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#1
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
September 02, 2017, 10:29:51 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on September 02, 2017, 08:34:47 AM
I wasn't at it, our club had 3 games on at the same time, so I watched our minors progress to the final of the minor b hurling final... cracking game, was updated by Antrim twitter and others at the game... seems to been an error stricken game, 5 goals!! That will surely boost Lamhs confidence been 25 years since they last beat us... good luck to them. Cargin stumbled but havevthe experience to get out on top!

A long time but not 25 years. Lamhs won qf 1999 by 8 or 9 but your sentiment is true
#2
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 08, 2016, 05:17:04 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on October 08, 2016, 02:15:00 AM
Quote from: country bumpkin on October 07, 2016, 03:51:36 PM
Cargin do look forward to meeting Galls in the final, rather than the Hannahstown.
They do have a monkey on their back and look to getting rid of the same.
St Galls are a fine team but they are most certainly on the wane and a few within the ranks look out of sorts in the semi struggling to get past a side short on personnel.....and indeed needing a couple of debateable calls to get over the line.
Of course our boys may well fall flat on their faces, but Galls really depend on this rather than their supremacy if they are to prevail
Cargin with the JB factor to gain the day on a pitch they fancy.
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Missing players?? All teams miss players that will make a difference ffs!! If we'd a fully fit operational team I'd say we'd beat Cargin, we don't have Aidso or cj  or Terry O'Neill !! Cargin have a hoodoo to get over and at 5/6 that is a super bet, for who?

As i say st galls can say they are missing terry and aidso who are two class acts. But a team like that should be able to cope with that. I would imagine losing paddy cunningham, mark jordan, declan stranney and michael hynes would surely effect the lamhs more? I cant call final
#3
Antrim / Re: Antrim Football Thread
October 07, 2016, 11:26:21 AM
St galls experience told in the end. Must say im at odds with the notion of 14 men behind the ball win the Lamhs hit 10 wides in the first half. Lamhs need to make sure they dont waste the opportunity to win one. But the last 2 years they have been handcuffed. Last year they lost Michael Hynes to study, Ryan Stranney, Declan Stranney and Terry Mccrudden to operations whilst Paddy Cunningham and Ryan Murray played whilst injured as did Declan Lynch who got a double hip operation shortly after. On wednesday they were missing Paddy Cunningham whilst Declan Stranney is suffering from complications to his surgery and Michael Hynes was unavailable as was Marc Jordan. Ryan Murray despite his efforts was also injured.It was Ryan Stranneys first game in 18 months So would judge them better when at full tilt as its hard to gauge where they are at. As for the final cargin need to make sure they get a good start and not let galls play the game on their terms. Also it must be noted that it was 2 of the unsong lads who turned the game. Brendan Bradley won three or four frees from running at lamhs whereas Mark Kelly won 4 break balls from kickouts at crucial times. One last note you could hear cargin men moaning that the ref gave some soft calls to st galls. The bigger teams in general do get those calls but he also gave 3 penalties against the lamhs in last years final. Thoughts?
#4
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 02, 2016, 04:21:52 PM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 10:23:16 AM
Quote from: cfclg on April 02, 2016, 09:37:28 AM
Quote from: MoChara on April 02, 2016, 08:46:58 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on April 02, 2016, 08:11:02 AM
Quote from: paddyjohn on April 02, 2016, 08:03:11 AM
The Antrim Hurlers can't be mentioned in the same way as Cathal McCarron.

Maybe is because of who is in involved RedDog wants it swept under the carpet. Those who are guilty should be suspended from both club and county.

Possibly the real answer there PJ

Now come on lads RedDog would never try and defend the indefensible for personal reasons

Maybe it was the Dog himself in William Hill placing big money on a London victory...........
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Can of worms opened there!


1. The Cathal McCarron situation revolved around a serious gambling problem. The point I am making is that people didn't turn there back on him as most seem to be proposing here
2. I love the Gaa but if these people did as alleged this means they either didn't care or have reached a point where they have a serious problem which has led to them letting their clubs counties team mates and friends down. Yes punish them but if they have a problem it is more important to try and help them. If they have problems what does it say about the GAA if they don't try and help them??
3. It doesn't impact on me at club or county level whatever the outcome. It just saddens me as an antrim man but have seen the damage gambling is having in communities and in the Gaa and see the human being as more imp.
4. Would never gamble in William Hill and get the feeling people think they know who I am. My club wouldn't be affected if rumours are true

I am trying to be constructive. I see tackling gambling problems as a bigger issue. The only thing I would ask people in the know is are the rumours true that the players and representatives were given £200 each expensives for the London weekend? I don't want people out of pocket but surely this put them in pocket?/
#5
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 02, 2016, 01:21:04 AM
Quote from: NAG1 on April 02, 2016, 01:18:23 AM
Seriously are yout for real?

You don't have issue with me posting on antrim hurling now do you. its simply an opinion
#6
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
April 02, 2016, 01:04:35 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 26, 2016, 11:46:09 PM
You must have some love in here......you don't defend yourself with a dirty Joe strike, am I clear on that?? No one will defend those actions, ever, that's simple enough for you to understand?? I would never defend the actions of our players doing same thing, end of......

I spoke to one lad who got red carded, he deserved it for his actions, job done!! Move on and stop defending the indefensible please
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You are entitled to an opinion, but 'am I clear on that' and 'that's simple enough for you to understand' , please don't talk to anyone never mind me like that. You are just someone posting an opinion like the rest of us. Because you come from ng doesn't make you better, although that does seem to be the attitude at milltown. Talk to people not down to them.

Re the management the executive have a massive job on their hands. My view is that we don't throw the baby out with the bath water. We have the time for a new executive in cooperation with the clubs to conduct a root and branch review of hurling in antrim. Not just at senior level for there seems to be a lack of identity and structure permeating right down to the development squads. Lets also use Justin McCarthys knowledge whilst we can for some suggestions. Let the players go to the clubs. Let the u21s step up now and use train twice weekly and use c ring as build up for the u21. Gavan Duffy and Paul Graham should remain and get someone to oversee it be it Justin himself or perhaps Aidan Hamill or Seamus Elliott

Re the betting, Im angry as well and at one stage was for treating them akin to the Salem witches. But what I must say is that we have seen the damage  gambling addictions can have. Find out why these lads did it. Are they struggling etc and see can we get them help. Tyrone never turned their back on Cathal McCarron so my view would be to see if there are problems and then deal with it. Thoughts??

#7
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 26, 2016, 11:20:36 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 09:09:21 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Ok..let me see, he damaged his ac joint coming up to xmas, he returned and held is place through the pre season competitions. He then had problems with the shoulder again and apparently he started training with the fire brigade. As far as I am aware PJ has got him on a program to build his shoulder up. He couldn't go to the last two games anyway, he missed the Carlow game while away on a break and he was on shift during the London weekend. He was also tied up you recall with the u21 ulster football. PJ gave him leave to play in that and games clashed with the national league. He apparently is still eager and keen to get back

So yeah you proved my point right there, no hurling performances to talk about for one reason or other.

Why not let the lad get some hurling done and then come back on and talk about those then.

you are a tad pompous and patronising aren't you. As I said I merely wished to defend someone.
#8
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 26, 2016, 08:56:06 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:46:04 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point

My last post on this, regardless of what happened I would actually rather hear something about some of his hurling performances to date those have been sparse.
Ok..let me see, he damaged his ac joint coming up to xmas, he returned and held is place through the pre season competitions. He then had problems with the shoulder again and apparently he started training with the fire brigade. As far as I am aware PJ has got him on a program to build his shoulder up. He couldn't go to the last two games anyway, he missed the Carlow game while away on a break and he was on shift during the London weekend. He was also tied up you recall with the u21 ulster football. PJ gave him leave to play in that and games clashed with the national league. He apparently is still eager and keen to get back
#9
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 26, 2016, 08:39:09 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:28:55 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them

One person had  a go at your man for a slap that he handid out in a row in a pre season game. No one gives a toss and then you launch into pages and pages of a defence when no one cares.

You were the one to drag up last year. Point is if he wants to slap people in a row people are going to talk about it. So he has the option to behave himself or put up with people having an opinion.

You on here defending him ad nauseam when no one cares is creating more of a story about a non event than the event itself.
Decent point lad and accepted but its strange in  a 'row' there was only one slap.. I didn't bring last year up. one of your pals here called him the controversial one lol. behave himself, he looked after himself as all should in a row, but I take your point
#10
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 26, 2016, 08:21:04 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 26, 2016, 08:14:48 PM
Jess man give it a rest and change the record  ::)

I would be glad to but don't think its right people should be having a go at one person constantly, unless you agree with that approach?? I am simply responding not instigating it so have a go at them
#11
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 26, 2016, 06:29:50 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 25, 2016, 11:38:01 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 25, 2016, 11:02:30 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Obviously this isn't meant for me as I never mentioned anyone's names or initial's you've brought up more and mentioned more in your last few posts... More power to your elbow... Oh wait a player from your club dirty joe'd a player from our club on the elbow and give him 8 stitches... He didn't nearly have a sore knee bit ended up with a nasty dirty stroke.... But hey defend whoever you want

I used initials, ok maybe I shouldn't have but I'm sure everyone reading this post knows who it was anyhow. Supposed comments, backing something up which is outright disgusting just goes to show you mentality. As for those other names you've mentioned? Care to share?

Once more, a presumption of innocence doesn't apply here. Somebody said he said therefore you assume its up to him to prove he didn't say it. Was there any investigation by the county? Because surely if such a comment was made there would be ramifications??? Were there any?? It is the same thing with the Naomh Gall man a few years ago. People swore he said it but rightly so unless people could prove it then that's the end of it. Everyone has let it go. Also I am not sure if a normal person would know that it was the person who initialled that carried out said stroke. Has he a history of it? Has he had a discipline problem growing up:?? Has he been guilty of dirty strokes in the past. No that's why you were wrong. What do you want this person to do. Do you think he should come out ala Bill Clinton and make a statement on last years allegation or last weeks fight. Incidents happen all the time and that's why I through some initials out. Even the 'so called' victim last week through it about and by all accounts hes down to earth and civil. There seem to be an agenda on this board. Its purpose should be constructive. Not anonoymous slandering. If I intend on besmirching someones name I will put my name up. I have no need to now as the fight last week was just that. A fight. One last point. Sambo got a massive ban for an extremely dangerous and wild action years ago by all accounts. Did he have a name for himself? No and he shouldn't. Nor should a young lad who had his choice of both county codes this year.
#12
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 25, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
Quote from: NAG1 on March 25, 2016, 10:42:15 PM
Quote from: reddog on March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed

Thanks mb  ;) ;D ::) 8) :o
nope he doesn't have an account
#13
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 25, 2016, 10:30:17 PM
Quote from: Sideline watcher on March 23, 2016, 01:06:32 AM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 08:03:44 PM
Quote from: Leftbackno4 on March 22, 2016, 06:34:32 PM
Some big talk from St Galls  –Best team in Belfast (Rossa will be gutted to hear this!), putting boys on their hole, controversial players and everything as usual was the Johnnies fault, I'm looking forward to their next game already :D !

No mention of the cowardly and vicious pull that caused a serious injury at the start of the game when the ref only gave a yellow and St Galls were that embarrassed they substituted the offender?  Next up was a St Galls player who 'clotheslined' another player and the ref  awarded the  free but instead of showing a standard yellow card asked him not to do it again.

To be fair to the players, the rest game was played as you would expect a local derby to be played and St Galls were good value for their lead. I think the frustration of the petty fouling in the final few minutes when St Johns went looking for a goal, lead to the bit of a 'shemozzle' and the ref just got bored waiting on the sides to separate and pick up their handbags. Done no one any favours in the long run and everyone playing in a hurling game should have the expectation of being able to go to work the next day.

You didn't see the sarcasm in my post but hey, I expect nothing else ;D.... That petty foul at the end which gave one of our players 8 stitches across the elbow, you think it was ok??

I was at the game, yes there was a dirty stroke which led to the galls man being subbed but then there were tackles on both sides of the fence that were card worthy. But to try and defend young MB, who is getting a name for himself is absolutely shocking! What he done was disgusting and wasn't needed. A great local derby ruined by two dirty strokes which led to the scuffle. Shame on the referee for leaving the field and shame on both sidelines for getting involved.

It is strange that you deliberately put someone's initials on this board. He doesn't give a toss what people write because the truth is clear. He was involved in an alleged incident last year. never proven, but people jumped on the bandwagon. So in 22 years he was alleged to have said something and was involved in last weeks incident. 2 things warrants you saying he's getting a name for himself. As I recall there were serious allegations made against a naomh gall footballer a while back. It couldn't be proven one way or another but yet this person was never attacked. The content of said allegation was a lot worse than mb's supposed comments last year. Does McC or PS have a name for themselves now after being involved last week?? No and nor they should. I think a bit of perspective is needed
#14
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 25, 2016, 10:22:18 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 22, 2016, 01:28:49 PM
Quote from: Last Man on March 22, 2016, 01:13:37 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 22, 2016, 09:29:42 AM
:)

You North Antrim boys can't produce a pre-season Feis quite like this!

:)

Maybe its just me but if any of this true the perpetrators should be ashamed of themselves for demeaning the memory of Jim Nelson. It will be interesting to see how the CCC handle it.

Exactly. .... I heard one of our lads put a controversial johnnies lad on his hole and he reacted by dirty joe'ing him... Melee next and then the game was abandon or the ref ran away.... Either way Last Man you're correct in how this is demeaning of Jims memorial tournament

It was unfortunate that there was a few handbags but it didn't demean the tournament. Jim would not have wanted anybody to hold back and bend the knee or to play the game as an exhibition. Jim would have wanted both teams goin at each other. It's just as well that this 'controversial' lad is better than a lot of us and takes this with a pinch of salt. He doesn't let it get to him. It's This a lad who has won all-Ireland feile, won an o'keefe cup as well as multiple minors and u21s in both codes, and represented his county with great distinction in an all Ireland final. He has went to uni and is in a great job. So many good points yet you have labelled him based on one alleged incident. Does this young lad deserve to be tainted? Is sambo a 'controversial' one. no we don't let his career to be defined by what was a shocking act and nor it should be. Are st pauls and cargin 'controversial' clubs after their riot was shown all over Ireland. No we let sleeping dogs lie. I think you need to stop this rubbish with this lad.
#15
Antrim / Re: ANTRIM HURLING
March 25, 2016, 10:09:31 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 10:57:30 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 08:50:20 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 08:00:11 PM
Quote from: Milltown Row2 on March 21, 2016, 12:21:54 PM
Quote from: btdtgtt on March 21, 2016, 09:29:04 AM
Jim Nelson Cup - St Galls V St Johns.
Any clarity on events MR2?

Seen the photos on clubs webpage and FB but no result!! I'm guessing with the Johnnies being the best team in Belfast that they won.. but great idea for a cup and I hope it gets bigger and better!!

certainly if run during the Feis cup period then it would facilitate the Belfast ones... I'll get the score later

Seems we were winning by 2 before the johnnies got the game abandon !! That's an auld Sarsfields tactic  :o. So that makes us the best team in Belfast!!

Ref report will be interesting  :)

Why what have heard?? Surely the referee seen what happened?? No? Apparently one of our lads ended up with 8 stitches' from a dirty  strike from behind.... And the referee apparently ran away!! Not sure as I wasn't there so only going on hearsay which is silly, no way would a referee run away... Who was the referee??

By all accounts the accounts been given seem to be quite selective. There were dirty strokes by Naomh Gall from the outset. Jim Peoples near obtained serious knee damage from one such stroke early on whilst the fella who ended up with an unfortunate knock wasn't slow in coming forward himself. Naomh Gall need to realise that they are no different than any club because of their past achievements. They cannot swing the stick as they wish and expect to be protected when teams fight fire with fire. It was a typical early season game. people trying to lay down a marker and it was a derby. Don't throw the baby out with the bath water.