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sorry OTF that,s whay i put them lads on your post,,,'" " " , not stealing your thundedr just agreeing with you,, sorry if any offence caused,,, 

"On the management issue, I don't think the problem is who we get as manager, it's more who we get as panel members. We need to find a way to get committed lads on board who are prepared to have a few lean years while management try to build some sort of system that will improve our skills and attitudes. "

would totally agree Junior,,, would Glen Ryan be a taught,,, did great stuff up in Longford highly rated up there,,

Would be a great appointment if possible,, but I would like to see him ina dual-manager setup,, with one of the lads from the minor- glory years who are currently involved in football,, I think it would be very exciting,,,

On Helix & OTF's point, Any chance of coaxing Mick Dempsey ,,, He's been involved in a winning mentality, maybe as not an all-out manager but him with maybe one on the main leaders of the minor glory days, we need vision plus we need time to execute that vision, so I'd imagine all out power may be handed over,, Development, coaching, plus a collective thinking from all clubs & officials in the county,, it will benefit us all in the long run,,   Best of luck to the lads on Saturday, probably might just scrape it,, don't think there'll be much interest in battling the qualifiers, the writing is on the wall,,

Maybe the beheading of the Tom was still fresh in the minds,,

Which is it Arles or Killeen 

Carlow will still be tough, they'll give it a go and hopefully we'll pull away,, but looking at our situation in winning the sam maguire, i'd kinda agree with lads not joining the panel, the CB have done or tried to do anything to help improve football in this county ,, so maybe back to basic's might be a good thing, intall belief in ones own club and show what commitment is involved to become winners and what better place to do it than the club,, i'd rather a more competitve championship and show the young lads of the future that there is a future , than travel for 3 matches ( hopefully) and all say that we are in a good place, winning starts at home so get lads to think about 17th of march for a few years and then the rest will evolve

great to see  the Laois mentality about intercounty football.. wrap in cotton wool and place in an incubator.. they'll do us proud some day..
if  people are looking to get handy frees and not for the opposition to bully or intimate our players , the wait won't be long, Div 3 will be easier, and i don't think a championship mentality is going to appear before the Carlow game is upon us,
Sheean for all his limitations is committed, is perpared to win the dirty ball a place his body on the line, did Carroll's chance for the goal near the end of the second half not come from sheeans work , Kingstons red card correct , if  you run 10 M and half heartly throw both hands into a lads face and think alls well,it's time to go look at a few football games to understand the rules.. Evan was the player on the ground for this incident, commitment  V's skill who wins