China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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Eire90

https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40731810.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


People vaccinated against Covid-19 are equally as infectious as the unvaccinated, according to new research.

The new study, published in  Lancet Infectious Diseases and one of the few to date to use detailed infection data from actual household transmission, suggests the peak viral load for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people who are positive for the coronavirus is broadly similar.

The research involved 621 people in the UK with mild Covid infections and found people who had received two doses of a vaccine can nevertheless pass that infection on to both vaccinated and unvaccinated fellow household members.

While infections in vaccinated people cleared more quickly, their viral load, the degree of infectiousness for both cohorts was similar.

Eire90

so going by that we need to shut the pubs vaccines are giving people a false sense of  security

southtyronegael

Glad you are home and ok clarshack, and I hope all the nurses and staff who had to look after you in hospital because you couldn't be bothered getting vaccinated are ok too.

Gmac

Quote from: southtyronegael on October 28, 2021, 10:10:52 PM
Glad you are home and ok clarshack, and I hope all the nurses and staff who had to look after you in hospital because you couldn't be bothered getting vaccinated are ok too.
surely the staff are vaccinated?

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Eire90 on October 28, 2021, 08:09:25 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40731810.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


People vaccinated against Covid-19 are equally as infectious as the unvaccinated, according to new research.

The new study, published in  Lancet Infectious Diseases and one of the few to date to use detailed infection data from actual household transmission, suggests the peak viral load for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people who are positive for the coronavirus is broadly similar.

The research involved 621 people in the UK with mild Covid infections and found people who had received two doses of a vaccine can nevertheless pass that infection on to both vaccinated and unvaccinated fellow household members.

While infections in vaccinated people cleared more quickly, their viral load, the degree of infectiousness for both cohorts was similar.

Professor Lalvani also said the study's results have underlined the importance of booster shots for those whose vaccine immunity has begun to wane with time, with the median length of time since vaccination for those who were infected being 37 days longer than for those who resisted the infection.

"We found that susceptibility to infection increased already within a few months after the second vaccine dose – so those eligible for Covid-19 booster shots should get them promptly," he said.
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

From the Bunker

Quote from: Eire90 on October 28, 2021, 08:09:25 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40731810.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


People vaccinated against Covid-19 are equally as infectious as the unvaccinated, according to new research.

The new study, published in  Lancet Infectious Diseases and one of the few to date to use detailed infection data from actual household transmission, suggests the peak viral load for both vaccinated and unvaccinated people who are positive for the coronavirus is broadly similar.

The research involved 621 people in the UK with mild Covid infections and found people who had received two doses of a vaccine can nevertheless pass that infection on to both vaccinated and unvaccinated fellow household members.

While infections in vaccinated people cleared more quickly, their viral load, the degree of infectiousness for both cohorts was similar.

Well that's that, time to move on with our lives now!

imtommygunn

A crazy alternative view here....

Maybe people should just get...

vaccinated?


imtommygunn

Yeah it kind of shows how different people interpret different bits of information too.

I think the stats say that the vaccine is making a significant difference. It is not the silver bullet everyone had hoped for but it is definitely making a big difference.

Hopefully research continues and it can just keep getting better.

Armagh18

Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2021, 11:08:02 AM
Yeah it kind of shows how different people interpret different bits of information too.

I think the stats say that the vaccine is making a significant difference. It is not the silver bullet everyone had hoped for but it is definitely making a big difference.

Hopefully research continues and it can just keep getting better.
Realistically given the timeframe it was developed in and the amount of variants, the vaccine was never going to be perfect but it's clearly doing a very good job and people should get it. Hopefully in time better vaccines are developed that will give near enough total protection and are combined to be like the flu shot where the elderly/vulnerable can get a booster annually.

imtommygunn


sid waddell

Quote from: Eire90 on October 28, 2021, 08:09:25 PM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40731810.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter


People vaccinated against Covid-19 are equally as infectious as the unvaccinated, according to new research.


That research does not say that.

Classic example of appalling journalism right there.

Eire90

lets see if these employer types who like to preach and act authoritarian on people preach what they talk about and cancel their christmas parties if not they are hypocrites christmas parties are not essential

lenny

Quote from: Armagh18 on October 29, 2021, 11:28:05 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on October 29, 2021, 11:08:02 AM
Yeah it kind of shows how different people interpret different bits of information too.

I think the stats say that the vaccine is making a significant difference. It is not the silver bullet everyone had hoped for but it is definitely making a big difference.

Hopefully research continues and it can just keep getting better.
Realistically given the timeframe it was developed in and the amount of variants, the vaccine was never going to be perfect but it's clearly doing a very good job and people should get it. Hopefully in time better vaccines are developed that will give near enough total protection and are combined to be like the flu shot where the elderly/vulnerable can get a booster annually.

It's not unusual for vaccines to need 3 or 4 jabs. The hepatitis B vaccine requires 3. This vaccine looks to be incredibly successful for 3 doses so the more people that get the booster the better. I hope they roll it out to us 40 plus year olds soon as well.There are new vaccines being developed also which should cover any variants which could emerge.

imtommygunn

I see Citibank in the states now have being vaccinated as being a condition for employment. That may lead to a few court cases.

Yeah also hop for 40+ soon too.

Gmac

Quote from: sid waddell on October 28, 2021, 09:31:44 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 28, 2021, 09:23:17 AM
Quote from: Ed Ricketts on October 28, 2021, 12:58:12 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on October 27, 2021, 01:33:21 PM
Yes it probably will escalate. And it's not difficult to know why. People have had enough, enough of  being lied to, draconian measures that make absolutely no sense, the population screwed over, economy and livelihoods deliberately ruined by inept, spineless politicians.

The state of this.

Machiavellian super villains and bumbling goons. All at the same time.

This the distilled essence of why you are a gobshite. You still haven't figured out what you're angry about. You're just angry.

It's pathetic. And hilarious. And scary, because there's loads of other stupid angry gobshites just like you out there.

No no, you're right. Politicians did/are doing a great job. Their rules make/made perfect sense. Nothing to see here.
More shouting.

Given you've been consistently pro-let it rip I presume you think Donald Trump, Ron De Santis, Boris Johnson, Jair Bolsonaro, Viktor Orban and Narendra Modi have all done great jobs?
the US has more deaths in 21 than 20 with vaccines and joe Biden in charge. But it's someone's else's fault.