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[smelmoth]

The enormous Tory majority means it's a long game, with lots of swinging and bouncing all the way to 2024.

If the Tories should win in 2024, then by the time the next election is due (2029), there won't have been a Labour government for nearly two decades (i.e. since May 2010).

The real problem for them is not the usual "swing and bounce" etc, or even their current problems in their traditional North of England heartland.

Rather it is that they've lost Scotland (possibly forever?) and are struggling in Wales, both of which have always been critical to their forming a government in the past.

Yeah the SNP have murdered them in scotland. Haven't followed that closely what has gone on in Wales.

There does appear to be a bit more of a squeeze happening with Johnson and his lies at the minute. I imagine it will fizzle out but at least there is something.

Stamer for me is what Angelo says. He's a bit Tony Blair esque and is arguably more Tory than Labour.

Big accusation that. Explain how he is more Tory than Labour?

[Angelo]

Starmer is just a Diet Tory. The British media will have no problem facilitating him when the Tories crumble.

Explain?

You won't see the same media campaign against Starmer as you saw with Corbyn. His policies won't be that different to a Tory leader.

[smelmoth]

Starmer is just a Diet Tory. The British media will have no problem facilitating him when the Tories crumble.

Explain?

You won't see the same media campaign against Starmer as you saw with Corbyn. His policies won't be that different to a Tory leader.

So you evidence that Starmer is "Diet Tory" is the lack of a campaign against him by the right wing media and your assessment of what his policies will be in the future???

Are you absolutely sure that you are being fair here?

[smelmoth]

Is it possible that the absence of a media campaign on the skeletons in Starmer's cupboard is actually due to the absence of skeletons in his cupboard?

The media did try to invent a skeleton in Donkey-gate but he made short work of them on that one.

There will be parts of the media who know there isn't a story in the Jimmy Saville case but I reckon they will trot it out just before the next general election. By the time Starmer puts the record straight the damage will have been done.

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/joe-walsh-tours-cites-ireland-s-travel-restrictions-as-it-ceases-trading-1.4549005

Joe Walsh Tours, one of Ireland's oldest travel agents and tour operators, has ceased trading after 60 years, citing Ireland's travel protocols due to Covid-19 as "the most restrictive in Europe".

Joe Walsh Tours was established in 1961 and was family-owned. It was the largest fully Irish-owned tour operator providing group travel to pilgrimage destinations.

[RadioGAAGAA]

https://www.irishtimes.com/business/transport-and-tourism/joe-walsh-tours-cites-ireland-s-travel-restrictions-as-it-ceases-trading-1.4549005

Joe Walsh Tours, one of Ireland's oldest travel agents and tour operators, has ceased trading after 60 years, citing Ireland's travel protocols due to Covid-19 as "the most restrictive in Europe".

Joe Walsh Tours was established in 1961 and was family-owned. It was the largest fully Irish-owned tour operator providing group travel to pilgrimage destinations.

Aye... because ferrying old people to religious festivals has worked out so well for India.

Some people cannot look beyond the end of their nose.

[smelmoth]

Would the outlook for pilgrimage tours have been great even before Covid?

[RadioGAAGAA]

Would the outlook for pilgrimage tours have been great even before Covid?

Long term?

Nope. They were catering to an autumnal generation.

[Gmac]

Would the outlook for pilgrimage tours have been great even before Covid?

maybe covid pilgrimages could become a thing where masked people go to pray in front of statues of fauci or Scott gottlieb or dr birx or Sanjay Gupta

[Milltown Row2]

That's wrong, Angelo said India had it sussed

No I didn't.

Not unusual to see you conflating things. Covid will spike and Covid will fizzle out periodically that's what happens with it. Once it's there it will spread and lockdowns don't seem to be at all effective in dealing with it. You look at this island, even after months of Lockdowns cases were still in the thousands.

It's certainly serious over there but it's no worse than the situation we had in the north at Christmas in terms of relative numbers, The daily case rate is 1 positive test in 4000 for India at present, that would be the equivalent of 475 positive tests in the north.

The notion that lockdowns work is completely false. How did lockdowns fare on this island?

This hasn't faired well:

"I feel lockdowns are causing more harm than doing good. Countries who haven't had draconian lockdowns since the first wave last year like Sweden, South Africa and India haven't really fared much if any worse at all than countries who did impose draconian lockdowns"

[Angelo]

Starmer is just a Diet Tory. The British media will have no problem facilitating him when the Tories crumble.

Explain?

You won't see the same media campaign against Starmer as you saw with Corbyn. His policies won't be that different to a Tory leader.

So you evidence that Starmer is "Diet Tory" is the lack of a campaign against him by the right wing media and your assessment of what his policies will be in the future???

Are you absolutely sure that you are being fair here?

It's called an opinion.

Have you an opinion that say he isn't?

That's grand.

[Angelo]

Is it possible that the absence of a media campaign on the skeletons in Starmer's cupboard is actually due to the absence of skeletons in his cupboard?

The media did try to invent a skeleton in Donkey-gate but he made short work of them on that one.

There will be parts of the media who know there isn't a story in the Jimmy Saville case but I reckon they will trot it out just before the next general election. By the time Starmer puts the record straight the damage will have been done.

He's an unrepentant zionist, by his own admission.

[smelmoth]

Starmer is just a Diet Tory. The British media will have no problem facilitating him when the Tories crumble.

Explain?

You won't see the same media campaign against Starmer as you saw with Corbyn. His policies won't be that different to a Tory leader.

So you evidence that Starmer is "Diet Tory" is the lack of a campaign against him by the right wing media and your assessment of what his policies will be in the future???

Are you absolutely sure that you are being fair here?

It's called an opinion.

Have you an opinion that say he isn't?

That's grand.

If your opinions aren't based on any evidence you can think of then probably best not to advertise them. Makes you look a bit of thick

[Angelo]

Starmer is just a Diet Tory. The British media will have no problem facilitating him when the Tories crumble.

Explain?

You won't see the same media campaign against Starmer as you saw with Corbyn. His policies won't be that different to a Tory leader.

So you evidence that Starmer is "Diet Tory" is the lack of a campaign against him by the right wing media and your assessment of what his policies will be in the future???

Are you absolutely sure that you are being fair here?

It's called an opinion.

Have you an opinion that say he isn't?

That's grand.

If your opinions aren't based on any evidence you can think of then probably best not to advertise them. Makes you look a bit of thick

Facts are based on evidence.

Opinions are based on thoughts and views. Strange you didn't know that.

You're making yourself look like someone who is letting embittered emotion cloud any intelligent thought here.

Carrying on embarrassing yourself with inane and contrary contributions though.

[smelmoth]

Is it possible that the absence of a media campaign on the skeletons in Starmer's cupboard is actually due to the absence of skeletons in his cupboard?

The media did try to invent a skeleton in Donkey-gate but he made short work of them on that one.

There will be parts of the media who know there isn't a story in the Jimmy Saville case but I reckon they will trot it out just before the next general election. By the time Starmer puts the record straight the damage will have been done.

He's an unrepentant zionist, by his own admission.

Be careful not to cross the line into that racism that you are partial to?

What is the is the difference between Starmer's view on the existence of the state of Israel and that of say the late Tony Benn? What is the difference between their views on the expansion of the state of Israel?

Was Tony Benn an "unrepentant Zionist"

But anyway the point was the absence of a media campaign against Starmer. Surely you accept that there has been an attempt at it and it failed and there is a lack of material to mount a further one?