Gerry Adams lifted!

[Jeepers Creepers]

Fleggers on the ball again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdeKEbTQt0s&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Main Street]

Yes muppet. I'd agree- that's what sf are attempting ( and succeeding) to portray McGuinness as.

But that's what cracks me up!
Adams was distrusted by any serious IRA man during the conflict and indeen even now as he was 'not one of them'
Mcguinness we know was more Castro than Mandela.

But now it's Adams who gets all the bad press and so on- and he actually did feck all wrong himself in the war!

A lot of republicans don't like Adams because he made a lot of money selling books and has a couple of holiday homes - whereas most others ploughed that money back into the party etc
A lot would be happy to see him go.
The next leader will bring the party on massively.

I laugh at inda when he has a go at Mary Lou about IRA , deaths, sf track record ( rem it was the IRA not sf!!!) etc. - inda prob knows more IRA men than she does!!

Next leader if Gerry does 'have' to go...
Mary Lou
Conor Murphy
Mcguinness ( unlikely)
Caoimhin o'C
Pearse

Apart from McGuinness who is now like Mandela/ Dalai Lama/ ghandi
The rest have no IRA 'baggage' and south of border will certainly make big increases in voters

In the north not much will change - might be a few voters got from moderate 'castle' Catholics.
Unionists despise Adams as he is the figurehead that crumbled their totalitarian apartheid-esque pseudo statelet.

Adams could go down for something. Not the first time people will testify somewhat innaccurately - though I dont think it will be the mcconville issues he is done for. Tax evasion possibly?

The Brit gov are currently interested as the norths politicians and their votes in Westminster are crucial again as the English parties are back to being close again.
In past labour and then conservative govs, they were landslides so northern block vote didn't matter. It does now so Brit gov needs to keep in with unionist voters so will lend a hand in Adams issue for their own political parliament voting gain

This whole episode intrigues me at least. Anyhow sf will come out better off either way!

Maybe he has a hidden bank account somewhere but there's not much evidence of it. the Adams holiday home in Donegal cost about 60k and has been remortgaged a year ago because he couldn't make the payments.
If anyone begrudges the Adams' family, a mortgaged to the hilt holiday home, that problem is not with Gerry.

[johnneycool]

Mary Lou isn't particularly popular. SF were succeeding in spite of their leadership.

With the way FF and FG along with their coalition partners have ruled in the south over the last two decades it should be no wonder SF have gained ground, the next step is to show that they've real alternatives in economic policies than the other two that is an option for the middle ground in the south.

Mary Lou and Pearse may be better placed to do that and still probably not weaken their strength in the north with wee Marty in deputy mode.

Gerry was an exceptional leader during the hostile years in the north and his media persona help garner support for Sinn Fein outside the local arena as he always come across as measured and reasonable even when faced with very partisan, hostile audiences and TV show panels. He must have had the hide of a rhino.

[orangeman]

Gerry was good alright. A brass neck helped. He was well able to fight his corner especially when there was fighting going on.

But 16 years on from the GFA all unionists and other dark forces want to do is to rake up the past. It's one of the few sticks they have left to beat SF with.

Take those away and sure what gave they to moan about ?.

[stibhan]

Gerry was good alright. A brass neck helped. He was well able to fight his corner especially when there was fighting going on.

But 16 years on from the GFA all unionists and other dark forces want to do is to rake up the past. It's one of the few sticks they have left to beat SF with.

Take those away and sure what gave they to moan about ?.

I think on the flipside, if Gerry is proven innocent (and it seems, according to William Crawley, he has been/will be) then there really isn't anything that they can beat him with.

[orangeman]

Gerry was good alright. A brass neck helped. He was well able to fight his corner especially when there was fighting going on.

But 16 years on from the GFA all unionists and other dark forces want to do is to rake up the past. It's one of the few sticks they have left to beat SF with.

Take those away and sure what gave they to moan about ?.

I think on the flipside, if Gerry is proven innocent (and it seems, according to William Crawley, he has been/will be) then there really isn't anything that they can beat him with.

Shit sticks.

For those who don't want to accept he's innocent, there will always be the allegations surrounding Jean Mc Conville, the tapes  and his denials of membership etc.

[johnneycool]

Gerry was good alright. A brass neck helped. He was well able to fight his corner especially when there was fighting going on.

But 16 years on from the GFA all unionists and other dark forces want to do is to rake up the past. It's one of the few sticks they have left to beat SF with.

Take those away and sure what gave they to moan about ?.

Unionism has always maintained the moral high ground over Sinn Fein and the 'terrorists' who ruined their wee ideal statelet.
This moral high ground has been called into question with the likes of the historical enquiries, Bloody Sunday apologies, collusion and so on has eroded that somewhat so they're holding onto whatever bit of whataboutery they can.
Their claims of erosion of their culture and all else still gets a by ball by the main media outlets, but they're unionist as well, so its hardly surprising.

They chose to ignore Terence O'Neills utterances of treating catholics correctly and they'll behave like protestants then and still now.

[Hound]

I think on the flipside, if Gerry is proven innocent (and it seems, according to William Crawley, he has been/will be) then there really isn't anything that they can beat him with.

Luckily enough in UK and Ireland, he doesn't have to prove his innocence (as that may have caused some difficulty!).

However, he will be presumed innocent if they haven't enough evidence to charge/convict.