China Coronavirus

[Milltown Row2]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

[imtommygunn]

While I think the whole thing has been handled poorly up here there are deeper things going on than just that for the spread up here. Why it is a bigger issue in poorer areas needs to be looked at.

Also when you think about it some of those hospitals have a massive catchment area. (Moreso the ones outside Belfast)

We are well oversubscribed with hospitals for a population of 1.8 million, it is just each facility has been run into the ground by Stormont and Westminster

Yeah that's my feeling too. The whole thing was f**ked anyway. This has just made it more f**ked.

The NHS under a tory government was/is always going to be run into the ground. Those 3 years have come back to haunt us here too. Those 3 years where significant numbers of people were being paid to do a job they weren't doing.

[Rossfan]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

The 26 Cos hasn't got a border with either of them.
If the 26 had the same rate of infection per 100,000 as the 6 has we'd be in an April type closedown.
But the DUP forced everything to open for a week and Foster is still blathering about not closing things.
Nobody's fkn gloating, just wishing ye lot would cop on a bit.

[maddog]

While I think the whole thing has been handled poorly up here there are deeper things going on than just that for the spread up here. Why it is a bigger issue in poorer areas needs to be looked at.

Also when you think about it some of those hospitals have a massive catchment area. (Moreso the ones outside Belfast)

We are well oversubscribed with hospitals for a population of 1.8 million, it is just each facility has been run into the ground by Stormont and Westminster

Yeah that's my feeling too. The whole thing was f**ked anyway. This has just made it more f**ked.

The NHS under a tory government was/is always going to be run into the ground. Those 3 years have come back to haunt us here too. Those 3 years where significant numbers of people were being paid to do a job they weren't doing.

Tory policy - underfund it, demonstrate that it is broken and not fit for purpose. Privatise

[imtommygunn]

Yeah - I would be very concerned that is what is at play here. The media are buying right into it too.

[Milltown Row2]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

The 26 Cos hasn't got a border with either of them.
If the 26 had the same rate of infection per 100,000 as the 6 has we'd be in an April type closedown.
But the DUP forced everything to open for a week and Foster is still blathering about not closing things.
Nobody's fkn gloating, just wishing ye lot would cop on a bit.

Its not like for like, have a bit of wit about ya

[Rossfan]

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[Milltown Row2]

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We could compare figures across the world which have land borders, and show completely different results, in cases of Covid and which country was higher death rates, and which country has more money ffs, you and sefoid continually use us in the north as some sort of gauge ..

[GetOverTheBar]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

The 26 Cos hasn't got a border with either of them.
If the 26 had the same rate of infection per 100,000 as the 6 has we'd be in an April type closedown.
But the DUP forced everything to open for a week and Foster is still blathering about not closing things.
Nobody's fkn gloating, just wishing ye lot would cop on a bit.

The Health Minister is blaming conspiracy theorists sure. Don't be fooled into thinking its all the DUP, that's the easy way out and the open goal. Whilst they are with flaw, obviously. The whole thing is being shown for what it is. They are beat when they don't have the usual pre scripted back and forth to keep the gravy train flowing.

[seafoid]

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We could compare figures across the world which have land borders, and show completely different results, in cases of Covid and which country was higher death rates, and which country has more money ffs, you and sefoid continually use us in the north as some sort of gauge ..

The North is dysfunctional on the eve of its 100th birthday.
Diane Dodds needs 70m to plug a hole in her department's budget left by the departure from the EU.
Why did she support Brexit ?

Brexit + Covid are putting huge stress on the Executive.

[imtommygunn]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

The 26 Cos hasn't got a border with either of them.
If the 26 had the same rate of infection per 100,000 as the 6 has we'd be in an April type closedown.
But the DUP forced everything to open for a week and Foster is still blathering about not closing things.
Nobody's fkn gloating, just wishing ye lot would cop on a bit.

The Health Minister is blaming conspiracy theorists sure. Don't be fooled into thinking its all the DUP, that's the easy way out and the open goal. Whilst they are with flaw, obviously. The whole thing is being shown for what it is. They are beat when they don't have the usual pre scripted back and forth to keep the gravy train flowing.

Exactly. I despise the DUP but this is not all on them. They are a bunch of bigoted, money grabbing hypocrites however the influence they had was on one week of this. While that didn't help there has been a lot more to it.

[seafoid]

Facts is facts

Its a be skewed no? lets go like for like. maybe if we looked at a country with 4 million and similar size then that would be a better fact?

Use Denmark or Finland as a measure

The 26 Cos hasn't got a border with either of them.
If the 26 had the same rate of infection per 100,000 as the 6 has we'd be in an April type closedown.
But the DUP forced everything to open for a week and Foster is still blathering about not closing things.
Nobody's fkn gloating, just wishing ye lot would cop on a bit.

The Executive are going to have another shutdown 3 days after Christmas

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus/ni-shutdown-due-three-days-after-christmas-39872774.html

[GetOverTheBar]

Hardly much point doing it 3 days after Xmas.

If the problem is as bad as the Health Minister continually says, it should be done now. No ifs or buts.

Same annoying nonsense. Only drives people away from the cause.

[Milltown Row2]

Hardly much point doing it 3 days after Xmas.

If the problem is as bad as the Health Minister continually says, it should be done now. No ifs or buts.

Same annoying nonsense. Only drives people away from the cause.

Pointless having the shut downs, no one is actually doing anything about it, people are continually breaking the rules and schools are still open...

Kids are coming home from school and heading out with their mates, why should parents stop them if they are allowed to see the same kids in school?!!

But that's right, covid actually knows who's who and won't infect them, silly of me...

[GetOverTheBar]

Speaking of the schools, this one slipped out last night without much fanfare.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/education/covid-19-all-pupils-at-kerry-school-told-to-remain-at-home-after-17-confirmed-cases-1.4438844