Boxing Thread

Started by bennydorano, November 04, 2007, 09:00:01 PM

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marty34

Boxing must be the only sport that nobody knows who is winning during it.

We have to wait to it's over to see who the winner is.  Very strange indeed!!

Spectators in gaa, soccer and athletics all know who is in the lead during the games etc.

Anybody think of any other sports where we don't have the score during the action?

Main Street

Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 12:45:50 PM
A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling
That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.



Boycey

10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?

Hound

10-10 doesn't really exist. Except as a statistical anomaly. Check all online scorecards for big fights. 10-10 appears about 1 in 1000 times. I think it's only used if both fighters do nothing in a round. Otherwise judges are instructed to pick who did the best

Hound

Spewan saying that AJ gassing is proof he's doped up
And the judges were corrupted by Katie's team
He's some sc**bag for one sc**bag.

nrico2006

 UK heavyweights been at the top of late and like that all the belts are in US hands. Big Fury to sort that out soon hopefully.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Main Street

Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?
13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu

nrico2006

Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2019, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?
13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu
What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

Over the Bar

Anyone else think that Joshua is too nice a guy and doesn't do enough to make the opponent fear him?  Like McGuigan he's not ruthless/agressive enough.  The likes of Hagler and Tyson had most opponents beaten before they got in the ring as they thought they might get their heads torn off such was the hatred/ conviction in their eyes.

Wildweasel74

#6339
Big Joshua about 12ib overweight..too muscle bound that why he runs out steam so quick. Serious questions to be asked about his chin. He clocking up Alot of knock downs. Ruiz out of shape. What he be like if he took his sport serious. Could lose 2-3stone and be a serious boxer.

Main Street

Quote from: nrico2006 on June 02, 2019, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2019, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?
13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu
What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?
Nope, each round is scored 10/9 or 9/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

nrico2006

Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2019, 08:48:54 PM
Quote from: nrico2006 on June 02, 2019, 06:17:23 PM
Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2019, 05:33:29 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 03:39:26 PM
10-8 can be given without a knockdown. Would you agree that last night there was more scope for 10-10s rather than 10-8s yet there were none?
13.    Scores can vary from the usual 10-9 outcome. If Fighter A knocks down Fighter B, the round is scored 10-8 to Fighter A. If there is a second knockdown, it is scored 10-7.
https://tinyurl.com/y49ap4nu
What did they officially score the 3rd? 9-7?
Nope, each round is scored 10/9 or 9/10

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8BT8TeX4AEqI9O.jpg

Meant in Joshua fight but I see it was given 10-8.
'To the extreme I rock a mic like a vandal, light up a stage and wax a chump like a candle.'

oakleaflad

Quote from: Main Street on June 02, 2019, 03:25:27 PM
Quote from: Boycey on June 02, 2019, 12:45:50 PM
A bigger flaw in my opinion is a reluctance to give a round 10/10, most of us watching will have a couple of rounds even while the judges seem to be intructed to find a winner in each round. Take Katie's fight last night not one of the judges saw fit to give a shared round which in a close fight is mindboggling
That's not a flaw in the rules, the voting system allows for judge  to award a 10/10. However it's in the rules that as long as boxer stays standing, at least 9 points is awarded regardless.
Unless the rule has changed recently 10-8 rounds can be given without a knockdown (a fighter completely dominates his opponent but the opponent doesn't go down).
It doesn't have to be 10-9, 10-8 etc. either. A round can be scored 9-8 for example if a fighter knocks down his opponent but also gets a point deducted.

GetOverTheBar

Never been too into the Joshua hype - he seems like a good guy but all these interviews about not taking fights against X because of the purse started to annoy me from members of his team - obviously that was not entirely him but it made it feel to me like he was happy enough to go through his career without taking on Fury or Wilder.

Now he'll have not really much choice but he'll have to rematch now which is another 7-8 months of his career and I think he'll turn 30 in the meantime.

I could see him retire if/when he wins a rematch.

oakleaflad

Has to be serious questions about Joshua's chin and his weight. His head movement was poor, he looked dead on his feet and his equilibrium was gone as soon as he got clipped. You'd fancy Wilder to KO him if he can connect at all and Fury to give him a boxing lesson based on that.

Ruiz is a much better boxer than he is getting credit for though.