The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - Arne to Slot right in?

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ONeill

I think he's taken them to a new level. And the PL too. Liverpool have had 2 near-faultless seasons and didn't win the league.
I wanna have my kicks before the whole shithouse goes up in flames.

Tony Baloney

Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2024, 11:53:35 PMI think he's taken them to a new level. And the PL too. Liverpool have had 2 near-faultless seasons and didn't win the league.
Yep it can't be all money or all manager, you need both. A bit of financial misconduct also helps.

Milltown Row2

Quote from: Tony Baloney on April 26, 2024, 11:55:48 PM
Quote from: ONeill on April 26, 2024, 11:53:35 PMI think he's taken them to a new level. And the PL too. Liverpool have had 2 near-faultless seasons and didn't win the league.
Yep it can't be all money or all manager, you need both. A bit of financial misconduct also helps.

It has to be about the management, Chelsea and Utd have on many occasions surpassed city's spending and came up short..

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

gawa316

It's a combo of the best manager about, financial clout, and recruitment...city haven't skipped a beat after replacing legends like Kompany, Fernandinho, Silva, Aguero, etc

Jell 0 Biafra

It's whole lot easier to slot a good/great player into an already great team core.  If you can manage to also replace older players with younger players into that team/squad, you can keep it going for a while (Liverpool late 70s to late 80s, Man U early 90s to 10s, City now).

A lot of that great Utd team were of a similar age (they were all part of the "win nothing with kids" team).  Once they all retire, you're left with a bunch of bit parts and you're looking to rebuild the core.  That's the hard part.  And that's where teams that won a lot of trophies on the bounce fall back.

Milltown Row2

So it's not about City's money (as we are in agreement) Chelsea plus utd have spent more and the likes of Liverpool's and city are better because of their appointments

that settled, I'm bored of City winning but it's not down to over spending

None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

Look-Up!

Quote from: gawa316 on April 27, 2024, 12:12:06 AMIt's a combo of the best manager about, financial clout, and recruitment...city haven't skipped a beat after replacing legends like Kompany, Fernandinho, Silva, Aguero, etc
Yaya a legend too. Greatest thing about Pep is his ability to handle egos. No one is bigger than the club, doesn't matter who you are or what you've done. If you get notions you either fall quickly back in line or get the boot. But still he keeps the persona of someone approachable, reasonable and forgiving. Brilliant manager.

imtommygunn

Dare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.

Look-Up!

Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2024, 08:23:21 AMDare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.
Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.

Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year but fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.

jcpen

Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2024, 08:23:21 AMDare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.
Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.

Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year b ::) ut fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.
You forgot they've done all this by breaking financial rules and have 115 charges against them.. but yeah fair play to them.
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Look-Up!

Quote from: jcpen on April 27, 2024, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2024, 08:23:21 AMDare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.
Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.

Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year b ::) ut fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.
You forgot they've done all this by breaking financial rules and have 115 charges against them.. but yeah fair play to them.
Haven't forgot, just couldn't care less. City are entitled to appeal and if they get away scot-free all's fair in love and war. Football is incredibly corrupt, always was so I'll take my moral cues from elsewhere, certainly not from a football governing body.

PL was quite happy to follow the money and sell out, same as the big clubs in PL. Very happy to get in bed with the devil and devalue their history, FA Cup cough cough, but start crying not fair when they get blind sided by a minnow who wooed big money and then manage that money a hell of a lot better than they ever could.

But there's no point getting too worked up about it either way. I follow football for what happens on the field, not off it, and appreciate City for what they've done. A truly class team.

J70

Draw against Spurs next weekend will most likely secure CL football for next season.

About all that's left now.

Team looks completely gassed.

Gakpo should have rolled that ball in when the keeper threw it out. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened!

Milltown Row2

Quote from: J70 on April 27, 2024, 02:30:34 PMDraw against Spurs next weekend will most likely secure CL football for next season.

About all that's left now.

Team looks completely gassed.

Gakpo should have rolled that ball in when the keeper threw it out. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened!

Could Liverpool miss out on CL football?
None of us are getting out of here alive, so please stop treating yourself like an after thought. Ea

J70

Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 27, 2024, 02:34:42 PM
Quote from: J70 on April 27, 2024, 02:30:34 PMDraw against Spurs next weekend will most likely secure CL football for next season.

About all that's left now.

Team looks completely gassed.

Gakpo should have rolled that ball in when the keeper threw it out. Would have been interesting to see what would have happened!

Could Liverpool miss out on CL football?

As poor as Liverpool are currently playing, it's still highly unlikely, but mathematically possible. Liverpool have 75 points and a superior goal difference. Spurs are 15 behind with five games left, but still have to play Liverpool, Arsenal and City.

That said, Liverpool won't want to end up in fourth, as that requires a qualifying round, if I'm not mistaken. They could need a result away to Villa to make sure of third.

Captain Obvious

Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 01:55:53 PM
Quote from: jcpen on April 27, 2024, 01:31:12 PM
Quote from: Look-Up! on April 27, 2024, 09:31:12 AM
Quote from: imtommygunn on April 27, 2024, 08:23:21 AMDare I say it but it's a bit like Dublin. Financial advantage, an obviously brilliant manager and a well run setup in terms of actually using money well as opposed to just throwing money needlessly at stuff.

Money on its own won't buy you success. It's definitely a big help mind you.
Maybe not as big an outlier as the Dubs as I think there's plenty financial clout and resources in other clubs in the PL to match City. There's a reason Leister were 5000/1 to win the PL, it's essentially a closed shop to only the few unless an unusual set of stars align.

Problem with City is that their recent history meant they were unfashionable and easy to label "new money trash". It's pure snobbery and I like how much their success winds people up. Sure it's starting to become a bit boring and it would be nice to see someone like Arsenal pip them this year b ::) ut fair play to them and their manager for what they've achieved. They'll come back into the pack soon enough when he leaves. They haven't racked up a billion in debt, don't owe hundreds of millions in unpaid transfer fees to other clubs and are investing in the local community. If some sugar daddy is willing to waste his own money doing that, so what.
You forgot they've done all this by breaking financial rules and have 115 charges against them.. but yeah fair play to them.
Haven't forgot, just couldn't care less. City are entitled to appeal and if they get away scot-free all's fair in love and war. Football is incredibly corrupt, always was so I'll take my moral cues from elsewhere, certainly not from a football governing body.

PL was quite happy to follow the money and sell out, same as the big clubs in PL. Very happy to get in bed with the devil and devalue their history, FA Cup cough cough, but start crying not fair when they get blind sided by a minnow who wooed big money and then manage that money a hell of a lot better than they ever could.

But there's no point getting too worked up about it either way. I follow football for what happens on the field, not off it, and appreciate City for what they've done. A truly class team.

A Manchester City supporter and if so when did you start following them, before or after the sugar daddy selected them?

What happens off the field is what makes any team successful on it.  Manchester City without striking it rich would probably be a club struggling to retain Premier League status than winning league titles.