One point win for the footballers. Made hard work of that although the wind made things difficult. As did the referee.
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Show posts MenuQuote from: JohnDenver on January 16, 2019, 06:24:29 PMNot the worst idea - he definitely needs to play. Just don't want him at 3.
I would imagine Chrissy will be handed a free role / sweeper in the team, with the view of limiting the number of goals conceded and him organising and joining overlaps if and when needed
Quote from: Derry Optimist on January 16, 2019, 03:27:23 PMThe hgh scoring forwards might be our concern alright. Outside of the current panel and the u20's, one of the obvious ones is Danny Tallon, who apparently doesn't want to play. Another I was thinking was Anthony O'Neil at Loup - was he the Champo top scorer? I have no idea how good he is, just looking at scorers. Mulgrew at Screen always looks dangerous too but not sure his situation, I think he's a Tyrone man.
I really enjoyed some of the arguments and counter arguments posed by our last number of posters.Getting back to last year's performance against Kildare the enormously talented but incredibly inconsistent Daniel Flynn just happened to be at his best against Derry.In that circumstance he is practically unmarkable if the correct ball is coming in to him which it was. So Chrissy McKaigue was not to blame for that.The fault lay elsewhere. What some people forget about that game is that four key Derry players were continually fouled off the ball and the referee did nothing about it.This bad refereeing alone resulted in Kildare scoring 1-3 against the run of play at vital stages.
It is true that some of our best players are unfortunately lacking in height and strength which is a huge disadvantage in the modern game.However all of these individuals are intelligent,skilful, pacy and plucky which helps greatly to compensate for their physical shortcomings.
Ryan Bell, when fit again, and Niall Toner are really our only other scoring options that I can think of outside the U20's.Niall Holly would have provided a viable midfield option but unfortunately he was not able to commit to the county which is a great pity because if any of our key fielders get injured we have few options.Likewise the absence of a versatile scoring forward such as Niall Loughlin is a huge blow.
So unless we get lucky and none of our top forwards get injured management might have to resort to introducing some of the u20's if there is an emergency situation.That is something none of us would like to see happen especially as our 20's should do well in the provincial and even All Ireland series if left untouched.
Quote from: oakleaflad on January 16, 2019, 01:24:32 PMHe wasn't playing full back but was doing a sort of sweeping job and we seemed to essentially try and double-mark Flynn. I remember one ball came in, Flynn was sandwiched between Chrissy and Johnston but he bullied them both out of the way and won it with ease. I worry Chrissy would be on the receiving end of similar against other big full forwards.Quote from: tbrick18 on January 16, 2019, 01:13:50 PMAlthough ultimately I don't agree with you I definitely understand your argument. It's nice that we seem to have more defensive options than in previous years.Quote from: toby47 on January 16, 2019, 11:46:16 AMQuote from: BackInTheGame on January 16, 2019, 11:39:45 AMQuote from: tbrick18 on January 16, 2019, 10:55:31 AMI never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me. It's not his game.Quote from: braveheart on January 15, 2019, 07:48:45 PMQuote from: Derry Optimist on January 14, 2019, 08:15:03 PMA much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.
After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
B McKinless
N Keenan C Mulholland K McKaigue
M McEvoy C McKaigue E McGill
C McAtamney C McFaul
P Coney C Bradley P Cassidy
E Lynn E Bradley S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner
Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.
I think he's got plenty in his game to play 6. Or 5/7. I completely agree that he slows it down too often but that's not a lack of ability, that's just him doing what he's been trained to do for his club for the last few years. We just need to train it out of him. He's a good ball carrier, a decent passer when he tries it, and has kicked many a good score from distance. Rogers/Mulholland full backs for me, every day.
I agree, wouldn't have Chrissy in the fullback line either. He's not comfortable marking in there. I'd be tempted to play him Midfield, as Derry aren't overloaded with options in this position
We'll just have to agree to disagree.
IMO, Chrissy's best football in a county jersey was when he was consistently playing full back. He's had runs in MF and CHB, none of which have been very good. I think he really cant play a HB role at all as he's not defensive enough when on that line. But in FB, he has a man-marking job and that I think he can be very good at whilst also marshalling the full back line.
Any player can have a bad day if he's put into a position he's not regularly playing in though.
I'd have Rodgers in CHB before Chrissy. But, only an opinion.
Also, was Chrissy at full back against Kildare? I honestly don't remember that. I mind thinking Flynn was too big physically for his man before Rogers was brought on. I thought it was McNeill and maybe Johnson who were tried before that?
Just looking up at the squad posted above, are we a bit short on forwards? Both E Bradley and P Cassidy named in forwards when both could end up playing midfield and more defenders on the bench. Outside of Bell is there any other forwards to come in (not on U20s)?
Quote from: tbrick18 on January 16, 2019, 10:55:31 AMI never want to see Chrissy at full back after last year's qualifier against Kildare. I can't remember if it was him or Johnston who was wearing no. 3 but between the pair of them they looked like under 14s trying to mark the big fella whose name escapes me. It's not his game.Quote from: braveheart on January 15, 2019, 07:48:45 PMQuote from: Derry Optimist on January 14, 2019, 08:15:03 PMA much better effort than usual Optimist. But still at least 4 wrong.
After Derry's much improved displays this season there should be some very healthy competition for places for the opening league match against Antrim.It is important, however, for management to always put out a very strong side in each of the league games as we can not afford any slip ups. I would expect that the u20 players would not be considered for the League games except in an emergency situation.Assuming that Brendan Rogers,Paul McNeill and Ryan Bell will not be fully fit, I would suggest the following team to be picked against the Glensmen.
B McKinless
N Keenan C Mulholland K McKaigue
M McEvoy C McKaigue E McGill
C McAtamney C McFaul
P Coney C Bradley P Cassidy
E Lynn E Bradley S McGuigan
Subs
T Mallon
E Concannon
S Quinn
R Dougan
G McKinless
J Rocks
D Hughes
T O'Brien
J Doherty
N Toner
Chrissy McKaigue, IMO, can only effectively play at full back for county. He doesn't have enough going forward and all too often plays the ball back after running 30yards, which slows the whole attack down even if it does retain possession.
Of that team, I'd drop mulhullan, put Chrissy in full back and bring mckinless into CHB.
We need to be tough to beat first a foremost. With the exception of Rodgers that would be our strongest available defence IMO.
Wouldn't have any complaints about the rest of the selection.
Quote from: markl121 on January 13, 2019, 06:18:44 PMI don't really have any memories of the kickouts - they weren't amazing but they weren't bad either. With Cassidy and Dougan playing as wing half forwards, they give us a good option. But Tyrone are physically a fair bit bigger than us and we didn't really have a chance to exploit any advantage that those two will give us against shorter half backs.
Didn't get to today's game. I see sammy scored a few frees again would like to see him start in the league. What were the kickouts like? Was there a strategy against a better team?
Quote from: toby47 on October 08, 2018, 08:57:18 AMMcGill, Toner and Bell definitely impressed me. The Lavey keeper would be an interesting one to call up, I think he's about 30 years old and never played County but he's a good keeper, has been for a while, and his kicking is maybe the best of any keeper I've seen all year.
With only the final to go who would you say has impressed in this years championship and would be deserving of a county call up?
Holly, Colm McGoldrick, Ciaran Mullan, Eamonn McGill, Niall Toner, Ryan Bell, Benny Herron & the Lavey keeper have been the stand outs for me. I was also impressed with Jack Doherty from Glen yesterday. I wonder how many of them will be on the panel this year.
Quote from: bannside on October 05, 2018, 09:20:56 AMI see people suggesting, seriously, that phones and cameras should be banned because its spreading this sort of thing.
Just saw the video. Truly shocking....but not in the least bit surprised! We've had this discussion here a few times. The Derry board need to deal with this, with social media the evidence is plain to see, so it shouldn't be as handily swept under the carpet.
Quote from: The Trap on October 04, 2018, 01:47:54 PMBang on.
Well if nothing is done about the previous 7 what do you expect?