China Coronavirus

Started by lurganblue, January 23, 2020, 09:52:32 AM

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imtommygunn

Lol. Ah from that guy haha.

Cheers.

GetOverTheBar

Didn't Germany just release their tracing app in the past few days? You'd need to be a bit sceptical of any kind of R rise phenomenon reported by anyone in the media taking into account their own agendas for these type of things.

This R rate is thrown around too handy, nobody actually knows what it is....its guess work. The East Asians probably are the only ones would really have anything close to accurate owing to their experience in the past and commitment to the policy.

GetOverTheBar

Those pictures from Bournemouth beach are not good viewing. The English at times really don't help themselves.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on June 25, 2020, 04:15:38 PM
Those pictures from Bournemouth beach are not good viewing. The English at times really don't help themselves.

The English has really shown themselves up during this virus. Yes they have no respect for Boris and his government however they didn't have to act like idiots also.

imtommygunn

Quote from: GetOverTheBar on June 25, 2020, 03:46:37 PM
Didn't Germany just release their tracing app in the past few days? You'd need to be a bit sceptical of any kind of R rise phenomenon reported by anyone in the media taking into account their own agendas for these type of things.

This R rate is thrown around too handy, nobody actually knows what it is....its guess work. The East Asians probably are the only ones would really have anything close to accurate owing to their experience in the past and commitment to the policy.

The R rate is something I wouldn't be too fussed on either. (not that I am an expert). Surely it's based on a sample set at a sample time and isn't entirely accurate? Also surely if they now say R rate of 2.79 or whatever it was that was 2 weeks ago as well?

armaghniac

Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 03:12:55 PM
Trump tells us all is well in the US, the "plague" is "going away" and the upsurge in numbers is simply down to more testing.

Without more testing, apparently, all those ICUs about to hit 100% full in various parts of the country would still be well below capacity.

Far be it for me to defend Trump, but when things were really bad in both Europe and NE USA, around the end of March, a lot of people were not tested. That is one reason why deaths are less now in the US although cases are similar.
But of course testing is absolutely required to track down  the bug.

The cases in Arizona show that heat alone does not kill it. However, while an Irish type summer might encourage you to get out, today is lovely, presumably people in Arizona stay in and use air con, which could circulate the virus, most of the time.

If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Captain Obvious

The 2 metre social distancing rule in Northern Ireland to be reduced to 1 metre.

trailer

Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2020, 05:44:41 PM
The 2 metre social distancing rule in Northern Ireland to be reduced to 1 metre.

Good news. I would urge that vulnerable people still should shield. As we all know those under 70 are at very little risk and we should be allowed to go about our daily lives unaffected.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: trailer on June 25, 2020, 06:05:24 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on June 25, 2020, 05:44:41 PM
The 2 metre social distancing rule in Northern Ireland to be reduced to 1 metre.

Good news. I would urge that vulnerable people still should shield. As we all know those under 70 are at very little risk and we should be allowed to go about our daily lives unaffected.

Except for those under 70 with underlying conditions like, asthma, COPD, obesity, heart conditions diabetes and so on.

Plus those pesky ones that were under 70 and died !
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

J70

Quote from: armaghniac on June 25, 2020, 05:35:04 PM
Quote from: J70 on June 25, 2020, 03:12:55 PM
Trump tells us all is well in the US, the "plague" is "going away" and the upsurge in numbers is simply down to more testing.

Without more testing, apparently, all those ICUs about to hit 100% full in various parts of the country would still be well below capacity.

Far be it for me to defend Trump, but when things were really bad in both Europe and NE USA, around the end of March, a lot of people were not tested. That is one reason why deaths are less now in the US although cases are similar.
But of course testing is absolutely required to track down  the bug.

The cases in Arizona show that heat alone does not kill it. However, while an Irish type summer might encourage you to get out, today is lovely, presumably people in Arizona stay in and use air con, which could circulate the virus, most of the time.

The proportion of positive tests is on the increase in the US as a whole after an initial decrease when testing was ramped up. And that is including in the data the northeast where the proportion has decreased dramatically and continues to do so.

There are multiple states and cities where ICU beds are getting close to full capacity. That was not the case previously.

armaghniac

Florida with +8,942 cases. That is more than were reported in Spain at their peak, but Spain has twice the population.
If you have the 10%+ of people getting hospitalised, then 900 more people hitting hospitals in one day. 20% of those would need ICU type facilities.
If at first you don't succeed, then goto Plan B

Franko

Quote from: armaghniac on June 26, 2020, 06:54:33 PM
Florida with +8,942 cases. That is more than were reported in Spain at their peak, but Spain has twice the population.
If you have the 10%+ of people getting hospitalised, then 900 more people hitting hospitals in one day. 20% of those would need ICU type facilities.

Ah give over.  We've crushed it.  You just want more of the furlong.  Sure 103% of the people who died were over 70.

Rossfan

6 more deaths and 23 new cases reported in the 26 today.
CMO says he's worried by the number of young people getting the disease these days
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

Smurfy123

The south of Ireland getting an easing ride. Low number if cases this weeks and deaths still up around 5 per day. What a mess they are making of this

Sportacus

We live on an island.  Numbers are down to bare minimum.  Overseas travel is now the risk.  It will only spike again because people go overseas and bring it back, or visitors bring it onto the island.  Track and Trace now crucial.