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[You could see there being a 3A and 3B in the near future the way things are going, the gap between the junior contenders and the bottom is widening every year.]

Killyman beaten by Donaghmore Thirds which is the only game they won in 2023 (Donaghmore III lost every game last year).

Things must be getting really dicey for them lately, your heart would go out to anyone trying to keep the thing going with the amount of lads moving away at the minute. Must be trojan work.

Definite split in division 3 as many men have mentioned on here, Raymond Monteith mentioned it at county convention a few months ago. You could see there being a 3A and 3B in the near future the way things are going, the gap between the junior contenders and the bottom is widening every year.

This is passed and will come into effect in 2025. Will also encourage more development teams. A positive move for the club scene as Junior football as it stands is dying a death with the big difference top and bottom.

Don't know how it's passed. A change like that would have to be voted by clubs and clubs notified well in advance if mid table clubs want to push on instead of downing tools for championship after a few league defeats.

It looks like it was in the regulations that were sent to all clubs a few months ago. They would've been voted on by club delegates at county committee to so were essentially 'passed' by clubs. Been plenty of discussion around it so clubs have had plenty of notice

Been mentioned to me two or three times M McGleenan

McGleenan and Dd Mulgrew both away

I found this from a couple of years back and was attempting to update it

83 Omagh
84
85 Coalisland
86 Shamrocks
87 Eglish
88 CastleDerg
89 Dungannon
90 Moortown
91 Coalisland
92 Dromore
93 Dungannon
94 Dungannon
95 Coalisland
96 Eglish
97 Eglish
98 Ardboe
99 Errigal
00 Coalisland
01 Clonoe
02 Killeeshil
03 Cookstown
04 Carmen
05 Errigal
06 Coalisland
07 Errigal
08 Ardboe
09 Omagh
10 Omagh
11 Naomh Mhuire
12 Ardboe
13 Ardboe
14 Moortown
15 Moortown
16 Carmen
17 Errigal
18 Errigal
19 Cappagh
20 Carrickmore /Omagh
21 Donaghmore
22 Donaghmore
23 Donaghmore

I couldn't find the result of the 2020 championship. The first game was a draw. Was it shared because of Covid?
Which years were u17?

Carrickmore beat omagh on penalties in 2020 final, played in 2021 I think

Think 2021 and 2022 were u17 seasons.

Attacking play on the whole has a bit to go yet. It was good to see Oguz running at people today although it didn't always work out he's got the size and speed to cause problems. Conn can still take too much out of it at times

Thought Ben Cullen done well today but Niall Devlin had his hands full on paudie Clifford and couldn't really get near him

I'd have Cullen nailed on for a start going forward.

Maybe coincidence but we've been at our worst when he hasn't been on the pitch so far (2nd half v Derry, full game v Galway, 1st half v Mayo)

C Devlin, Clarke, Daly, O'Donnell, Donaghy have been big positives so far too

Alternative venues aren't an option as health and safety has moved on from the early 2000s. There were more in attendance in Healy Park for both games than MUDC or FODC would allow as the capacity for Dungannon/ Carrickmore/ Coalisland/ Pomeroy now and then you're into the issue of u16s needing tickets. McKenna Cup games on tour might be more realistic.

Out of interest, what was the attendance for the games against Roscommon and Galway? 8,000?

Healy Park capacity is what 18,000?

Would a 10,000 capacity venue packed not be far better than half empty soulless alternative

If you put those games on in Cmore, Dungannon, etc there would likely be an attendance uplift, due to novelty alone, maybe the game would need to be ticketed just to be on the safe side

And logistics in and around those grounds would be an issue, but not beyond the wit of man

Bit of a joke Dublin won't play games at Parnell Park, I'm sure plenty of Dubs feel the same

If they were to use smaller grounds, which would likely be near capacity, then u16's would be charged into the games as it'd be all ticket. Would this help? Honestly not sure.

From Niall Gartland on Twitter/X:

JP McManus donation: Tyrone GAA have worked out they have in effect 108 'clubs' affiliated to the three governing associations (the GAA, LGFA and Camogie). So in real terms a Tyrone club affiliated with one association receives just over £9k euro, a club with two, twice that etc.

What would the breakdown of that be?
47 Football clubs, 10 Hurling clubs, 8 Camogie clubs and 43 Ladies football?

So Carrickmore for example are entitled to 4 x 9k = 36k?

out of interest whats the make up of the 10 hurling clubs in the county?

Football and hurling aren't seperated as both fall under GAA.

E.g. Omagh would get 3 cheques - 1 for GAA (football/Hurling), 1 for Ladies Football and 1 for Camogie.

They would be separate if they are separate clubs, e.g St Colmcilles / Eire Og or Clarkes : Eoghan Rua.

Obviously, because they're seperate Clubs.

Eire Og get 2 cheques for GAA (football or Hurling) and Camogie.

Colmcilles get 2 cheques for GAA (football or Hurling) and Ladies Football.

Are there any examples of Hurling / football falling under the same club and missing out, e.g. Omagh, Fintona, Killyclogher?

Yeah those three would miss out. They'll only get 1 cheque for 'GAA' even though they offer both sports.

I guess CB's hand are tied, I believe McManus's letter said money should be divided across the 3 associations rather than the 4 sports

From Niall Gartland on Twitter/X:

JP McManus donation: Tyrone GAA have worked out they have in effect 108 'clubs' affiliated to the three governing associations (the GAA, LGFA and Camogie). So in real terms a Tyrone club affiliated with one association receives just over £9k euro, a club with two, twice that etc.

What would the breakdown of that be?
47 Football clubs, 10 Hurling clubs, 8 Camogie clubs and 43 Ladies football?

So Carrickmore for example are entitled to 4 x 9k = 36k?

out of interest whats the make up of the 10 hurling clubs in the county?

Football and hurling aren't seperated as both fall under GAA.

E.g. Omagh would get 3 cheques - 1 for GAA (football/Hurling), 1 for Ladies Football and 1 for Camogie.

They would be separate if they are separate clubs, e.g St Colmcilles / Eire Og or Clarkes : Eoghan Rua.

Obviously, because they're seperate Clubs.

Eire Og get 2 cheques for GAA (football or Hurling) and Camogie.

Colmcilles get 2 cheques for GAA (football or Hurling) and Ladies Football.

From Niall Gartland on Twitter/X:

JP McManus donation: Tyrone GAA have worked out they have in effect 108 'clubs' affiliated to the three governing associations (the GAA, LGFA and Camogie). So in real terms a Tyrone club affiliated with one association receives just over £9k euro, a club with two, twice that etc.

What would the breakdown of that be?
47 Football clubs, 10 Hurling clubs, 8 Camogie clubs and 43 Ladies football?

So Carrickmore for example are entitled to 4 x 9k = 36k?

out of interest whats the make up of the 10 hurling clubs in the county?

Football and hurling aren't seperated as both fall under GAA.

E.g. Omagh would get 3 cheques - 1 for GAA (football/Hurling), 1 for Ladies Football and 1 for Camogie.

Did Dooher say that Ruairi Canavan broke his finger in the warm up? Disappointing if he is going to he missing for a spell when we're trying to settle him into the team.

Liam Gray broke his finger pre match. Canavan was sick

I feel sorry for the players in this county, the standard of refereeing in Tyrone is on the floor and highlighted by some recent disastrous performances.

Junior and inter finals, yesterday's league final amongst many - utterly dreadful officiating. We're getting to the point where clubs will have to step up and say enough is enough

I see Coalisland advertising for Expressions of Interest as well.

Will this be there 5th manager in 5 years?

Any word on the other grade 1 minor championship semi final? I see cookstown eglish fixed for this weekend. Tyrone winners due to play St Paul's on weekend of the 10th. I'd imagine they will receive a bye

Who is in it?
Trillick/Dromore v ?

Couldn't work this out myself so checked Tyrone website who say it is Donaghmore
Quarter finals were played on 1st September and we haven't even moved on after 2 months. Farcical by the county board
Obviously Sludden looking after his own in this case...

I believe it's actually Dromore who are appealing the decision to award the game to Trillick - it's at the DRA in Dublin.

I am aware of that but surely they should be thrown out. Refusing to play penalties and then delay competition by 2 months, especially if as other posters suggest - previous offenders who done this were thrown out of their competition.

Yeah, but is that not what they're appealing? Being thrown out of the comp.

They're entitled to appeal that but it seems to be taking a while

Any word on the other grade 1 minor championship semi final? I see cookstown eglish fixed for this weekend. Tyrone winners due to play St Paul's on weekend of the 10th. I'd imagine they will receive a bye

Who is in it?
Trillick/Dromore v ?

Couldn't work this out myself so checked Tyrone website who say it is Donaghmore
Quarter finals were played on 1st September and we haven't even moved on after 2 months. Farcical by the county board
Obviously Sludden looking after his own in this case...

I believe it's actually Dromore who are appealing the decision to award the game to Trillick - it's at the DRA in Dublin.

Any word on the other grade 1 minor championship semi final? I see cookstown eglish fixed for this weekend. Tyrone winners due to play St Paul's on weekend of the 10th. I'd imagine they will receive a bye

Who is in it?
Trillick/Dromore v ?

Yes Dromore refused to take penalties at the end of ET apparently, but they havent been kicked out of the competition unlike other teams who've done the same previously. Would they have any powerful connections in the county board ?

Which other teams in Tyrone were kicked out of the a competition after refusing to take penalties?

With the allstars on tonight is there any word of Tyrone starting back up? Any new faces on and off the pitch?

Hearing alot of new faces up. Good to see

I had previously heard:

Aodhan Donaghy - Loughmacrory
Eoin McElholm - Loughmacrory
Tarlach Quinn - Moortown
Cormac Donnelly - Galbally
Lorcan McGarrity - Carrickmore
Conor McAneney - Glenelly
Tiernan Quinn - Coalisland

Anyone else?

Ronan Duffin, Ben Cullen and Conall Devlin have been mentioned as call-ups.

Would any of these call ups actually improve Tyrone anywhere? Can not see  any of them making any impact.

I dont think so myself.

Eoin McElholm possibly.

The first 15/18 players has barely changed in the last few years. Some big retirements incoming too. Really need to be bedding in a good few younger players this season.

Might bring some drive back that's been lost since the AI win too