China Coronavirus

[imtommygunn]

A vaccine will have to come but it'll be slow to a) get there and b) rollout after that. It'll be management for a few years yet by the look of it.

It's hard to see how bars and restaurants then the arts and things like that fully recover from this. If you're an actor in the theatres or you're a musician who gigs locally for a living then you're in big trouble. You'll need to change careers.

Been to a pub once. It was actually good enough craic all things considered.(beer garden)

[Captain Obvious]

A daily high for NI with 424 cases of Covid-19. One further death.

[GetOverTheBar]

A vaccine will have to come but it'll be slow to a) get there and b) rollout after that. It'll be management for a few years yet by the look of it.

It's hard to see how bars and restaurants then the arts and things like that fully recover from this. If you're an actor in the theatres or you're a musician who gigs locally for a living then you're in big trouble. You'll need to change careers.

Been to a pub once. It was actually good enough craic all things considered.(beer garden)

I'd hazard a guess you or I will never see the vaccine.

[imtommygunn]

Yeah while it is hard to predict anything here I wouldn't bet against that either. There will be a hierarchy and (relatively) young and fit enough will be very much back of the queue.

Everything ramping up again it seems

[Milltown Row2]

Are the figures broken down by age as well as area?

[Jeepers Creepers]

Are the figures broken down by age as well as area?

https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/health/doh-db-300920.pdf

[GetOverTheBar]

Are the figures broken down by age as well as area?

https://www.health-ni.gov.uk/sites/default/files/publications/health/doh-db-300920.pdf

Individuals tested now v individuals tested in April/May would go some way to explaining why numbers are rising again.

[Jeepers Creepers]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/30/germans-embrace-fresh-air-to-ward-off-coronavirus

[armaghniac]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/30/germans-embrace-fresh-air-to-ward-off-coronavirus

Entirely new buildings regulations are needed after this to ensure proper ventilation in buildings and heat exchangers and the like.

[five points]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/30/germans-embrace-fresh-air-to-ward-off-coronavirus

Entirely new buildings regulations are needed after this to ensure proper ventilation in buildings and heat exchangers and the like.

When we built our house we asked our architect about ventilation. "Hard to beat opening a window" says he.

He wasn't wrong. Yet in an awful lot of modern buildings you can't open a window if you want to.

[Milltown Row2]

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/sep/30/germans-embrace-fresh-air-to-ward-off-coronavirus

Entirely new buildings regulations are needed after this to ensure proper ventilation in buildings and heat exchangers and the like.

When we built our house we asked our architect about ventilation. "Hard to beat opening a window" says he.

He wasn't wrong. Yet in an awful lot of modern buildings you can't open a window if you want to.

Health and safety would say you're giving an opportunity for someone to fall out the window or be pushed!

[Milltown Row2]

So stay away from women aged between 20-39 .... never been a problem 

[highorlow]

There has been nothing at all to suggest Sweden are remotely near herd immunity, and everything we know suggests they are way off it

Contrary to the fake narrative pushed by those who are praising Sweden for cynical right-wing political reasons, cases are rapidly going up there the same as everywhere else in Europe

Source?

They seem to have lower cases than us despite almost double the population? Maybe I'm wrong?

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/sweden/

[trileacman]

This source says 260k people in Sweden have long Covid

Whatever the truth of the numbers, you can't just write it off

https://aktuelltfokus.se/novus-kvarts-miljon-svenskar-langtidssjuka-i-covid-19/

The main reason for why Sweden's policy was wrong was that it was immoral, they sacrificed a lot of lives that could have been saved

Also they didn't protect their economy and are nowhere near herd immunity

Only 90k people have tested positive for Covid in Sweden. To suggest 260k people there have long Covid is ridiculous.

Sweden protected their economy by about twice as much as Spain, France and the UK. Their economy is forecast to shrink by about as half as much as those mentioned. So you're wrong their. In my opinion they are a lot nearer to herd immunity than other countries and will reach it sooner than other nations who continue to drip feed their populations to Covid infection.

[lenny]

This source says 260k people in Sweden have long Covid

Whatever the truth of the numbers, you can't just write it off

https://aktuelltfokus.se/novus-kvarts-miljon-svenskar-langtidssjuka-i-covid-19/

The main reason for why Sweden's policy was wrong was that it was immoral, they sacrificed a lot of lives that could have been saved

Also they didn't protect their economy and are nowhere near herd immunity

Only 90k people have tested positive for Covid in Sweden. To suggest 260k people there have long Covid is ridiculous.

Sweden protected their economy by about twice as much as Spain, France and the UK. Their economy is forecast to shrink by about as half as much as those mentioned. So you're wrong their. In my opinion they are a lot nearer to herd immunity than other countries and will reach it sooner than other nations who continue to drip feed their populations to Covid infection.

Sweden had 10 times the death rate of neighbouring Finland and Finlands economy has stood up just as well as Swedens. You need to compare countries with like for like comparisons.