Boxing Thread

[omaghjoe]

Read that Canelo weighed in at 181 and Khan weighed in at 160 on fight night. That is ridiculous if it is true. What sort of boxer is Jason Quigley? He's a fighter I don't know much about apart from a few highlights in his last few fights. Has made a good start to his career, 11 fights and still only 24.

Thats f**king shocking, 21lbs diference! Canelo really is a freak in that department and he is within his rights to use it to his advantage but making a fight with a guy two divisions below the weight limit and then putting on that amount of extra weight is completely unfair. Add into that his winging that he is to small for MW when very few middle weights would enter the ring at 180. For reference I believe GGG's is 170 or something like that

[omaghjoe]

a great warrior

http://www.the42.ie/matthew-macklin-retires-2765399-May2016/

He was indeed. Put in 2 great attempts at winning a World title. I actually never seen the fight with Strum before so I watched it there... actually could see how Strum could have been deemed the winner in that. He had much more cleaner punches than Macklin who threw many more punches, depends how you are scoring it, defo the kind of decision you get at home tho.

On a side note did Strum ever attempt to avoid a punch by moving his body? he's all gloves and elbows.

Pity the Andy Lee or John Duddy fight never materialised but sure thats pro boxing

[Syferus]

Mayweather openly talking about fighting McGregor now. More than likely just a ploy that benefits both camps in their negotiations with other entities but still if McGregor had the option he'd be mad to turn it down, the money would be absolutely outrageous even if Mayweather was getting the bigger cut.

[bridgegael]

Mayweather openly talking about fighting McGregor now. More than likely just a ploy that benefits both camps in their negotiations with other entities but still if McGregor had the option he'd be mad to turn it down, the money would be absolutely outrageous even if Mayweather was getting the bigger cut.

Saw that interview!  The boys are at it!  They are having a right laugh.

[JimStynes]

McGregors wouldn't lay a glove on him

[BennyHarp]

McGregors wouldn't lay a glove on him

And would get picked off all night long, Floyd could really embarrass him! This fight won't happen!

[JimStynes]

McGregor walks around the ring with his chin up like a lighthouse. Mayweather would stop him!

[BennyHarp]

A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?

[omaghjoe]

A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?

My understanding is the former Benny tho it almost always works out 10-8 regardless. Interestingly I think Khan-Maidana rd 10 worked out at 10-8 without a knockdown.

[CiKe]

A quick question regarding the points awarded in boxing. I was watching a programme on Boxnation and analyst Barry Jones said something along the lines of if there's a knockdown or point deduction, you score the round first and then take away the point second.

Example: Someone's winning the round 10-9, they get knocked down so that makes the round 9-9?

I always thought it was just an automatic 10-8 to the guy who scored the knockdown regardless of who was winning the round... Is this wrong?

Think you can have 9-9 definitely if one falla is winning the round but gets knocked down (would need to be winning round handily). 10-8 without a knockdown not that uncommon if one of them is getting a pasting.

My understanding is the former Benny tho it almost always works out 10-8 regardless. Interestingly I think Khan-Maidana rd 10 worked out at 10-8 without a knockdown.

[BennyHarp]

So a flash knock down doesn't necessarily cost you a round then?

[Medic]

Max Kellerman really knows his boxing... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ciHg3br1bpc

Eta: ESPN First Take debate Gennady GGG Golovkin vs Floyd Mayweather... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CqulXAOQJ9k

[Atticus_Finch]

So a flash knock down doesn't necessarily cost you a round then?

Unless you return the knockdown then it generally will cost you the round as far as I know.  The only exception to that is if you have to factor in a point deduction for fouls. That's the only way I think you could get a 9-9 round.

If fighter A knocks fighter B down and goes on to win the round then it's 10-8. If fighter B gets knocked down and goes on to win the round then it would be scored 10-9 in fighter A's favour.

[Atticus_Finch]

a great warrior

http://www.the42.ie/matthew-macklin-retires-2765399-May2016/

He was indeed. Put in 2 great attempts at winning a World title. I actually never seen the fight with Strum before so I watched it there... actually could see how Strum could have been deemed the winner in that. He had much more cleaner punches than Macklin who threw many more punches, depends how you are scoring it, defo the kind of decision you get at home tho.

On a side note did Strum ever attempt to avoid a punch by moving his body? he's all gloves and elbows.

Pity the Andy Lee or John Duddy fight never materialised but sure thats pro boxing

a great warrior

http://www.the42.ie/matthew-macklin-retires-2765399-May2016/

He was indeed. Put in 2 great attempts at winning a World title. I actually never seen the fight with Strum before so I watched it there... actually could see how Strum could have been deemed the winner in that. He had much more cleaner punches than Macklin who threw many more punches, depends how you are scoring it, defo the kind of decision you get at home tho.

On a side note did Strum ever attempt to avoid a punch by moving his body? he's all gloves and elbows.

Pity the Andy Lee or John Duddy fight never materialised but sure thats pro boxing

Shame those bouts never materialised indeed.

At one stage there was the prospect of having some great match ups at middleweight and at one point it looked like Sky were going to put on a "super six style" event featuring the likes of Macklin, Andy Lee, Murray and Barker they even did a "Gloves are off" episode with them all but it never transpired.

Macklin was an entertaining fighter and mixed it with the very best. St the end of a harsh decision against Sturm and fought Sergio Martinez when he was close to his best.

I wonder how much events outside the ring were a factor in his decision to hang up the gloves ? The Kinahan gang are known associates of MGM (Macklin's gym Marbella) and it was no coincidence when an MGM weigh in at the Regency hotel in Dublin was used to try and target a Kinahan gang member.  There was also the shooting of Jamie Moore (his former trainer) while he was training Macklin out in Marbella a couple of years back.  Being close to those events would surely take it's toll on anyone.  One thing for sure is that if Macklin ever decides to release an autobiography it would be an interesting read. 

[omaghjoe]

I really wish Mayweather would f**k off but ive been wishing that for a wile now. You cant avoid his slabbering in boxing news these days and you cant avoid it. He is an egotistical moron who will say anything to remain in the limelight. As far as I am concerned he is finished.

The McGregor fight will not happen, a GGG fight will not happen, if he does come out of retirement it will be another borefest with Pacquiao.