upside
Really worried that whilst government working hard to keep hospitals going
There is a different issue with kids / mental health etc