China Coronavirus

[Cunny Funt]

From Tuesday in ROI.

[Milltown Row2]

If the 5km takes you over the border is that ok? Asking for a nut job on here

[Taylor]

If the 5km takes you over the border is that ok? Asking for a nut job on here

[charlieTully]

Would any of you lads know what ppe is standard for Amber areas in hospitals in the south ?

[seafoid]

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-the-re-opening-ireland-plan-in-detail-1.4242985?mode=amp

"The last phase begins on August 10th

Pubs, bars, nightclubs and casinos will re-open where social distancing can be complied with. "

Coppers at 2 metres won't be the same.

https://youtu.be/FYC5d3El4Xg

[RadioGAAGAA]

The government won't be sued.

The absolutely unnecessary public enquiry into care homes during this time, will determine nobody to blame.

Nobody will win.

I'm envisaging a civil action outside a public enquiry - which as you say - are just a monumental waste of money.

We've seen enough of them here over the years to know they are a washout.

But for a civil action to stand a chance then they would need evidence that if government / care home owners had operated differently, then these people would have lived longer.

Such evidence would have to be modelled against the spread of the virus in the country / region ie comparing NZ's care home approach would make no sense, as the spread was more tightly contained across the country.

I just can't see how anyone will be able to pull together the evidence to make that case.

And if I'm being honest, it's no bad thing. Sometimes there isn't actually anyone to blame. It's just life.

Ah, but that's where your missing the key point - the government reduced the classification on COVID-19 so it wouldn't have to supply PPE to the same level. 100+ dead healthcare workers later would indicate that reducing protection was very much a grave mistake.

[RadioGAAGAA]

Any thoughts on WHO saying Sweden have done a great job?

You have still to supply a citation for this.

[laoislad]

Light at the end of the tunnel for us.

Phase 1 (18 May)
allow outdoor meetings between a maximum of 4 people from different households while maintaning social distancing (keeping at least 2 metres away from each other)
open up childcare for healthcare workers
phased return of outdoor workers (for example: construction workers and gardeners)

open retailers which are primarily outdoor or those which were open during first level of restriction (for example: opticians)

opening of certain outdoor public amenities (for example: carparks, beaches, mountain walks where people can move around without coming into contact with each other and they keep at least 2 metres away from each other)

Phase 2 (8 June)
allow visits to households (visits to those who are cocooning can occur if all parties wear facemasks, gloves and maintain a distance of at least 2 metres away from each other)

develop plans and supports to open up business with consideration for safety of staff and customers

open small retail outlets and marts where social distancing can be observed
open public libraries

Phase 3 (29 June)
allow small social gatherings

opening of crèches, childminders and pre-schools for children of essential workers in phased manner
return to work for those with low levels of interaction
open non-essential retail outlets with street level entrance and exit

open playgrounds

Phase 4 (20 July)
opening of crèches, childminders and pre-schools for children of all other workers on a gradually increasing basis
return to work for those who cannot work from home
gradual easing of restrictions for higher risk services (for example: hairdressers)

opening of museums, galleries, places of worship

Phase 5 (10 August)
allow larger social gatherings
return to work across all sectors
on a phased basis, commencing at the beginning of the academic year 2020/2021, opening of primary and secondary schools and 3rd level institutions
further easing of restrictions on high risk retail services

[marty34]

Re: These different phases in the south with the 2/3 weeks in between.

I presume they are dependent on each other e.g. Phase 2 is dependent on Phase 1 going well and no massive hike in figures/deaths etc.?

[laoislad]

Re: These different phases in the south with the 2/3 weeks in between.

I presume they are dependent on each other e.g. Phase 2 is dependent on Phase 1 going well and no massive hike in figures/deaths etc.?

Yeah, they said its possible we could have to go back a phase.

[Smurfy123]

So the bed occupancy in hospitals in the north are now confirmed at 70/30
70% empty
30% occupied
And many say we are not on top of this

[Smurfy123]

Hardstation my friend it's no joke

[LeoMc]

Keelings chartering a flight from Bulgaria for fruit pickers. . . is there any truth to that??

That looks true, shocking stuff. No more Keelings for me.

Whys it shocking?

I'll do it , I live a few miles down the road . And like I've told them in an email I'll also get them 100 able bodied men for the morning .

The locals have neither the appetite or attitude for it.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/04/27/112-50000-uk-applicants-fruit-pickers-take-jobs-amid-farmers/
Did you know the other 12?

[imtommygunn]

That's a joke. Get those beds filled!

It means the lockdown is making a big difference for now. That is all it means.

Radiogaagaa there is a times article about who saying about Sweden and lockdown but it's behind a paywall. I don't know the full ins and outs as I can't see all of it though I expect there is context. I suspect they are saying what Sweden are doing is ideal for the next phase of lockdown as opposed to it being what you should do up front. I am not sure though but I am not fully convinced they are lauding Sweden's approach.(could be wrong as I can't see the whole article)

[edit]
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/04/29-april-who-briefing-trust-sweden/

Best I could get.

[LeoMc]

Alot of manufacturing places in Mid Ulster Area are starting back next week.

I was under the impression they did not have to close, they just had to provide a safe working environment. I would hope they spent the last few weeks productively, getting their facilities and working practices set up.