China Coronavirus

[larryin89]

Return to normality in most of the world by september , sin e .

[sid waddell]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

[Blowitupref]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

Zero covid is a pipe dream here as the government and especially NPHET aren't in favour of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354868661237010435

[sid waddell]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

Zero covid is a pipe dream here as the government and especially NPHET aren't in favour of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354868661237010435

Have the policies the Irish government pursued for the past year been a pipe dream?

How have they worked?

What now, a year later, can we look back on and say, "that was a good decision", "that was long term planning", "I'm glad they did that", "we can now see the long term benefits"?

[Milltown Row2]

They might stick to the plan the next time. All countries would have had a pandemic plan in place, a risk assessment of sorts, but they failed to put in place and stick to the plan.

Maybe they'll do a risk assessment the next time and stick to it

[Blowitupref]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

Zero covid is a pipe dream here as the government and especially NPHET aren't in favour of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354868661237010435

Have the policies the Irish government pursued for the past year been a pipe dream?

How have they worked?

What now, a year later, can we look back on and say, "that was a good decision", "that was long term planning", "I'm glad they did that", "we can now see the long term benefits"?

Many of those questions will be asked of the NPHET members when some sort of normality returns for now a covid zero approach will remain a pipe dream for those calling the shots.

[sid waddell]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

Zero covid is a pipe dream here as the government and especially NPHET aren't in favour of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354868661237010435

Have the policies the Irish government pursued for the past year been a pipe dream?

How have they worked?

What now, a year later, can we look back on and say, "that was a good decision", "that was long term planning", "I'm glad they did that", "we can now see the long term benefits"?

Many of those questions will be asked of the NPHET members when some sort of normality returns for now a covid zero approach will remain a pipe dream for those calling the shots.

That isn't an answer though

Surely people have some sort of opinion on this

[sid waddell]

They might stick to the plan the next time. All countries would have had a pandemic plan in place, a risk assessment of sorts, but they failed to put in place and stick to the plan.

Maybe they'll do a risk assessment the next time and stick to it

They did put plans in place

The question is: did they work?

Is where we are now where we wanted to be a year ago?

The clear answer would have to be: No

[Milltown Row2]

They might stick to the plan the next time. All countries would have had a pandemic plan in place, a risk assessment of sorts, but they failed to put in place and stick to the plan.

Maybe they'll do a risk assessment the next time and stick to it

They did put plans in place

The question is: did they work?

Is where we are now where we wanted to be a year ago?

The clear answer would have to be: No

I read somewhere that the IK had the best procedures for a pandemic, the problem was they didn't implement any of it as planned

[sid waddell]

They might stick to the plan the next time. All countries would have had a pandemic plan in place, a risk assessment of sorts, but they failed to put in place and stick to the plan.

Maybe they'll do a risk assessment the next time and stick to it

They did put plans in place

The question is: did they work?

Is where we are now where we wanted to be a year ago?

The clear answer would have to be: No

I read somewhere that the IK had the best procedures for a pandemic, the problem was they didn't implement any of it as planned

Maybe they did

Maybe they put plans for the wrong pandemic

That's actually what happened

They put plans in place for a flu

[Milltown Row2]

They might stick to the plan the next time. All countries would have had a pandemic plan in place, a risk assessment of sorts, but they failed to put in place and stick to the plan.

Maybe they'll do a risk assessment the next time and stick to it

They did put plans in place

The question is: did they work?

Is where we are now where we wanted to be a year ago?

The clear answer would have to be: No

I read somewhere that the IK had the best procedures for a pandemic, the problem was they didn't implement any of it as planned

Maybe they did

Maybe they put plans for the wrong pandemic

That's actually what happened

They put plans in place for a flu

I'll look for it but I'm convinced they didn't, and followed a completely off the cuff approach

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/01/uk-global-leader-pandemics-coronavirus-covid-19-crisis-britain

They could have followed a flu pandemic, even if they had have done that it may have saved more lives

[Corkscrew]

Confirmation that Level 5 restrictions to remain in place until April 5th.

Interesting to se what the North do.

How will it work with the majority of the North vaccinated and small minority in South vaccinated.

Shut the border? 

I must have missed that, where it this place?

The North of this island - the majority will be vaccinated long before the South of the island.

Then what?

By the 5th of April or have I misread you?

My dad whose 85 got his first jab a month ago isn't due his second till the 1st of April and he's in one of the first cohorts allegedly so his vaccination won't be complete till the 10th of April unless what I've read is wrong!

We should all get it on April 1st.

[Blowitupref]

The Govt is on a bit of a shaky scraw. Polls indicate voters want an end to lockdown but vaccines at the moment are no silver bullet. Ending lockdown at the wrong time might lead to another one.

We could just spend the next few years chasing the rainbow instead.

Zero covid is a pipe dream on this island, public compliance will increasingly fall - in line with the seasons / weather, if they persist.

Governments all over the west have spent the last year chasing the rainbow, in search of a pipe dream

Meanwhile Zero Covid is working very well in lots of countries

Endless lockdown is extremism

Let it rip is far more extreme again

Zero covid is a pipe dream here as the government and especially NPHET aren't in favour of it.

https://mobile.twitter.com/newschambers/status/1354868661237010435

Have the policies the Irish government pursued for the past year been a pipe dream?

How have they worked?

What now, a year later, can we look back on and say, "that was a good decision", "that was long term planning", "I'm glad they did that", "we can now see the long term benefits"?

Many of those questions will be asked of the NPHET members when some sort of normality returns for now a covid zero approach will remain a pipe dream for those calling the shots.

That isn't an answer though

Surely people have some sort of opinion on this

Public opinion reckoned the Christmas, New Year surge was due to government not fully heeding NPHET and going by latest Times/MRBI opinion poll 68% want to go back to normal once elderly/vulnerable are vaccinated and only 30% support for Zero Covid.

Over the last year the government have made the majority of decisions on the strong advice of NPHET and if they latter felt a zero covid approach was a viable option for this island with two jurisdictions I have no doubt they would have strongly considered it.

[Smurfy123]

So Auckland once again are back into full lockdown
Someone tested positive and was roaming around for a week. Works in the airport too
Tested negative 3 times then tested positive yesterday
Also Israel have now opened up. The first outside concert happened yesterday only those who have been vaccinated can go. Imagine being 20 years of age in Israel. Told for a year to lockdown to help the elderly and now they open up the elderly let rattle away whilst you have to wait your turn to be vaccinated.
The deaths are plummeting all over the uk.
Hospital admissions plummeting
Admission to hospital this past 2 weeks in the north 59
One day in January 109 were admitted in 1 day!
Vaccines are clearly working.
When do we start asking serious questions.
When do we start to open up