China Coronavirus

[Hound]

Absolutely ridiculous. Hospitality businesses have been shafted here. Probably the most controlled environment outside of a hospital. What you'll get now is just more house parties and domestic social gatherings which are virtually impossible to police on a wide scale.

That's why the off licenses should close. To stop drinking/parties at home.

If they said offies were closing on Friday for 4 weeks the queues would be forming now.

Give them no notice then. Just announce it at 7am with immediate effect.

Benny do you take a drink?

Why does that matter?

If off licenses are spreading the virus, close them. If schools are spreading the virus, close them.

What % of people who buy alcohol in off licences use that alcohol to host / attend parties?

You seem to think it is way higher than it actually is!

[Franko]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

They do realise.

That's a leap.

Some people have never experienced a proper flu and think that it equates to a head cold or chest infection and would equate those ailments to a flu.

What's a proper flu?  Is there a proper Covid?

[Rossfan]

1217 cases in the past 24hrs in the occupied 6.

Scary.

Equivalent to about 3,200 here.
If we got a figure like that we'd be at level 5 tonight!

[Franko]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

There's no way that anyone with enough intelligence to operate a computer should need this explained.

[armaghniac]

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

The problem, as stated above, is that in colloquial speech the term flu is used for harmless enough viruses that are not flu. Real flu is indeed dangerous, but still much less dangerous than Covid, unless you are below 30. Note, that this is a log scale.

[Angelo]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

Is it?

[Franko]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

Is it?

Yes.

[Angelo]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

Is it?

Yes.

How would you know?

[Angelo]

Other half is positive, she's 27, no underlying conditions, doesnt smoke etc.
Symptoms started Monday morning, day 3 now and shes not fit to get out of bed.
This is something you want to avoid if you can help it.

That is how it was for me. The tiredness did improve daily, first 5 days I had to go back to bed around lunchtime each day and it would just come on very suddenly. Hopefully she is ok and if it follows my pattern it does improve significantly after 7 days

Have you had a flu (a proper one rather than your standard, head cold/chest infection) before and how do the symptoms compare?

I have had a proper flu before, she hasn't. From what I remember I couldn't eat with the flu, whereas she is eating although but alot.
Its similar I would say,  but then I know of a late 40s case with no underlying conditions who is in ICU, so it's hard to predict.

There's a lot of people who will get tetchy about comparing it to a flu but I don't think they realise that a flu can have fatal consequences even to fit and healthy people, Christopher Colhoun being a prime recent example of how it can impact a fit and healthy young man.

People do die from the flu.
However, Covid is much worse than the flu, in general.
That's probably why people get tetchy about the comparison.

Is it?

Quite obviously.

How do you know that?

Some amount of ignorance being passed off here.

[PadraicHenryPearse]

 

[Angelo]

It's amazing the way a few posters on a GAA messageboard are able to conclude that a novel virus that science are still struggling to work out 10 months on, is conclusively more severe than influenza.

Maybe we should fly them out to WHO to help solve it.

[Rossfan]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40063940.html

[marty34]

Was there a scheme mentioned a few weeks ago to help businesses get back on their feet again?

A sort of voucher type scheme but the details were sketchy....if I can remember.

[Angelo]

https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/commentanalysis/arid-40063940.html

Not uncommon with flu either.

https://www.health.com/condition/cold-flu-sinus/flu-long-term-effects

[armaghniac]

It's amazing the way a few posters on a GAA messageboard are able to conclude that a novel virus that science are still struggling to work out 10 months on, is conclusively more severe than influenza.

We didn't "work it out", I posted a summary of multiple peer review scientific studies.
What evidence have you provided.