China Coronavirus

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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: seafoid on October 07, 2020, 07:01:43 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on October 07, 2020, 05:44:19 PM
Over 800 cases in the North today.
Time to lock ye down (or up)
What's the nationalist/unionist split ?

By looks of it 80% nationalist in fairness

Farrandeelin

Apparently the government leaked the briefing on Sunday night. They're truly the most pathetic shower of *insert expletive here*. Playing political football in the middle of a pandemic, MM smirking at MHR. f**k them, f**k the whole lot of them. Bring in level 5.
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Fear Bun Na Sceilpe

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 07, 2020, 07:52:40 PM
Apparently the government leaked the briefing on Sunday night. They're truly the most pathetic shower of *insert expletive here*. Playing political football in the middle of a pandemic, MM smirking at MHR. f**k them, f**k the whole lot of them. Bring in level 5.

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imtommygunn

Quote from: ballinaman on October 07, 2020, 07:36:17 PM
Quote from: Minder on October 07, 2020, 06:18:34 PM
So no surprise that half of clusters identified in the North traced to hospitality settings
Which is frustrating that there isn't enough focus on the K number and environments which super spreading can occur...university accommodation halls, care homes ...
Seasonal variation in terms of a novel virus would help explain the rise in cases also...

The university accommodation thing is baffling. How did anyone think it would be a good idea bunging all these young people together right now?

Angelo

The second wave is a lot more prevalent than the first but the death rates are falling hugely.

I didn't know anyone who had it the time of the first wave but I've heard of plenty of people locally or who I'd know who have either tested positive themselves or being a close contact to a positive case but I haven't heard of anyone being really bad with it, needing hospitalisation or the like.

The big question marks lie around how asymptomatic the disease can be and how immunity works and so far science has not been able to address this.

I think this second wave which we are going through now and will probably continue through Christmas is much more rampant but the virus just doesn't seem to have much of an impact on you if you are young, fit and in good health and that seems to be the demographic that are currently contracting it.
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trileacman

Quote from: macdanger2 on October 07, 2020, 09:59:58 AM
Quote from: trileacman on October 06, 2020, 11:27:03 PM
For anyone interested in the data the excess deaths info is very interesting. Much more informative than the Covid deaths on worldometer.

Where's that available?

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid
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macdanger2

Quote from: trileacman on October 07, 2020, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 07, 2020, 09:59:58 AM
Quote from: trileacman on October 06, 2020, 11:27:03 PM
For anyone interested in the data the excess deaths info is very interesting. Much more informative than the Covid deaths on worldometer.

Where's that available?

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Cheers, ROI not on it but interesting data all the same

macdanger2

Quote from: Farrandeelin on October 07, 2020, 07:52:40 PM
Apparently the government leaked the briefing on Sunday night.

Where's this reported?

armaghniac

Quote from: macdanger2 on October 07, 2020, 08:51:44 PM
Quote from: trileacman on October 07, 2020, 08:40:29 PM
Quote from: macdanger2 on October 07, 2020, 09:59:58 AM
Quote from: trileacman on October 06, 2020, 11:27:03 PM
For anyone interested in the data the excess deaths info is very interesting. Much more informative than the Covid deaths on worldometer.

Where's that available?

https://ourworldindata.org/excess-mortality-covid

Cheers, ROI not on it but interesting data all the same

ROI excess death was very modest in March/April. The Financial Times and New York Times sites have some good data, FT had NI, Scotland etc also.
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Rudi

Dr Martin Feeley, interesting individual and not towing the party line so to speak. Honest assessment taking all knowns and variables into account. Fair play to Rte and other news agents for finally given air time for alternative views.
Know 6 people who have had Covid, 4 describe it as a minor cold, 2 others didn't know they had until they got tested after close contact with someone who had it.

Angelo

Quote from: Rudi on October 07, 2020, 10:29:41 PM
Dr Martin Feeley, interesting individual and not towing the party line so to speak. Honest assessment taking all knowns and variables into account. Fair play to Rte and other news agents for finally given air time for alternative views.
Know 6 people who have had Covid, 4 describe it as a minor cold, 2 others didn't know they had until they got tested after close contact with someone who had it.

This is it.

There's a lot of scaremongering going out and the consequences of it to young, fit and healthy people.

Of course someone could get a bad dose of it, could end up hospitalised or worse, could find the effects of take some time to shake off entirely but the same could be said of a flu. If you've had a bad flu in the past you know that it can leave you floored for a week or two and take a few months to get back 100% again, I've known people who were fit and healthy who didn't look after a flu and ended up with pneumonia, I'm sure we all do.

There seems to be a major case from the media to push forward some young person who got it and had a rough dose of it and say this can happen to anyone which is pure scaremongering. It can happen but the chances are so, so remote of that happening if you have no underlying health conditions and are fit and healthy.

It clearly is a major global issue but you have so much mixed messaging from governments, telling us that we need to learn to live with the virus and then calls or moves to bring in lockdowns as a result.

The real problem and it seems to be probably a bigger issue down south is that the government are trying to shift the blame on to the people because of poor planning and a dysfunctional health service that is unable to cope with a notable rise in transmission.

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Rossfan

Rudi's 6 mates prove that Covid isn't worth fretting over and that the WHO, 170 or more Governments and National Health bodies are all wrong.
Those people who have got ongoing problems from Covid are probably imagining it while those who died would have died anyway and aren't worth losing sleep over.
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thebigfella

Quote from: Rossfan on October 08, 2020, 12:03:46 AM
Rudi's 6 mates prove that Covid isn't worth fretting over and that the WHO, 170 or more Governments and National Health bodies are all wrong.
Those people who have got ongoing problems from Covid are probably imagining it while those who died would have died anyway and aren't worth losing sleep over.

Is one of them Donald  ;D

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Quote from: Rudi on October 07, 2020, 10:29:41 PM
Dr Martin Feeley, interesting individual and not towing the party line so to speak. Honest assessment taking all knowns and variables into account. Fair play to Rte and other news agents for finally given air time for alternative views.
Know 6 people who have had Covid, 4 describe it as a minor cold, 2 others didn't know they had until they got tested after close contact with someone who had it.

I know about 10 who have had it and 3 are dead.

But neither of our anecdotal opinions matter a damn