A5 WTC (New Road from Aughnacloy to Derry)

[oakleafgael]

This whole f**k up is political. I would bet my life that not one catholic is a member of that opposing group.

If you went to Mass on a Sunday in Omagh you would see some of the AA5A. Does it really matter what religion they are? Landowners and Business owners are within their rights to object and its up to the DRD to overcome their objections within the legislation.

[oakleafgael]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

[Walter Cronc]

But yet Larne and Ballymena will get new roundabouts and by-passes

[blewuporstuffed]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

Why not this section?
Is it just due to the fact that it connects with the South at Aughnacloy?

[oakleafgael]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

Why not this section?
Is it just due to the fact that it connects with the South at Aughnacloy?

The traffic count, it doesnt justify a dual carraigeway. A new single carraigeway would be sufficient.

[Walter Cronc]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

Why not this section?
Is it just due to the fact that it connects with the South at Aughnacloy?

The traffic count, it doesnt justify a dual carraigeway. A new single carraigeway would be sufficient.

I'm no transport engineer but surely by improving to Derry to Balygawley stretch you will encourage traffic on to this stretch of the road, thereby requiring the need for a dual? I just hope if it is single lane they have the sense to construct it wide enough so its just a case of introducing a central verge/barrier and changing the lanes when it comes to an upgrade.

[oakleafgael]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

Why not this section?
Is it just due to the fact that it connects with the South at Aughnacloy?

The traffic count, it doesnt justify a dual carraigeway. A new single carraigeway would be sufficient.

I'm no transport engineer but surely by improving to Derry to Balygawley stretch you will encourage traffic on to this stretch of the road, thereby requiring the need for a dual? I just hope if it is single lane they have the sense to construct it wide enough so its just a case of introducing a central verge/barrier and changing the lanes when it comes to an upgrade.

Even with the expected increased users from the improved road and traffic growth it wont meet the requirements for dualling. It didnt pass the Public Enquiry. A high quality single lane carraigeway will be enough, the worst stretch of the road to Aughnacloy was replaced when DBFO2 was completed.

[EC Unique]

The road will definitely be built. No doubt. The annoying bit is letting Danny Kennedy hold it up for a few years and adding tens of millions to the eventual cost but be under no illusions... The road will be built.

Im tempted to ask for your source for the blame laying at Danny Kennedy's door. Nothing at all to do with any politician that the road has not yet proceeded.

It's political and you know it.

Its 100% an indisputable fact that the only reason that the A5 isn't currently being constructed is due to the legal process finding that the DRD's Consultants failed to do their job properly to comply with the legislation.

Why do you think the legal process took part? It had all already been passed and work commenced but the group against the road (backed by unionist politicians) dug and dug for a reason to stop it. This never would have been near a court only for this group.

The legal process took place due to the objections of the umbrella group set up by the land owners, business owners and tree huggers, as it turned out the law was on their side. This group is nothing to do with any unionist political group. I agree that the only reason it ended up in court was due to them.

Do you think the road will go ahead?

In some shape of form sections of it will be completed. Cant ever see the Ballygawley to Aughnacloy section going ahead as proposed.

Why not this section?
Is it just due to the fact that it connects with the South at Aughnacloy?

The traffic count, it doesnt justify a dual carraigeway. A new single carraigeway would be sufficient.

I'm no transport engineer but surely by improving to Derry to Balygawley stretch you will encourage traffic on to this stretch of the road, thereby requiring the need for a dual? I just hope if it is single lane they have the sense to construct it wide enough so its just a case of introducing a central verge/barrier and changing the lanes when it comes to an upgrade.

Even with the expected increased users from the improved road and traffic growth it wont meet the requirements for dualling. It didnt pass the Public Enquiry. A high quality single lane carraigeway will be enough, the worst stretch of the road to Aughnacloy was replaced when DBFO2 was completed.

Agreed. Ballygawley to Aughnacloy is never really a problem where as Ballygawley to Omagh can be a nightmare. By-passing Omagh and Strabane would make the journey to Donegal/Derry much easier and at certain times would save a massive amount of time. Not to mention the lives that would be saved.

[armaghniac]

South of Ballygawley can be left for the moment and dealt with in conjunction with improvements in Co. Monaghan with one scheme bypassing Emyvale and Aughnacloy.

[armaghniac]

Mutterings in the Belly Telly that the 26 county contribution to this project might be coming back into view as things improve, a few Euro per 1000l of water should do the trick.

[armaghniac]

Some nice graphics here
http://www.a5wtc.com/Flythroughs--Proposed-Scheme-2016

[LeoMc]

Would brexit and the probable loss of EU funding for the York street interchange release additional executive funding for the non-EU funded A5 and A6?

[armaghniac]

There mightnt be as much money to go around generally.

[Hereiam]

So the Alternative A5 group (DUP/UU/OO backed group) have lodge another high court appeal against this road. It really does show that there is to be no progressive moves made west of the bann and certainly not if it so much as hints at a link between north and south.
Meanwhile serious accidents continue to happen and and people loose their life on this death trap of a road.

[OakleafCounty]

They've already been through this. I don't see how a second judicial review can even be entertained!! It's clearly an Orange agenda and I wonder who's financing them.