The Fine Gael thread

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gallsman

Quote from: marty34 on March 27, 2024, 12:09:48 PM
Quote from: gallsman on March 27, 2024, 12:03:31 PMFormer AG
Former Minister for Justice
Former Tánaiste
Long time TD, current senator

Most importantly, massive gobshite. I've always thought of him as the southern, Fenian Jim Allister. Sees the 'ra everywhere he looks.

Ahh, voters rejected him then a 'job for the boys' case.

No, he was elected. Twice. For the university constituency it must be said, but elected nonetheless.

Itchy

Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

From the Bunker

Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change, 

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

Itchy

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

By you.

There's always the social democrats, independents who'll be far right if you want them to this election and far left the next one. Whatever suits. Then you can vote for the inbreds in the Far right parties so still plenty of choice for you.

seafoid

Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.
I wouldn't use the board as the basis for any political conclusion
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

From the Bunker

Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

By you.

There's always the social democrats, independents who'll be far right if you want them to this election and far left the next one. Whatever suits. Then you can vote for the inbreds in the Far right parties so still plenty of choice for you.

I don't have much time for the Far Right parties, but calling them inbreeds doesn't put those who call them that in a good light.
Sinn Fein have proven to be one of the weakest major opposition parties in a long time. Voting for them will be more of the same. Sinn Fein I'm afraid have lost their way. I suppose this was going to happen when there was no Cause to fight for anymore, and now they've naturally fallen in with the pack.

whitey

I guess it depends on what your definition of a far right party is

Some people regard Aontu as far right

Some people regard Aontu as center left

How would people on here categorize them?


marty34

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change, 

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

I think you're right. SF need to ask the hard questions on why, according to the recent opinion polls, that they're dropping 2 or 3 points.

Why are FG TD's opting out in their droves?

Why are FF lads going independent?

I think there'll be a good block of independents in the locals in early June.

Itchy

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 09:20:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

By you.

There's always the social democrats, independents who'll be far right if you want them to this election and far left the next one. Whatever suits. Then you can vote for the inbreds in the Far right parties so still plenty of choice for you.

I don't have much time for the Far Right parties, but calling them inbreeds doesn't put those who call them that in a good light.
Sinn Fein have proven to be one of the weakest major opposition parties in a long time. Voting for them will be more of the same. Sinn Fein I'm afraid have lost their way. I suppose this was going to happen when there was no Cause to fight for anymore, and now they've naturally fallen in with the pack.

Inbreds was quite restrained. Good for nothing useless cnuts without a braincell between them. They deserve nothing but ridicule and to be bet of the streets wherever they go. How's that.

weareros

Mary Lou now calling for Ireland to opt out of EU Migration Pact. The winds are blowing to the right and SF want their own far right vote back. Farage did always like them.

Eire90

#2650
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

By you.

There's always the social democrats, independents who'll be far right if you want them to this election and far left the next one. Whatever suits. Then you can vote for the inbreds in the Far right parties so still plenty of choice for you.
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 09:42:32 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 09:20:13 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 09:03:55 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on March 27, 2024, 08:52:12 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 27, 2024, 06:47:44 PM
Quote from: whitey on March 27, 2024, 03:23:55 PMWhether you like or dislike McDowell he argued points of law as it pertained to the failed referendums and what he said made all the sense in the world.

The govt tried to pull a fast one and it cost Varadkar his job

If I were to hazard a guess, "far right" (by the standards of this board) will get somewhere between 15-20% of first preference votes in the next General Election





Whitey, you might as well ask a dog to estimate how far it is to the moon than ask you to estimate first preference in votes in a southern election from America. I would say max 3% and will get no one elected as only the brain dead would vote for them and no one will transfer to them.

There are are large cohort of people who are not ''Far Right'' and all that jargon who will vote for certain principles these candidates stand for. There is a huge disconnect between the Major Parties and the Electorate. There will be many who will privately do a rebellious vote.

Sinn Fein are in bother. They have lost ground in the many disadvantaged areas they would have been sailing through.

SF are no longer seen as an alternative for change

I know I won't be voting for FF/FG/SF/Greens.

By you.

There's always the social democrats, independents who'll be far right if you want them to this election and far left the next one. Whatever suits. Then you can vote for the inbreds in the Far right parties so still plenty of choice for you.

I don't have much time for the Far Right parties, but calling them inbreeds doesn't put those who call them that in a good light.
Sinn Fein have proven to be one of the weakest major opposition parties in a long time. Voting for them will be more of the same. Sinn Fein I'm afraid have lost their way. I suppose this was going to happen when there was no Cause to fight for anymore, and now they've naturally fallen in with the pack.

Inbreds was quite restrained. Good for nothing useless cnuts without a braincell between them. They deserve nothing but ridicule and to be bet of the streets wherever they go. How's that.


And who will be doing the beating as dissident republican types and sinn fein types seem to be terrified of them and inla types seem to be terrified do and some are even agreeing with some of them the inla claim to be socialists but wont go after the so called far right.

Armagh18

Unfortunately theres a fair chunk of ordinary people with genuine concerns about immigration (fair few there will be a small bit racist too I'll admit) but they're by no stretch far right looneys. The danger is the far right looneys who are probably 0.001% can appeal to that more moderate chunk who have been let down the major parties and feel like they've no choice.

Rossfan

Quote from: weareros on March 27, 2024, 10:03:15 PMMary Lou now calling for Ireland to opt out of EU Migration Pact. The winds are blowing to the right and SF want their own far right vote back. Farage did always like them.

SF now opposing the hate speech Bill despite voting for it in the earlier stages.
Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

From the Bunker

Sinn Fein are proving they are just in the main a bunch of mostly elected nobodies who see which way the wind is blowing.

AustinPowers

Quote from: From the Bunker on March 28, 2024, 10:52:12 AMSinn Fein are proving they are just in the main a bunch of mostly elected nobodies who see which way the wind is blowing.

Isn't that the way with all parties?

Look at the post  office scandal in recent weeks.  Those people got no support  from government/politicians for years , then  after that  TV show airs, politicians are  tripping over each other to be seen to be apologising and  saying all the right things.