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GAA Discussion / Re: We need to talk about Stephen Cluxton
« on: July 19, 2017, 11:16:47 AM »
What was so good about John O'Leary? I remember him being there forever but I don't recall any greatness.

He did win 5 All-Star awards.

Yeah exactly the same as Cluxton, also won 8 Leinsters, 2 all Irelands and 3 leagues, but that doesn't matter to people who hate all things Dublin and can never give credit. O Leary was one the best.

Dublin have had 4 championship keepers since 74, Cluxton, O Leary and Cullen and a bonus point for the odd one out?

Mick Kennedy played a couple championship games in goal and Brian Murphy played against Armagh 03 and Westmeath 04 when Cluxton was sent off.

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I see the Dublin media bandwagon has rolled out properly this week, Redmond yesterday and Alan Brogan today.
Obviously they feel Tyrone are becoming a threat now too, I suppose they will be their semifinal opponents

https://www.balls.ie/gaa/alan-brogan-tyrone-keeper-niall-morgan-369482

No one in Dublin sees Tyrone as a threat.

Mickey will be delighted with that.

He can be as delighted as he wants. Tyrone won't be beating Dublin.

I wouldn't be dismissing Tyrone. We find it very difficult to break down their blanket defence. The Tyrone are very disciplined and like last Sunday don't give away too many scoreable frees. If they can get more from their inside line they will be contenders. Conor McAliskey is a huge loss this year.

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GAA Discussion / Re: The Sunday Game
« on: July 17, 2017, 02:08:24 PM »
Martin Carney is one blabbermouth throughout the whole game and manages to say nothing.

How is that gobshite still on the telly? Announces at start of second half McCarthy gone to midfield Kilkenny to centre forward. What game was he watching in first half  ;D

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Cavanagh getting hit/pulled off the ball and referee gives 2 yellow cards  >:(  .Horrible from Morgan roaring in O'Hanlon ear. Is that a black card offence?

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tipperary 15/7/17??
« on: July 15, 2017, 06:53:36 PM »
Best team won
Not sure why Tipp crowd are annoyed
One point from play in second half

In the last 10 minutes when Tipp ran at armagh there was only 3 things happened, and none in Tipp's favour:

1. Cynical direct fouls were met with yellow instead of black.
2. Cynical off the ball fouls were ignored.
3. When no foul was made, the ref invented one in case an overlap formed.

Fair play to armagh for creating the lead. But the referee is the reason they protected it.

He's a poor referee. Why do Croke Park reward him with more games? He seems to be on televised games every week.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Armagh v Tipperary 15/7/17??
« on: July 15, 2017, 06:49:19 PM »
FT Tipperary 1-15 Armagh 1-17. Ref was bad for both teams and over the course of the game the best team won.

Agree. Tipp didn't have the bench and Quinlivan clearly not match fit. He usually give a dig out around the middle. His presence was missed there in Cork game and today. Niall Grimley hit some nice scores. Is he a son of John Grimley?

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Gavin has done well to cause problems for O'Neill with the match ups if the Dublin team lines up as it is. I'm less confident again.
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Kilkenny may end up free, Mannion will get a run on Doyle who will be needed to mop up in front of O'Gara. Con O'Callaghan at wing forward will either drag Ollie Lyons out or there will be a mismatch in pace with Johnny Byrne.

That team won't start

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GAA Discussion / Re: Clare v Mayo Round 3A Qualifier
« on: July 10, 2017, 09:38:19 AM »
Anyone have a link or a GIF od the Harrison incident?

It cant have been that bad?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgv135Ee9Vc

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GAA Discussion / Re: Clare v Mayo Round 3A Qualifier
« on: July 09, 2017, 09:34:53 AM »
Mayo were always going to win. Clare didn't have the bench or fitness to sustain the first half pace. If had converted a couple of their goal chances could have been a different game. Mayo were more streetwise too. Martin McMahon hit with closed fist 3/4 times tried to play on whereas any contact with Colm Boyle he made sure to jump to ground and highlight to match officials. Jamie Malone continuously blocked off ball by Keegan. He be better rolling around the ground like Diarmuid O'Connor. Dublin, Kerry and Mayo are the best football teams but are streets ahead in cynical play too.

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Hurling Discussion / Re: Hurling Championship 2017
« on: July 09, 2017, 09:24:09 AM »
Cork beat Tipp in the minor this evening in front of official attendance of 8,142!!
That's a phenomenal crowd for a minor game on a Monday evening.
And word on the street is that Thurles will be full on Sunday with over 70% clad in the blood & bandages. Expectation is high down south.

Munster final sold out allegedly.

Did wee Pat Fitz make a balls of the ticket allocation in Clare. He only asked for 1400 I read somewhere.

Cork have got their gander up and their hurlers carry a (fair weather) support that only the Dublin footballers could compete with. The GAA coffers will want to see them in Croke Park in August.

Heard that too. Definitely wouldn't have happened if Davy Fitz was still manager.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Dubs v Westmeath 25 June
« on: July 05, 2017, 09:54:14 PM »
Speaking of red lines...

No one from outside  seems able to accept that at the moment Dublin have a batch of players that are once in a lifetime talented.

The fact that Aer Lingus sponsors them doesnt make Cluxton the player he is.

The likes of him and a few others will never come around again.

They will (started already) fade and whats coming down the line is no where near as special - Kildare are already beating Dublin at underage.

Arrra, g’wan outa that! ;D
No one from the inside seems to accept that the same “once in a lifetime players talented players” got stuffed in the Leinster semi final in 2010 by the most piss-poor Meath team of all time - an embarrassment to the great Meath warriors that went before them. Remember they became Leinster champions thanks to a certain Mr. Sludden. Prior to that game Dublin had clocked up a string of Leinsters but were not serious AI contenders in any of them.
In the wake of that defeat, the “Blue Flag” initiative was undertaken and the rest is history by now. Many of those who played on that fateful day against Meath are still chugging away and if you count in those who have retired since, the number who went on to starting bagging Celtic Crosses in 2011 and subsequent years  covers just about everyone who lost that game.
So much for the talent of the players.
If talent alone was all that was needed, why are Dublin spending so much on team preparation?
Sure, I’ve heard the mantra that once those super players retire, they can never be replaced and Dublin will slip back into the pack once again.
Tell me, where have McCaffrey, McCarthy, Small, Fenton, Kilkenny and Costello come from? They were hardly found under a stone, were they?

Them players were already on the scene before the Blue Wave initiative which had nothing to do with Meath result. McCarthy was on bench in 2010,McCaffrey, Kilkenny, Small were first year minors, Costello was on 16s. Gilroy tweaked the training that year to peak later in season. The back door wins against Armagh and Tyrone especially gave the team huge confidence to bring us to the next level.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Clare v Mayo Round 3A Qualifier
« on: July 04, 2017, 06:47:53 PM »
Ok lets be done with the Plámásing!

Clare won two games in the National League - Down and Cork.

Drew with Derry away.

They lost four in the League - Galway, Kildare, Fermanagh and Meath. Bar the Kildare game, Clare got some good beatings in some of those games.

Clare only survived Division 2 on Goal difference.

Clare beat Limerick by a point this year in the Munster Championship and were beat by six by 14 man Kerry in the second half.

Clare beat Laois who played the last 25 minutes with 14 men.

Clare biggest win of the past 15 months was beating Roscommon. A Roscommon team who had six days to recover from a hiding from Galway.

This is not putting Clare down, their heads are up presently and will be a formidable threat, but lets not lose the run of where they are at!

Clare have achieved greatly against the odds over last 4 years under Colm Collins who inherited a group of players that had little underage success compared to the hurlers. This season they lost 5/6 from last year panel so its a miracle they stayed in Division 2 and to progress in qualifiers working off a small pool of 21/22 players.

Can you name the 5 or 6 players because looking at last and this years reports they seem to have retained more or less the same 20 plus players.

Shane McGrath
Shane Hickey
Enda Coughlan
Pat Burke
Podge Collins

Alan O'Neill,Jack O'Dea,Sean Haugh,Declan McMahon,Sean O'Donoghue,Damien Burke and Martin O'Leary were on panel also gone. Liam Markham, John Hayes, Ciaran Russell and Shane Brennan are back this year. Apart from John Hayes none of the bench against Laois has started a senior championship game for Clare

Thanks. Like every county not in the running for the All Ireland have a lost a number of players from their panel however it seems they have only lost a few starters from last years All Ireland quarter final.


V Laois last Saturday

Joe Hayes; Dean Ryan, Kevin Harnett, Gordon Kelly; Pierce Lillis , Sean Collins, Martin McMahon; Ciaran Russell, Gary Brennan; Cathal O'Connor, Jamie Malone, Cian O'Dea; Eoin Cleary, David Tubridy, Keelan Sexton


V Kerry in the All Ireland quarter final in 2016.

J Hayes; S Hickey, K Harnett, D Ryan; M McMahon, G Kelly, C O'Dea; G Brennan, C O'Connor; S Collins, P Collins, E Cleary; J Malone, D Tubridy, P Lillis.


Keelan Sexton for Podge Collins and Ciaran Russell for Shane Hickey the only changes to their first 15.

Football is a 21 man game and the lack of options on bench will cost Clare. Most games their subs have only been used in last 5-10 minutes. In 10 games between championship and league none of subs have scored.It still been a good season for Clare football regardless of Saturday result.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Clare v Mayo Round 3A Qualifier
« on: July 04, 2017, 04:30:52 PM »
Ok lets be done with the Plámásing!

Clare won two games in the National League - Down and Cork.

Drew with Derry away.

They lost four in the League - Galway, Kildare, Fermanagh and Meath. Bar the Kildare game, Clare got some good beatings in some of those games.

Clare only survived Division 2 on Goal difference.

Clare beat Limerick by a point this year in the Munster Championship and were beat by six by 14 man Kerry in the second half.

Clare beat Laois who played the last 25 minutes with 14 men.

Clare biggest win of the past 15 months was beating Roscommon. A Roscommon team who had six days to recover from a hiding from Galway.

This is not putting Clare down, their heads are up presently and will be a formidable threat, but lets not lose the run of where they are at!

Clare have achieved greatly against the odds over last 4 years under Colm Collins who inherited a group of players that had little underage success compared to the hurlers. This season they lost 5/6 from last year panel so its a miracle they stayed in Division 2 and to progress in qualifiers working off a small pool of 21/22 players.

Can you name the 5 or 6 players because looking at last and this years reports they seem to have retained more or less the same 20 plus players.

Shane McGrath
Shane Hickey
Enda Coughlan
Pat Burke
Podge Collins

Alan O'Neill,Jack O'Dea,Sean Haugh,Declan McMahon,Sean O'Donoghue,Damien Burke and Martin O'Leary were on panel also gone. Liam Markham, John Hayes, Ciaran Russell and Shane Brennan are back this year. Apart from John Hayes none of the bench against Laois has started a senior championship game for Clare

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General discussion / Re: Bray Wanderers
« on: July 04, 2017, 02:40:46 PM »
As long as John Delaney gets €400k+ per year f**k the domestic game, the problem child of the FAI.

Yours in sport

Subbie
Life member Monaghan Utd.

Delaney and Fran Gavin can do what they like. How the hell did Bray get a licence from the FAI? The league is a laughing stock yet again as clubs continue to spend beyond their means.

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GAA Discussion / Re: Clare v Mayo Round 3A Qualifier
« on: July 04, 2017, 09:40:49 AM »
Ok lets be done with the Plámásing!

Clare won two games in the National League - Down and Cork.

Drew with Derry away.

They lost four in the League - Galway, Kildare, Fermanagh and Meath. Bar the Kildare game, Clare got some good beatings in some of those games.

Clare only survived Division 2 on Goal difference.

Clare beat Limerick by a point this year in the Munster Championship and were beat by six by 14 man Kerry in the second half.

Clare beat Laois who played the last 25 minutes with 14 men.

Clare biggest win of the past 15 months was beating Roscommon. A Roscommon team who had six days to recover from a hiding from Galway.

This is not putting Clare down, their heads are up presently and will be a formidable threat, but lets not lose the run of where they are at!

Clare have achieved greatly against the odds over last 4 years under Colm Collins who inherited a group of players that had little underage success compared to the hurlers. This season they lost 5/6 from last year panel so its a miracle they stayed in Division 2 and to progress in qualifiers working off a small pool of 21/22 players.

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