Graham Linehan on Twitter / Trans debate

Started by bennydorano, May 08, 2020, 08:34:57 PM

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imtommygunn

It's not the right thing to do in sports tbh.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: imtommygunn on February 21, 2023, 06:58:18 PM
It's not the right thing to do in sports tbh.

If we have male sports and female sports can we not try transgender sports, would you not want to pit yourself, if you recognise as transgender, (I don't even know if that's correct wording) against other transgender athletes?

If you were born as a woman then looking to compete as a man it wouldn't be smart in an athletic sport?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Tony Baloney

Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

imtommygunn

The day to day stuff is fine but sports and physical development etc don't make it right in the area for me. Physical power differences etc too great.

I think it is maybe triathlon they have a transgender section. Actually reading it  they have a long term policy on testosterone level... (24 months).

Main Street

The swimming sports  body (FINA) have recently adopted their Trans policy
https://7news.com.au/sport/swimming/fina-bans-transgender-athletes-from-elite-womens-competition-if-they-went-through-puberty-c-7223511

"Female-to-male transgender athletes remain eligible to compete in FINA competitions and to set world records in the men's category."
"Male-to-female athletes cannot compete in women's categories at the highest levels unless they completed their transition by the age of 12."
"The organisation will also work to establish an "open" category at competitions for swimmers whose gender identity is different to their birth sex."


There's a rake of biological research to support the claim that boys greatly benefit physiologically when passing through puberty, much more so than females.
The selected age 12 looks be a mid point, I don't about other counties but us Monaghan boys started shaving around our 10th birthday.




Kidder81

Has Nicola Sturgeon taken up a new role with the LGFA ?  :(

tonto1888

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

What rights are being superseded?

seafoid

Quote from: Main Street on February 21, 2023, 07:50:34 PM
The swimming sports  body (FINA) have recently adopted their Trans policy
https://7news.com.au/sport/swimming/fina-bans-transgender-athletes-from-elite-womens-competition-if-they-went-through-puberty-c-7223511

"Female-to-male transgender athletes remain eligible to compete in FINA competitions and to set world records in the men's category."
"Male-to-female athletes cannot compete in women's categories at the highest levels unless they completed their transition by the age of 12."
"The organisation will also work to establish an "open" category at competitions for swimmers whose gender identity is different to their birth sex."


There's a rake of biological research to support the claim that boys greatly benefit physiologically when passing through puberty, much more so than females.
The selected age 12 looks be a mid point, I don't about other counties but us Monaghan boys started shaving around our 10th birthday.
So bald by age 30

Tony Baloney

Quote from: tonto1888 on February 21, 2023, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

What rights are being superseded?
Are you being facetious or just stupid?

Kidder81

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 21, 2023, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

What rights are being superseded?
Are you being facetious or just stupid?

Tonto seems to be some sort of trans activist

trueblue1234

Quote from: Kidder81 on February 21, 2023, 08:25:24 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 21, 2023, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

What rights are being superseded?
Are you being facetious or just stupid?

Tonto seems to be some sort of trans activist

That sort of comment is no different from calling people transphobic just because they have genuine concerns about the implementation of trans policies. Both unhelpful.
Grammar: the difference between knowing your shit

tonto1888

Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 08:24:25 PM
Quote from: tonto1888 on February 21, 2023, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on February 21, 2023, 07:06:43 PM
Organisations are too afraid to stand up for themselves and roll over for this shit as they don't want to face the inevitable backlash. What world are we living in where the rights of a tiny majority now supersede those of the majority.

What rights are being superseded?
Are you being facetious or just stupid?
So you don't know. Glad you cleared that up

seafoid

I think trans must be the first example of human rights that involve the denial of rights to other people

https://twitter.com/IWF/status/1620493823251030028


tonto1888

Quote from: seafoid on February 21, 2023, 10:41:58 PM
I think trans must be the first example of human rights that involve the denial of rights to other people

https://twitter.com/IWF/status/1620493823251030028

What rights were denied there?