PuC and the Liam Miller Fundraiser

[Rossfan]

Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.

[Dinny Breen]

some #sportslaw  advice on Liam Miller event : prob no need to wait for a GAA Congress, s5 1(a) of GAA Guide could give Central Council discretion to sanction use of PuiC "for purpose not in conflict with Aims" of GAA & one in line with EU commission state aid decision on 30m.
6:43 AM - 20 Jul 2018

https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1020303179345522689

[Baile Brigín 2]

Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.

The FAI have both public liability and player insurance. Thats absolutely not a reason to reject the request

[Syferus]

Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.

Your attempts at whatsbouting around the GAA stopping a charity event at a publicly funded ground passed the utterly inane and ridiculous pages ago.

[Rossfan]

1 I never said was
2 - is FAI running the match?
3 - Does their insurance indemnify property owners where a game under their aegis takes place on someone else's property.
I'm still curious as to why  you are posting so much on this topic and hardly ever on anything else.

[larryin89]

Tad confused here , how can the GAA break the rules ? Would that not just lead to chaos ?

[macdanger2]

Of course the GAA shouldn't be forced into doing anything they don't want to, rules are rules and they have their rules and all that.
As rules go though it's a pretty stupid one imo, also I doubt it would take very much or have much opposition if they were to bend the rules a little this time and make an exception.
There are some who are turning this into a soccer v Gaa debate. This is not a soccer event it's a charity event.
One tool on the radio this morning start going in about the Queen and the Union Jack and kept calling soccer a Brit sport and how no Brit sport should be played in PuC.
We're all Irish men at the end of the day,so was Liam Miller.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense or decency would know the right thing for the GAA to do would be to bend the rules on this occasion.

Totally agree. If you can have American football and concerts at GAA stadia why not a charity event. GAA are a joke at times

How does American Football get away with being held in Croker actually?

Would have thought that this could have been classified as a charity event rather than a sporting event and been allowed to go ahead

[omaghjoe]

There was a series of charity soccer matches played by Omagh Town in the wake of the 98 bomb.
Much the same debate was had about playing it in Healy Park, Omagh Town in the end withdrew their application and it was played in their ground.....they actually ended up being the Grab Alls.

[larryin89]

Of course the GAA shouldn't be forced into doing anything they don't want to, rules are rules and they have their rules and all that.
As rules go though it's a pretty stupid one imo, also I doubt it would take very much or have much opposition if they were to bend the rules a little this time and make an exception.
There are some who are turning this into a soccer v Gaa debate. This is not a soccer event it's a charity event.
One tool on the radio this morning start going in about the Queen and the Union Jack and kept calling soccer a Brit sport and how no Brit sport should be played in PuC.
We're all Irish men at the end of the day,so was Liam Miller.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense or decency would know the right thing for the GAA to do would be to bend the rules on this occasion.

Totally agree. If you can have American football and concerts at GAA stadia why not a charity event. GAA are a joke at times

How does American Football get away with being held in Croker actually?

Would have thought that this could have been classified as a charity event rather than a sporting event and been allowed to go ahead

It's not croker they're asking for otherwise sure wouldn't the Aviva be the venue , surely ?

[CornUladh02]

The latest GAA statement on this matter makes a bad situation worse!

[GalwayBayBoy]

The latest GAA statement on this matter makes a bad situation worse!

Badly misjudged the tone.

[Main Street]

some #sportslaw  advice on Liam Miller event : prob no need to wait for a GAA Congress, s5 1(a) of GAA Guide could give Central Council discretion to sanction use of PuiC "for purpose not in conflict with Aims" of GAA & one in line with EU commission state aid decision on 30m.
6:43 AM - 20 Jul 2018

https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1020303179345522689

That professor of sports law doesn't have much legal sense, perhaps has a short attention span or just can't connect  dots.
5.1.b makes it crystal clear that
"Grounds controlled by Association units shall not be used or permitted to be used, for Horse Racing, Greyhound Racing, or for Field Games others than those sanctioned by Central Council."

Addendum notes to article 5.1 make it clear what powers the CC have in 5.1.A and further define the powers of discretion the CC has.
  It is also clear that only congress can empower the CC to act any differently from the clear wording used in the constitution.

What the cork county board could have done is defy  the GAA constitution and risk the penalty.
"that body (county board) shall be subject to suspension or fine, as deemed appropriate."
What penalty could be imposed?  A slap on the wrist?

[Ball Hopper]

some #sportslaw  advice on Liam Miller event : prob no need to wait for a GAA Congress, s5 1(a) of GAA Guide could give Central Council discretion to sanction use of PuiC "for purpose not in conflict with Aims" of GAA & one in line with EU commission state aid decision on 30m.
6:43 AM - 20 Jul 2018

https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1020303179345522689

That professor of sports law doesn't have much legal sense, perhaps has a short attention span or just can't connect  dots.
5.1.b makes it crystal clear that
"Grounds controlled by Association units shall not be used or permitted to be used, for Horse Racing, Greyhound Racing, or for Field Games others than those sanctioned by Central Council."

Addendum notes to article 5.1 make it clear what powers the CC have in 5.1.A and further define the powers of discretion the CC has.
  It is also clear that only congress can empower the CC to act any differently from the clear wording used in the constitution.

What the cork county board could have done is defy  the GAA constitution and risk the penalty.
"that body (county board) shall be subject to suspension or fine, as deemed appropriate."
What penalty could be imposed?  A slap on the wrist?

Fine them a tenner.

[manfromdelmonte]

some #sportslaw  advice on Liam Miller event : prob no need to wait for a GAA Congress, s5 1(a) of GAA Guide could give Central Council discretion to sanction use of PuiC "for purpose not in conflict with Aims" of GAA & one in line with EU commission state aid decision on 30m.
6:43 AM - 20 Jul 2018

https://twitter.com/sportslawMELB/status/1020303179345522689

That professor of sports law doesn't have much legal sense, perhaps has a short attention span or just can't connect  dots.
5.1.b makes it crystal clear that
"Grounds controlled by Association units shall not be used or permitted to be used, for Horse Racing, Greyhound Racing, or for Field Games others than those sanctioned by Central Council."

Addendum notes to article 5.1 make it clear what powers the CC have in 5.1.A and further define the powers of discretion the CC has.
  It is also clear that only congress can empower the CC to act any differently from the clear wording used in the constitution.

What the cork county board could have done is defy  the GAA constitution and risk the penalty.
"that body (county board) shall be subject to suspension or fine, as deemed appropriate."
What penalty could be imposed?  A slap on the wrist?

Fine them a tenner.

Throw Cork out of all competitions for 10 years
As a county they have a lot of weight due to number of clubs
They have been against a lot of the reforms of the GAA

[LilySavage]

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Isn't landowner responsible in law unless they're specifically indemnified by the Insurance taken out by event organisers.
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The FAI have both public liability and player insurance. Thats absolutely not a reason to reject the request


You sure about that?