China Coronavirus

[Milltown Row2]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

[sid waddell]

Almost a full year of Covid. What will we remember about it ?

We'll have to wait for Sky One's blockbuster nostalgia show "I ❤️️ 2020" to find that out

Should be a good one

Looking forward to what various TikTok and YouTube celebs have to say

[sid waddell]

Another anti-vaxxer, just what this thread needs 

[Captain Obvious]

Almost a full year of Covid. What will we remember about it ?

That those at fox news are bigger gobshites than imagined.

[sid waddell]

"We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here... isn't that refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama?" — Kayleigh McEnany, 2/25/20

Obama was a hoor for letting in Coronavirus

[Corkscrew]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

It is reported that nobody was allowed enter and the nuns never left the monastery therefore the monastery must be self sufficient. Not surprising when it comes to monasteries or even convents.

None fell ill before the vaccine, two days afterwards all hell broke loose.

No COVID 19 vaccine has ever been approved, it has only received Emergency Use Authorization, big difference. The FDA have not used the word "Approved", only the spin doctors have. In essence we are all guinea pigs.

As I already stated only Coincidence Theorists would claim without hesitation that the vaccine had nothing to do with the deaths and illnesses.

Regarding you getting COVID 19 after getting the jab, I have no idea as there are no long term trials and not proper short term trials either. In the two months or so since the vaccines came on board people have reacted differently. A friend of mine, 40ish and healthy tested positive 2 weeks after his first jab, got very sick, will not take the second one.   

After 6 weeks the CDC reported over 1,000 deaths and 15k adverse reactions due to the COVID 19 vaccines, again from their own website.  They fudge the numbers as the death totals went down the following week. And remember with VAERS only a minuscule percentage gets reported.

I doubt that there are not that many people in the world that do not suffer from some sort of allergy especially if they get up in age.

[Angelo]

Limited capacity? What's that entail?

We still hand hygiene and we still social distance and we still wear masks, we did it from March through the summer September and beyond. That was a mixture of lockdown no lockdowns and we still have big numbers.

How can we bring the hospital admissions down? The summer drop off came about being lockdown for 3 months when a lot of people were crossing the street to avoid people.

Are looking at the Sweden model as a limited lockdown life?

Are you playing obtuse now? This is pathetic stuff from you but it's all we can accept.

Bars, restaurants, cinemas, sporting events, weddings, funerals have had limited capacities since Covid came in so why are you feigning ignorance now on what that means? It's clear how you want to debase every single thread on this forum into outright silliness and absurdity.

And more lies form you. Masks were not encouraged by governments in the west until I'd say Sept/Oct - they were only made mandatory at that time so once again when faced with the truth you want to throw complete lies and misinformation into the mix.

And once again you revert to Covid tunnel vision. After you casually dismissed the mental health, the wellbeing of children, domestic abuse victims from being considered in the action we take.

This should not be Covid, this should be about society and what benefits society the most, we need to consider all our citizen, their needs, the impacts on society both now and the future. You want to just consider the sole aspect of Covid though and you casually dismiss anything not directly related to it.

So, cause I've low intelligence, are you saying that having those places open, restaurants bars cafes with limited capacity (2 meter rule) is ok?  Is that during that eat out to help out period that drove the cases through the roof? Dead on. Are you favouring the Swedish approach?

And I was back in work in June wearing a mask, and no one was allowed in unless they had one also

Masks were only made mandatory after the summer, around Sept/Oct as far as I remember.

Yes. Those places being allowed open with reasonable restrictions is the way we should have gone.

The cases did not go made during the eat out period, they went mad during the Christmas period. How many cases were tied to pubs and restaurants? Answer me that.

In pubs and restaurants, it's regulated. Owners are responsible for enforcing laws and guidelines exist between distancing and capacity. The problem at Christmas was that people returned home in their droves for various places. I know of people who were flying in from Canada for Christmas. People were visiting their families at Christmas, it was a free for all, household visits was the main cause and that's a big problem.

But the biggest problem were the hospitals and the absolutely shambolic way in which they were set up. Why haven't we had specialists Covid hospitals in operation. Why are we allowing Covid infected patients and staff mix and infect some of the most vulnerable people? It's a failing and governmental and health executive level.

These are all issues.

Sweden didn't lockdown over Christmas? Did Sweden fare out any worse than other European countries that had lockdowns over Christmas? Finland didn't lockdown over Christmas, how did the Finns fare? Covid cases and deaths have dropped rapidly in India, they haven't had lockdowns since last summer.

So where's the correlation of effective lockdowns there.

[sid waddell]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

It is reported that nobody was allowed enter and the nuns never left the monastery therefore the monastery must be self sufficient. Not surprising when it comes to monasteries or even convents.

None fell ill before the vaccine, two days afterwards all hell broke loose.

No COVID 19 vaccine has ever been approved, it has only received Emergency Use Authorization, big difference. The FDA have not used the word "Approved", only the spin doctors have. In essence we are all guinea pigs.

As I already stated only Coincidence Theorists would claim without hesitation that the vaccine had nothing to do with the deaths and illnesses.

Regarding you getting COVID 19 after getting the jab, I have no idea as there are no long term trials and not proper short term trials either. In the two months or so since the vaccines came on board people have reacted differently. A friend of mine, 40ish and healthy tested positive 2 weeks after his first jab, got very sick, will not take the second one.   

After 6 weeks the CDC reported over 1,000 deaths and 15k adverse reactions due to the COVID 19 vaccines, again from their own website.  They fudge the numbers as the death totals went down the following week. And remember with VAERS only a minuscule percentage gets reported.

I doubt that there are not that many people in the world that do not suffer from some sort of allergy especially if they get up in age.

So, to clarify, you're blaming the vaccine for the deaths, yes?

Here's a mad thought, but have you considered Covid might have been to blame?

[Angelo]

Another anti-vaxxer, just what this thread needs 

People who have reservations about a vaccine churned out in a year are not neccessarily anti-vaxxers.

Once again, you are trying to blur the lines and misrepresent people.

People should be allowed make conscienceable decisions on whether or not the vaccine is worthwhile taking.

If you're under 40 and fit and healthy, I don't see an upside. The danger of the virus is so, so minimal to that demograph and there is no hard evidence that suggests the vaccine stops you from contracting and transmitting the virus.

You seem to want to force or coerce people into taking an injection that probably doesn't serve any purpose for u40s, that we have no real evidence of what the impacts and effects of it are. That's totalitarianism.

[Milltown Row2]

I'm not saying the restaurants or pubs created the problem but the spikes were there after the restrictions were relaxed

[Angelo]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

It is reported that nobody was allowed enter and the nuns never left the monastery therefore the monastery must be self sufficient. Not surprising when it comes to monasteries or even convents.

None fell ill before the vaccine, two days afterwards all hell broke loose.

No COVID 19 vaccine has ever been approved, it has only received Emergency Use Authorization, big difference. The FDA have not used the word "Approved", only the spin doctors have. In essence we are all guinea pigs.

As I already stated only Coincidence Theorists would claim without hesitation that the vaccine had nothing to do with the deaths and illnesses.

Regarding you getting COVID 19 after getting the jab, I have no idea as there are no long term trials and not proper short term trials either. In the two months or so since the vaccines came on board people have reacted differently. A friend of mine, 40ish and healthy tested positive 2 weeks after his first jab, got very sick, will not take the second one.   

After 6 weeks the CDC reported over 1,000 deaths and 15k adverse reactions due to the COVID 19 vaccines, again from their own website.  They fudge the numbers as the death totals went down the following week. And remember with VAERS only a minuscule percentage gets reported.

I doubt that there are not that many people in the world that do not suffer from some sort of allergy especially if they get up in age.

So, to clarify, you're blaming the vaccine for the deaths, yes?

Here's a mad thought, but have you considered Covid might have been to blame?

Here's a mad thought.

Maybe it was the vaccine. We have seen it in Norway.

Of course when people die suddenly after the vaccine it's because they were elderly and frail and their health was poor.

But when it's covid, their age and health are of no interest.

Hypocrisy 101. Vintage Sid.

I don't know what it was but it's interesting to see that once again, you won't countenance any argument that goes against what you think. Dogmatic as always. The fact that you want to completely discount a correlating factor to the deaths without any questioning is very telling.

[Corkscrew]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

It is reported that nobody was allowed enter and the nuns never left the monastery therefore the monastery must be self sufficient. Not surprising when it comes to monasteries or even convents.

None fell ill before the vaccine, two days afterwards all hell broke loose.

No COVID 19 vaccine has ever been approved, it has only received Emergency Use Authorization, big difference. The FDA have not used the word "Approved", only the spin doctors have. In essence we are all guinea pigs.

As I already stated only Coincidence Theorists would claim without hesitation that the vaccine had nothing to do with the deaths and illnesses.

Regarding you getting COVID 19 after getting the jab, I have no idea as there are no long term trials and not proper short term trials either. In the two months or so since the vaccines came on board people have reacted differently. A friend of mine, 40ish and healthy tested positive 2 weeks after his first jab, got very sick, will not take the second one.   

After 6 weeks the CDC reported over 1,000 deaths and 15k adverse reactions due to the COVID 19 vaccines, again from their own website.  They fudge the numbers as the death totals went down the following week. And remember with VAERS only a minuscule percentage gets reported.

I doubt that there are not that many people in the world that do not suffer from some sort of allergy especially if they get up in age.

So, to clarify, you're blaming the vaccine for the deaths, yes?

Here's a mad thought, but have you considered Covid might have been to blame?

How did they contact COVID when they were in such a strict lockdown?

[Angelo]

I'm not saying the restaurants or pubs created the problem but the spikes were there after the restrictions were relaxed

Seasonality and people going mad at Christmas.

Household visits were the problem, not pubs and restaurants.

Personally my view is that Christmas is a sham and it was terribly handled by government. We were not allowed to attend funerals, go to weddings, visit family and friends for most of the year so did we thrown that all away for a few days at Christmas. It was terrible messaging from government and pure populism from just about every party on this island. Not one of them had the guts to tell us to continue that sacrifice over Christmas.

[sid waddell]

Another anti-vaxxer, just what this thread needs 

People who have reservations about a vaccine churned out in a year are not neccessarily anti-vaxxers.

Once again, you are trying to blur the lines and misrepresent people.

People should be allowed make conscienceable decisions on whether or not the vaccine is worthwhile taking.

If you're under 40 and fit and healthy, I don't see an upside. The danger of the virus is so, so minimal to that demograph and there is no hard evidence that suggests the vaccine stops you from contracting and transmitting the virus.

You seem to want to force or coerce people into taking an injection that probably doesn't serve any purpose for u40s, that we have no real evidence of what the impacts and effects of it are. That's totalitarianism.

More hysterical nonsense

People should be allowed make informed decisions as to what they consider you to be, and anti-vaxxer troll would fit the vast majority of people's definition of you

[sid waddell]

So have they caught Covid from the vaccine and died within two days of the jab? This experimental vaccine they got was it approved?

Was there any of them suffering with allergies?

Does this vaccine and the rest I suppose, give us Covid? If I was tested after getting the vaccine would I have tested positive?

It is reported that nobody was allowed enter and the nuns never left the monastery therefore the monastery must be self sufficient. Not surprising when it comes to monasteries or even convents.

None fell ill before the vaccine, two days afterwards all hell broke loose.

No COVID 19 vaccine has ever been approved, it has only received Emergency Use Authorization, big difference. The FDA have not used the word "Approved", only the spin doctors have. In essence we are all guinea pigs.

As I already stated only Coincidence Theorists would claim without hesitation that the vaccine had nothing to do with the deaths and illnesses.

Regarding you getting COVID 19 after getting the jab, I have no idea as there are no long term trials and not proper short term trials either. In the two months or so since the vaccines came on board people have reacted differently. A friend of mine, 40ish and healthy tested positive 2 weeks after his first jab, got very sick, will not take the second one.   

After 6 weeks the CDC reported over 1,000 deaths and 15k adverse reactions due to the COVID 19 vaccines, again from their own website.  They fudge the numbers as the death totals went down the following week. And remember with VAERS only a minuscule percentage gets reported.

I doubt that there are not that many people in the world that do not suffer from some sort of allergy especially if they get up in age.

So, to clarify, you're blaming the vaccine for the deaths, yes?

Here's a mad thought, but have you considered Covid might have been to blame?

How did they contact COVID when they were in such a strict lockdown?

Answer the questions I asked you, please

Ireland is in a strict lockdown yet people continue to catch Covid, it's very easy to understand