FAI...June 2024 Friendlies v Hungary and Portugal

[muppet]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

The fact that he's been out of work for the past 2 years and 10 months hardly makes his record better.  
If anyone else with that managerial record was being considered people would wonder what the FAI were at.  I genuinely don't get why people think this is a good move.

Yes but you called that period 'an utter failure as a manager'.

[muppet]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

The fact that he's been out of work for the past 2 years and 10 months hardly makes his record better.  
If anyone else with that managerial record was being considered people would wonder what the FAI were at.  I genuinely don't get why people think this is a good move.

Yes but you called that period 'an utter failure as a manager'.

Fair enough.  He was an utter failure as a manager up until 2 years and ten months ago since when he has not been employed as a manager.

Take Keane's name out of it, and imagine that description applying to someone else being given the job of assistant coach of the national team.  Why would that be a good hire?

[Itchy]

Why was Keane's record as a manager so bad in you opinion? Not half as bad as you are letting on.

[muppet]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

The fact that he's been out of work for the past 2 years and 10 months hardly makes his record better.  
If anyone else with that managerial record was being considered people would wonder what the FAI were at.  I genuinely don't get why people think this is a good move.

Yes but you called that period 'an utter failure as a manager'.

Fair enough.  He was an utter failure as a manager up until 2 years and ten months ago since when he has not been employed as a manager.

Take Keane's name out of it, and imagine that description applying to someone else being given the job of assistant coach of the national team.  Why would that be a good hire?

We hired Walsall's assistant coach and made him the 'Gaffer'.
We hired a man who had coached St. Pat's Athletic and some underage teams.

And they were number 1.
It is a good appointment for a number 2.

[Jell 0 Biafra]

Yeah, I mentioned that he won the championship 6 years ago, but he's done nothing since.  And I know the FAI has hired worse with less experience.  That doesn't make this a good decision though.

[Zulu]

So you're saying the number 2 position is not important?

[ballinaman]

What a game. We had some support up, class atmosphere. Didn't think might heart could take it in those 8 mins of injury time! Hon the Rovers!  Absolute bedlam when the winner went in, I think i ended up about 4 rows infront of me!! haha

[Feckitt]

What would the attendance be at that Sligo game today?

[ballinaman]

What would the attendance be at that Sligo game today?

17,000 approx

[Main Street]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Don't forget that there are  some people who have a rationale based hatred of the man.

I'm okay with Keane being under the tutelage of MON. He's emotionally immature, still has a lot learn  re managing players, and regardless of what MON has to offer to the team  from a coaching perspective, he's a character that demands respect and not even Roy Keane can go within a country mile of impacting negatively on that.
But as an assistant to the manager I would be disturbed at the figures being speculated as to what Keane will be paid, some Eur. 700k p/a.

[rodney trotter]

It was good for Keane to be given a No 2 role, as that was as good as he as he was going to get at present with Ireland. He can learn from an experienced manager like O Neill.
Keane walked out of the job at Sunderland when results started to go bad and was sacked at Ipswich, with players relieved he was gone. Hopefully O Neill and Keane can work well together and no fck ups with players over communication about not being in the squad ,like what happened with the previous management.

[anglocelt39]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Well I don't fall into either category Muppet so let's continue:

1. Why does Martin O Neill need a "high profile" 2ic to "assist him in his job as Ireland Coach?

2. Our Roy has been out of work now for, what is it again, 2 years and 10 months. So is it safe to assume he has been turning down positions in the knowledge that the plum job of 2IC to the new Irish gaffer had his  name on it?

3. Summed up nicely in the Sunday Times today, you can imagine the players man Roy acting as emissary on behalf of Robbie Brady/Shane Long/Stephen Ireland to the fearsome MON to advise that their hotel beds aren't as comfortable as expected. FAI are seriously broke and the Roy show will at least guarantee a full house at the up coming friendly so thats the financial side sorted out in the short term at any rate.

Will sell a few seats in the short term, surprised at MON allowing himself to be involved in such a circus but wait, if it goes pear shaped sure how could he operate in such a mad set up..............................

[laoislad]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Or you could say there are some who have an irrational love of the man and there are some who don't.

[muppet]

6 years ago, Keane won the whatever-they-call-the-second-division-now.  Since then he's been an utter failure as a manager.  On what basis does anyone think putting him in the frame is a good move?

Of those 6 years it is 2 years and 10 months since he was a manager.

The facts are he brought up a yoyo club and brought them back down again. McCarthy has done the same with the same club but without the blind vilification.

Then he was pretty ordinary with Ipswich and was sacked. This has also happened many managers without villification.

You conveniently forgot to mention that transfer budget Roy got compared to McCarthy in both positions. For a man who professes to hate football punditry as much as he does  how come he has not been snapped up by any number of clubs that have had managerial vacancies in the past 12 months?

I didn't 'conveniently forget' anything.

There are some people who have an irrational hatred of the man. And there are some who don't.

Or you could say there are some who have an irrational love of the man and there are some who don't.

This would be the line of one with the irrational hated. Anyone else who doesn't share the irrational hated, obviously then 'loves' the man.