Man Utd Thread:

[GetOverTheBar]

25 years since that Cantona kung fu kick, i remember listening to it live on BBC radio 5 and recall how excited Alan Green was on the incident. Can you imagine the outrage on twitter if something like that happened today?

Remember it well myself, listening on 5Live as I attempted to cycle back to the house from UCD, horribly ill with flu.

Cantona shouldn't have done it, but it's hard not to sympathize with him. That Simmons **** deserved no sympathy whatsoever. Hopefully he's pulled his head out of his arse and lived a decent life since.

Can't be serious.

[BennyCake]

First time to score more than 6 since the 8-2 v Arsenal in 2011. More clinical and a lot of individual goals droughts broken! Some welcome relief.

Now - Woodworm - buy some players.

And first time since the 6-1 v Arsenal in 2001 that United scored 5 in the first half.

First time since 1892 United had 6 different scorers in a game.

United are setting all sorts of records this season.

[J70]

25 years since that Cantona kung fu kick, i remember listening to it live on BBC radio 5 and recall how excited Alan Green was on the incident. Can you imagine the outrage on twitter if something like that happened today?

Remember it well myself, listening on 5Live as I attempted to cycle back to the house from UCD, horribly ill with flu.

Cantona shouldn't have done it, but it's hard not to sympathize with him. That Simmons **** deserved no sympathy whatsoever. Hopefully he's pulled his head out of his arse and lived a decent life since.

Can't be serious.

Yes, very serious.

Cantona's attitude and conduct during his career was often appalling, and indeed his response was in this case. You can acknowledge that while at the same time sympathizing with how a player might feel when some toerag comes running down the terrace screaming abuse. That fuckwit picked on the wrong guy and got his comeuppance.

[GetOverTheBar]

25 years since that Cantona kung fu kick, i remember listening to it live on BBC radio 5 and recall how excited Alan Green was on the incident. Can you imagine the outrage on twitter if something like that happened today?

Remember it well myself, listening on 5Live as I attempted to cycle back to the house from UCD, horribly ill with flu.

Cantona shouldn't have done it, but it's hard not to sympathize with him. That Simmons **** deserved no sympathy whatsoever. Hopefully he's pulled his head out of his arse and lived a decent life since.

Can't be serious.

Yes, very serious.

Cantona's attitude and conduct during his career was often appalling, and indeed his response was in this case. You can acknowledge that while at the same time sympathizing with how a player might feel when some toerag comes running down the terrace screaming abuse. That fuckwit picked on the wrong guy and got his comeuppance.

I can kinda agree, but it's never been repeated since to my memory? Abuse has never left the terraces (and much worse than what Cantona got) and nobody else decided to throw themselves into the crowd with a fly kick.

[nrico2006]

25 years since that Cantona kung fu kick, i remember listening to it live on BBC radio 5 and recall how excited Alan Green was on the incident. Can you imagine the outrage on twitter if something like that happened today?

Remember it well myself, listening on 5Live as I attempted to cycle back to the house from UCD, horribly ill with flu.

Cantona shouldn't have done it, but it's hard not to sympathize with him. That Simmons **** deserved no sympathy whatsoever. Hopefully he's pulled his head out of his arse and lived a decent life since.

Can't be serious.

Yes, very serious.

Cantona's attitude and conduct during his career was often appalling, and indeed his response was in this case. You can acknowledge that while at the same time sympathizing with how a player might feel when some toerag comes running down the terrace screaming abuse. That fuckwit picked on the wrong guy and got his comeuppance.

I can kinda agree, but it's never been repeated since to my memory? Abuse has never left the terraces (and much worse than what Cantona got) and nobody else decided to throw themselves into the crowd with a fly kick.

Thats not to say they shouldn't.

[AZOffaly]

Evra did fairly recently I think.

[rodney trotter]

Miguel Delaney tweeting no signings will be made by United in this window.

[Cunny Funt]

Northampton or Derby Away in the 5th Round FA Cup draw. Derby knocked United out of the league cup last season.

[Milltown Row2]

Northampton or Derby Away in the 5th Round FA Cup draw. Derby knocked United out of the league cup last season.

Derby have to beat Northampton first

[Cunny Funt]

Northampton or Derby Away in the 5th Round FA Cup draw. Derby knocked United out of the league cup last season.

Derby have to beat Northampton first

Have them at home for the replay.  Wayne Rooney v United if they win.

[OgraAnDun]

Miguel Delaney tweeting no signings will be made by United in this window.

No he's not, he said Utd are prepared to end the window with no signings as negotiations for Fernandes are "at an impasse".

[seafoid]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/football/2020/01/28/manchester-united-fans-right-protest-ed-woodward-death-chant/

"The below chant has been there at the past two Manchester United games I have covered: at home to Burnley last Wednesday and away to Tranmere Rovers in the FA Cup on Sunday. Not from every United fan but not from a small pocket either.

Gonna die, gonna die, Ed Woodward's gonna die
How we kill him, I don't know
Chop him up from head to toe
All I know is Woodward's gonna die
It felt even more widespread in the away end at Prenton Park, presumably because it is a smaller ground, than it did at Old Trafford.
It is unacceptable. Of course it is not meant literally and Woodward is in no harm but this just goes too far. Way too far. Whatever his failings in the job, United's executive vice-chairman does not deserve to be abused and certainly not like this.
United fans have every right to be angry. They have every right to protest. They have every right – and are right - to focus on Woodward and focus on the Glazer family who saddled a debt-free club with £540  million of borrowings, so far paying an extraordinary £1 billion in interest, through a takeover deal whose financing was partly structured by a banker who worked for JP Morgan. A certain Ed Woodward. Earning more than £3m a year, Woodward is now the highest-paid director at any Premier League club and few would claim – on the field – that his stewardship of United has been a success since he took the reins in 2013. 

Ed Woodward has not spoken publicly about the chant
Woodward should be accountable and should be scrutinised and he should know, and does know, that it goes with the territory when you decide to want to be the man who runs a club with United's scale, exposure and expectation. It is a very public job.
It was the Glazers' late father, Malcolm, who Woodward worked with on the deal to fully buy out United back in 2005 and it was Malcolm Glazer who was the subject of the "he's gonna die" chant during protests that year. More than 400 United fans gathered at Old Trafford on the night that news of the proposed takeover broke to chant: "He's gonna die, Malcolm Glazer's gonna die..." as they marched around the Old Trafford perimeter.
Another chant threatened to build a bonfire with Glazer on the top and Woodward in the middle and that chant, to the tune of Oh My Darling Clementine has been raised again in recent games as fans have sang: "Build a bonfire, build a bonfire, put the Glazers on the top, put Ed Woodward in the middle and we'll burn the f------ lot".
In a sense all that is happening now is an acknowledgement of history and a powerful reiteration that the fans anger towards the Glazers never went away. And, despite the trophies won and the success Sir Alex Ferguson continued to bring, why should it? United fans have never been happy with the ownership and that is their prerogative. It is their club and a football club is not like any other business as too many owners, executives, bankers and administrators continually fail to grasp.
Interestingly, the chants back in 2005, which were also raised inside the stadium during at least one match, were not condemned while a Glazer effigy with a noose around its neck was set alight as fans marched down the Chester Road, one of the main routes out of Manchester, and sat down in protests, stopping the traffic.
Is it just that we live in different times or was it wrong back then also? There is nothing wrong with chants of "we want Glazers out", "love United, hate Glazers" and "we want our United back" which have been heard more regularly in recent games while, actually, the most effective protest so far was during the Burnley defeat when fans sang "stand up if you hate Glazers" and thousands inside Old Trafford, and not just those in the Stretford End, responded. It felt like it had a more meaningful impact than a disgusting song aimed at Woodward.
United fans have turned again and who can blame them? It can be argued that the "gonna die" song is just a reference point to the strength of feeling at the time that has never dissipated and so it has more force because of that. It is only a song but it is distasteful; it is unpleasant and just because people did not say so 15 years ago does not mean they cannot say that now while defending the right to protest.
It feels like the biggest show of anger at United since the green and gold campaign and also feels like it is only going to get worse. Any thought Woodward had that appointing Ole Gunnar Solskjaer as manager might insulate him was a big mistake because the United fans will turn on the legendary striker last of all whether he is up to the job or not.
Talk of a mass walkout for the Wolverhampton Wanderers game this Saturday is gathering pace on social media with fans urged to leave in the 58th minute to protest against the Glazers. It is the closest home match to the anniversary of the 1958 Munich air disaster which is why the 58th minute has been suggested to given it maximum effect, although some fans believe the time would be insensitive.

Empty seats will be the most powerful protest of all and there have been some in recent United home games while, as has been seen at Newcastle United and West Ham United this season, there is the wider issue of how fans can protest effectively for change. With both those clubs the protests have had an effect.
It just feels, with United, that the anti-Woodward song goes too far. It sends out a message that allows the fans themselves to be criticised. He is to blame. The Glazers are to blame. Maybe the fans think they need to be vicious to provoke a reaction. But that is never right. The point is this: if you sing like that the content can become the focus and the legitimacy of the protest lost. You put yourself in the wrong – rather than the Glazers – and make your actions easier to dismiss."

[screenexile]

Live scenes at the Theatre of bellends as news comes through of Sanchez coming back in the summer to prove everyone wrong . . .

[brokencrossbar1]

I see Barcelona have stepped into the Bruno Fernandes transfer story....is Woodward just completely shit at this?

[Milltown Row2]

I see Barcelona have stepped into the Bruno Fernandes transfer story....is Woodward just completely shit at this?

Impossible to encourage better players to a club sitting mid table, you only have to look at the players Souness and Roy brought to Liverpool