Westminster Election 12th December 2019

[tiempo]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

[johnnycool]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

A very safe Tory seat of 23K majority in the last election to losing by 6K votes, that's some swing..

By Elections are traditionally a time when various governments get a bit of a bloody nose but that is something else.

[Armagh18]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

A very safe Tory seat of 23K majority in the last election to losing by 6K votes, that's some swing..

By Elections are traditionally a time when various governments get a bit of a bloody nose but that is something else.

That is some swing alright.

[bigarsedkeeper]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

A very safe Tory seat of 23K majority in the last election to losing by 6K votes, that's some swing..

By Elections are traditionally a time when various governments get a bit of a bloody nose but that is something else.

Labour took a hit as well so unless the whole country is going to go lib dem it's hard to see how they will be shifted in a general election

[armaghniac]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

A very safe Tory seat of 23K majority in the last election to losing by 6K votes, that's some swing..

By Elections are traditionally a time when various governments get a bit of a bloody nose but that is something else.

Labour took a hit as well so unless the whole country is going to go lib dem it's hard to see how they will be shifted in a general election

A willingness to tactical vote, i.e. support the candidate most likely to see them out, would shift them in a general election.

[Armagh18]

There won't be a Llama milked in Market Drayton this weekend

A very safe Tory seat of 23K majority in the last election to losing by 6K votes, that's some swing..

By Elections are traditionally a time when various governments get a bit of a bloody nose but that is something else.

Labour took a hit as well so unless the whole country is going to go lib dem it's hard to see how they will be shifted in a general election

A willingness to tactical vote, i.e. support the candidate most likely to see them out, would shift them in a general election.

Ah now you're asking English people to show a whiff of intelligence? Come on

[mouview]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

[Armagh18]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

He can appeal to the ordinary thick Englishman though with his bumbling clown act and fool them into thinking he's one of the lads rather than a Tory snob. Who would replace him that could do that?

[dec]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

Boris at the wheel

[bigarsedkeeper]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

He can appeal to the ordinary thick Englishman though with his bumbling clown act and fool them into thinking he's one of the lads rather than a Tory snob. Who would replace him that could do that?

Labour's leader at the minute is closer to what you would think of as the typical tory man. Gary Neville has went after the torys more in the last few weeks than starmer has over the last 18 months. With everything going on with Brexit and the handling of Covid he should of never had his boot out of Boris's hole.

[Armagh18]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

He can appeal to the ordinary thick Englishman though with his bumbling clown act and fool them into thinking he's one of the lads rather than a Tory snob. Who would replace him that could do that?

Labour's leader at the minute is closer to what you would think of as the typical tory man. Gary Neville has went after the torys more in the last few weeks than starmer has over the last 18 months. With everything going on with Brexit and the handling of Covid he should of never had his boot out of Boris's hole.

There's a reason the Tory press haven't hounded him out like they did Corbyn...

[Rossfan]

Labour may prefer to play the longer game in this. For as long as BJ is leader, it's likely Tory support will whittle away. Rather like ABUs with Solskjaer as MU manager, better for them for Johnson to remain in place as a lame duck PM.

He can appeal to the ordinary thick Englishman though with his bumbling clown act and fool them into thinking he's one of the lads rather than a Tory snob. Who would replace him that could do that?

Labour's leader at the minute is closer to what you would think of as the typical tory man. Gary Neville has went after the torys more in the last few weeks than starmer has over the last 18 months. With everything going on with Brexit and the handling of Covid he should of never had his boot out of Boris's hole.

HAS GONE
SHOULD HAVE
2 yellow cards for you me lad!

[bennydorano]

Starmer is playing the long game and I commend him for it, he's not a big personality but Bojo's cult of personality is on the way out and someone of Starmer's personality (& intellect) is what the UK will be crying out for as the Tories Government of imbeciles bumbles towards the next GE. Sunak coming in is his big danger, Truss would be a gift for him

Read a few good articles today, the most interesting was by Spectator commentator James Forsythe (who didn't know the by election result), he reckoned no one is interested in taking over the current tory shit show mid melt down and a putsch was more likely after the local elections in England in May.

[Bord na Mona man]

Read a few good articles today, the most interesting was by Spectator commentator James Forsythe (who didn't know the by election result), he reckoned no one is interested in taking over the current tory shit show mid melt down and a putsch was more likely after the local elections in England in May.

There is merit in that argument. Very few of them want to own the Brexit fiasco especially the ones who didn't even support it, or certainly not the hard version they have brought on themselves.

Most Tories are pragmatists and hard nosed business folk who realise the value of single markets and barrier free trade.
On the other hand, part of being a Tory means engaging in flag shagging and jingoistic posturing to impress the gammon voter base.
Blaming Brussels was part of that playbook, though I doubt they expected it to come back to bite them in such a fashion.

The next leader would need to be someone with a super brass neck - willing to keep proclaiming victory and success when all evidence points to the very opposite.
This was no problem to someone who could lie and bluff as easily as Johnson could. Does someone else want to assume that role or should they keep Johnno as Troll-In-Chief.

[johnnycool]

Starmer is playing the long game and I commend him for it, he's not a big personality but Bojo's cult of personality is on the way out and someone of Starmer's personality (& intellect) is what the UK will be crying out for as the Tories Government of imbeciles bumbles towards the next GE. Sunak coming in is his big danger, Truss would be a gift for him

Read a few good articles today, the most interesting was by Spectator commentator James Forsythe (who didn't know the by election result), he reckoned no one is interested in taking over the current tory shit show mid melt down and a putsch was more likely after the local elections in England in May.

Forsythe is married to Stratton who Boris threw to the wolves in the hope that the party scandals would go away.
Whilst he might be right, he's got the knives out for Boris...