Graham Linehan on Twitter / Trans debate

[Milltown Row2]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Would you agree there's two categories of people. Those who can get pregnant and those who can't?

My sister couldn't get pregnant, what category will we put her in?

[seafoid]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Would you agree there's two categories of people. Those who can get pregnant and those who can't?

Not all women can get pregnant.

[J70]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Half of trans women are AGPs who get turned on by pretending to be female. The proportion with some body difference is tiny.

I don't know what an AGP is.

[seafoid]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Half of trans women are AGPs who get turned on by pretending to be female. The proportion with some body difference is tiny.

I don't know what an AGP is.

https://feministwiki.org/wiki/Autogynephilia

[trailer]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Would you agree there's two categories of people. Those who can get pregnant and those who can't?

Not all women can get pregnant.

No but they're of the nature that can get pregnant. If a woman can't get pregnant they'll run tests to try and find out why and hopefully rectify it. If I a man go to the doctor and say I can't get pregnant no doctor is gonna run tests. Agree?

So there's two groups. People who potentially can and those who definitely can't get pregnant.
It's binary.
Male and female.

Hopefully makes sense.

[JoG2]

Did Arnie not get pregnant about 30 years ago?

[Milltown Row2]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Would you agree there's two categories of people. Those who can get pregnant and those who can't?

Not all women can get pregnant.

No but they're of the nature that can get pregnant. If a woman can't get pregnant they'll run tests to try and find out why and hopefully rectify it. If I a man go to the doctor and say I can't get pregnant no doctor is gonna run tests. Agree?

So there's two groups. People who potentially can and those who definitely can't get pregnant.
It's binary.
Male and female.

Hopefully makes sense.

It does but as shown, not all things are normal

[J70]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Would you agree there's two categories of people. Those who can get pregnant and those who can't?

Not all women can get pregnant.

No but they're of the nature that can get pregnant. If a woman can't get pregnant they'll run tests to try and find out why and hopefully rectify it. If I a man go to the doctor and say I can't get pregnant no doctor is gonna run tests. Agree?

So there's two groups. People who potentially can and those who definitely can't get pregnant.
It's binary.
Male and female.

Hopefully makes sense.

QED, huh?

What does any of that have to do with what I said about gender identity?

[J70]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Half of trans women are AGPs who get turned on by pretending to be female. The proportion with some body difference is tiny.

I don't know what an AGP is.

https://feministwiki.org/wiki/Autogynephilia

Ok. Are there stats to back up "half"?

What about the rest? That's still half.

[seafoid]

Can you point me to some of this basic science Trailer?

Because from what I can see, there is a large range of genetic, hormonal and environmental factors which are in play in the formation of one's gender identity, and the jury is very much out on the relative contribution of all those factors, just like it is for many questions in neuroscience. My point in bringing up intersex individuals is that there are so many things that have go right, for lack of a better word, in the biological developmental process, that the end result is not always a neat either/or. And that is just anatomy we are talking about. The way the brain works is far less understood. If you are going to deny the humanity and dignity of trans people en masse and arrogantly dismiss them all as dangerous frauds, you should have some solid ground to stand on.

Half of trans women are AGPs who get turned on by pretending to be female. The proportion with some body difference is tiny.

I don't know what an AGP is.

https://feministwiki.org/wiki/Autogynephilia

Ok. Are there stats to back up "half"?

What about the rest? That's still half.

Same link. Blanchard. https://feministwiki.org/wiki/Autogynephilia

[J70]

Dr. Blanchard's work appears to  be controversial, to say the least, from a little I read about it. At the very least, it is certainly not a robust enough base on which to rationalize prejudice or discrimination against trans people.

[Brendan]

Just seen a rewording of On the one road, the new chorus goes "North people, South People comrades all", not quite as catchy

[Olly]

Looks well I think

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1677976646148554753?s=20

[Captain Obvious]

Looks well I think

https://twitter.com/EvaVlaar/status/1677976646148554753?s=20

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[jcpen]

Common sense starting to prevail. More of this please.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/cycling/2023/0714/1394580-male-puberty-to-put-the-brakes-on-trans-women-cyclists/