China Coronavirus

[Taylor]

Proposal to allow the fully vaccinated eat & drink indoors. The un-clean or lepers in society can stay at home, welcome to the Banana Republic. Blantant & dangerous  discrimination, personally I have no issues getting the vaccine, this however would make me re-consider if it happens.

Do you mean if they bring the rule in that you have to be vaccinated to eat/drink indoors you wont be getting the jabs but that if they dont bring the rule in then you will get the jabs?

While not personally knowing you Rudi if that is your logic it doesnt make much sense to me

I don't believe it's right, everyone or nobody. Tis discrimination against those that have legitimate vaccine concerns.

But how would this decision make you decide to not get the vaccine?

Yet if this decision isnt made you would get the vaccine?

Im not following

Thats perfectly fine Taylor, "if you do not follow". I'm not here to convince you otherwise. We can all make decisions for ourselves. I believe its discrimination & I won't be having it. Its trying to ostracize people from society, I believe thats dangerous. Gay people, lepers, falling women were excluded from society before, its not right or good. An element of solidarity.

As its a discussion board I was trying to understand your point of view.

So you are willing to risk your own health and that of the wider community in order to make a point and show an element of solidarity.

I get it now

How exactly would I be affecting my own health or that of others. I look after myself (always have) I am compliant with all NPET guidelines in respect of Covid. Covid was in our house, my wife & child had it. Despite sleeping in the same bed, watching TV & been roomed up with the 2 for 17 days never managed to get it. You're been theatrical.

Theatrical.

In what way?

[trailer]

MM talking rubbish. Back to my earlier point, no planning and now reactive measures. Talking about herd immunity when this was never mentioned previously and now only considering "vaccine passports" for the vaccinated. As if this stuff only fell out of the sky. And I don't agree with them either.

Instead of looking for alternatives and having these in place, the Irish Gov only plan is to say No. only talk of cases today, none on deaths or hospitalisations. I know one follows the other but case profile and risks far less.

They've lost the plot. It seems since Dr Tony went for a drive in Dublin City centre one evening he been on a mission since to get his own back for the bit of shade that went his way.

Cases to hospitalisation ratio is totally different now that the vaccine is being rolled out. Cases is a shitty metric now that we have the vaccine. The only figures that should matter is hospitalisations and Covid ICU figures.

[Blowitupref]

Communions and Confirmations that was planned for early July are off but weddings with guests of 50 people can proceed. Where is the logic in allowing one over the other?

[Louther]

MM talking rubbish. Back to my earlier point, no planning and now reactive measures. Talking about herd immunity when this was never mentioned previously and now only considering "vaccine passports" for the vaccinated. As if this stuff only fell out of the sky. And I don't agree with them either.

Instead of looking for alternatives and having these in place, the Irish Gov only plan is to say No. only talk of cases today, none on deaths or hospitalisations. I know one follows the other but case profile and risks far less.

They've lost the plot. It seems since Dr Tony went for a drive in Dublin City centre one evening he been on a mission since to get his own back for the bit of shade that went his way.

Cases to hospitalisation ratio is totally different now that the vaccine is being rolled out. Cases is a shitty metric now that we have the vaccine. The only figures that should matter is hospitalisations and Covid ICU figures.

Yes, that was my point. We hear talk that the vaccine reduces hospitalisation and risk of serious illness but has been put into projections or been out to Gov? We know it's a race now between vaccines and spread but genuinely feel like there is little light or hope at this time.

Just one line up after another.

If they going to put a vaccine passport in place they should also have a rapid testing system as well like other countries have where a very recent negative test is accepted.

Maybe they could have tested such things at these trial events they running which where just glorified reduced attendances that had tens of people in space for 1,000s.

[laoislad]

Communions and Confirmations that was planned for early July are off but weddings with guests of 50 people can proceed. Where is the logic in allowing one over the other?

There has been no logic in anything this past year.
Tayto Park full of people at the weekend but only 200 allowed into Semple Stadium 🙄
Every shopping centre in the country is jam packed but you can't have a pint and a bit of grub in a pub.

[Mario]

Communions and Confirmations that was planned for early July are off but weddings with guests of 50 people can proceed. Where is the logic in allowing one over the other?

A wedding is one of the biggest days of your life, many people have been waiting a year to go ahead and have spent a lot of money. The stress it would cause people to call them off at this stage has been deemed greater than the covid benefits.

Holy Communions and confirmations impact a lot more people thus might impact spread more, it's a nice day but people don't really care about them that much to the extent if they are delayed it will impact them severely.

That would be my logic why weddings are more important. That being said I don't think holy communions or confirmations should be off either.

[Louther]

Communions and Confirmations that was planned for early July are off but weddings with guests of 50 people can proceed. Where is the logic in allowing one over the other?

Off for July where people can sit outside and mostly do whatever socialising they wish in the outdoors or go to one of the approved outdoor dining or pubs.

Likely moved to September when all be indoors again.

I know more people involved, round country etc etc but it just doesn't make sense to me at this stage. This is a new restriction imposed it would appear.

[Gmac]

What about opening  a pub or restaurant at 25 or 50% capacity with spread out tables? The rest of the world has been doing this for a year .

[thebigfella]

Just want to point out that in a number of European countries, you cannot dine/drink indoors, go to the cinema etc... unless you are vaccinated or have had a negative covid test. Latvia being one of those countries.

[Louther]

Just want to point out that in a number of European countries, you cannot dine/drink indoors, go to the cinema etc... unless you are vaccinated or have had a negative covid test. Latvia being one of those countries.

Yes, but have planned and adjusted settings for this where it is been applied. They looked at that option long before implementing it and out in place guidance, plans for certs or additional testing.

This today was ruled out previously and ignored. Now they scrambling round trying to figure it out and talking as if it's a new concept. It's amateur hour when people are trying to line with it.

And it's not just about getting a pint, couldn't bother me but they whole outlook. Suddenly schools are back in the spotlight and that months away.

[thebigfella]

Just want to point out that in a number of European countries, you cannot dine/drink indoors, go to the cinema etc... unless you are vaccinated or have had a negative covid test. Latvia being one of those countries.

Yes, but have planned and adjusted settings for this where it is been applied. They looked at that option long before implementing it and out in place guidance, plans for certs or additional testing.

This today was ruled out previously and ignored. Now they scrambling round trying to figure it out and talking as if it's a new concept. It's amateur hour when people are trying to line with it.

And it's not just about getting a pint, couldn't bother me but they whole outlook. Suddenly schools are back in the spotlight and that months away.

Not disputing that, just pointing out

[Armagh18]

Any indication if there's going to be revised numbers allowed to watch outdoor sport this morning??

Did I not read somewhere there's 8,000 allowed into CP for the hurling this weekend?

The North due for a review this week, hopefully there'll be a big increase in the max numbers for games

Play the AI in Armagh

[Captain Obvious]

Germany hasn't lost England in Wembley since 1966!!

I think you might have posted that in the wrong thread.

[armaghniac]

I think you might have posted that in the wrong thread.

Whatever give you that impression 

[imtommygunn]

Any indication if there's going to be revised numbers allowed to watch outdoor sport this morning??

Did I not read somewhere there's 8,000 allowed into CP for the hurling this weekend?

The North due for a review this week, hopefully there'll be a big increase in the max numbers for games

Play the AI in Armagh

It's perfect for casement. Oh wait...