China Coronavirus

[trueblue1234]

Where did I say heard immunity?
All mass gatherings to run at 40% capacity where a 1 metre distance can be kept
Sure what's the difference in doing all this now and back 2 months ago?
Same thing lads
Only difference is the economy is gone
The single most important thing in all this believe it or not is keeping your distance
Whether you admit that or not
It's simple but very affective
Like the marches in Belfast 12 days ago and no comeback from it
Passing this virus more than likely needs very very close contact with one another.

Wanting 50% + of the population to get the virus is Herd Immunity. If 50% people had got it in March/April you could be looking at a death toll in NI of between 10-20K. Lock down ensured people kept their distance.

If we had shut the airports early then yes we could have looked at a less severe lockdown and focused on contact tracing. That ship sailed. But now we are in a position that the numbers are small enough that we should be able to contact trace and slowly re-open.

[Smurfy123]

Exactly
The word could
Sure we have been told about a big spike after Easter VHE Beaches and no sign
4% icu beds being now used in Italy and they have reopened 6 weeks
Keep scaremongering
You still haven't answered regarding America .
Lots of talk about more cases and this massive rise but hospital administrations are dropping dramatically weeks on week.

[trueblue1234]

Exactly
The word could
Sure we have been told about a big spike after Easter VHE Beaches and no sign
4% icu beds being now used in Italy and they have reopened 6 weeks
Keep scaremongering
You still haven't answered regarding America .
Lots of talk about more cases and this massive rise but hospital administrations are dropping dramatically weeks on week.

Right, I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole.

[HiMucker]

Exactly
The word could
Sure we have been told about a big spike after Easter VHE Beaches and no sign
4% icu beds being now used in Italy and they have reopened 6 weeks
Keep scaremongering
You still haven't answered regarding America .
Lots of talk about more cases and this massive rise but hospital administrations are dropping dramatically weeks on week.

Right, I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole.

There's no point, you can talk to smurfy until he's blue in the face....

[J70]

Exactly
The word could
Sure we have been told about a big spike after Easter VHE Beaches and no sign
4% icu beds being now used in Italy and they have reopened 6 weeks
Keep scaremongering
You still haven't answered regarding America .
Lots of talk about more cases and this massive rise but hospital administrations are dropping dramatically weeks on week.

In some places. NY has been on a dramatic, steady decrease for weeks. Others are going up. Florida, Texas, Arizona and others.

They're revising the eventual predicted US death toll up every couple of weeks.

[seafoid]

March

https://www.ft.com/content/396def8e-5d82-11ea-8033-fa40a0d65a98


When the National Bureau of Statistics released a record low figure for its official purchasing managers' index on February 29, it added — in an unusually political aside — that "under the party's firm leadership with Xi Jinping at the core, the virus is coming under control . . . and market confidence is steadily recovering".


June

https://www.ft.com/content/97708919-1264-446c-aa13-8d83ff0572c5

China tightens restrictions as Beijing outbreak widens Flights cancelled and schools closed as authorities try to prevent a second coronavirus wave Residents of Beijing queue to get nucleic acid tests, which can be used to detect traces of coronavirus, after a rise in cases in the Chinese capital

Experts have noted that a Covid-19 disaster in the capital would be embarrassing to the Communist party, which has claimed success in controlling the outbreak compared with the US, UK and many European states.

[STREET FIGHTER]

Using the virus in isolation you could throw out numbers left right and centre
Smoking accounts for 2000 deaths a week in the uk
Cancer 3000 a week
Every death is terrible but men firing  out numbers doesn't add up
A really bad flu year had been no different than this year
2008
2010

What part of 65,000+ dead are you failing to understand- specific to CV19....not smoking.....not cancer....not flu?

[Square Ball]

Just looking at the daily reports and Germany seems to have had a spike in today's new cases. Went up from 338 to 1797, anyone heard anything.

[GiveItToTheShooters]

Just looking at the daily reports and Germany seems to have had a spike in today's new cases. Went up from 338 to 1797, anyone heard anything.

https://www.dw.com/en/coronavirus-over-600-people-test-positive-at-german-slaughterhouse/a-53846038

[Never beat the deeler]

Exactly
The word could
Sure we have been told about a big spike after Easter VHE Beaches and no sign
4% icu beds being now used in Italy and they have reopened 6 weeks
Keep scaremongering
You still haven't answered regarding America .
Lots of talk about more cases and this massive rise but hospital administrations are dropping dramatically weeks on week.

Right, I'm not going any further down this rabbit hole.

There's no point, you can talk to smurfy until he's blue in the face....

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/pub-time-slots-of-105-minutes-to-be-allowed-under-final-reopening-guidelines-1.4281841?mode=amp

Pubs intending to open from the end of the month can provide a time slot of an hour and three quarters for customers under final guidelines for the industry.

Businesses will also be allowed to implement a one-metre physical distancing guideline

The guidance says that where at all practical workers in pubs should provide services to only one gathering and should not move between different function rooms.

It says toilets should not be used simultaneously by multiple gatherings

Customers will also have to be seated at a table except when using the toilet, paying and departing.

Pubs will be required to serve a "substantial meal" for which it would be reasonable to charge not less than €9. 

Following pressure from industry representatives, the seating time in pubs has changed from 90 minutes to 105 minutes with an additional 15 minutes between bookings, which is two hours in total.

"The 15 minutes has been added to allow for adequate cleaning and to ensure customers leave and enter without mixing," the guidelines state.

Previously Dr Tony Holohan, the State's chief medical officer, had said pubs operating as restaurants would not mean several people meeting up "for a few pints and having a packet of peanuts".

[seafoid]

   https://www.ft.com/content/78b1def0-90c1-323a-8d30-a2f4bc64cc20

   Qantas has suspended almost all international flights until late October following indications from the Australian government that it will probably not reopen its borders to most travellers until 2021 due to Covid-19.

[GetOverTheBar]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/pub-time-slots-of-105-minutes-to-be-allowed-under-final-reopening-guidelines-1.4281841?mode=amp

Pubs intending to open from the end of the month can provide a time slot of an hour and three quarters for customers under final guidelines for the industry.

Businesses will also be allowed to implement a one-metre physical distancing guideline

The guidance says that where at all practical workers in pubs should provide services to only one gathering and should not move between different function rooms.

It says toilets should not be used simultaneously by multiple gatherings

Customers will also have to be seated at a table except when using the toilet, paying and departing.

Pubs will be required to serve a "substantial meal" for which it would be reasonable to charge not less than €9.

Following pressure from industry representatives, the seating time in pubs has changed from 90 minutes to 105 minutes with an additional 15 minutes between bookings, which is two hours in total.

"The 15 minutes has been added to allow for adequate cleaning and to ensure customers leave and enter without mixing," the guidelines state.

Previously Dr Tony Holohan, the State's chief medical officer, had said pubs operating as restaurants would not mean several people meeting up "for a few pints and having a packet of peanuts".

Have you ever read such absolute nonsense in your life?

[Smurfy123]

Big call from Australia but they are only delaying the problem. As soon as they do reopen the virus will come back unless it's gone which it won't be. Needed a joined up approach
Track trace isolate our only way to deal with this until a vaccine is found
Madness from the Irish Government
They were always going to move it to 1 metre the the hospitality sector
Madness they would not budge it for the schools to return
Book 3 tables back to back them u are there for 5 hours spending £27 on food. People will do that

[armaghniac]

Book 3 tables back to back them u are there for 5 hours spending £27 on food. People will do that

That is not how it works. No doubt some places will abuse the system but in the present environment any chancers will be called out on this, any pub allowing people stay on will be up on twitter from day 1.