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Title: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: The Trap on August 20, 2018, 11:22:47 AM
What way does it work in reality? Straight after a game do RTE radio and tv interviewers know not to approach tyrone players. Surely in the heat of the moment a Tyrone player could be caught off guard and answer a few questions. Would they ask "are you from RTE?"
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 11:24:13 AM
Quote from: The Trap on August 20, 2018, 11:22:47 AM
What way does it work in reality? Straight after a game do RTE radio and tv interviewers know not to approach tyrone players. Surely in the heat of the moment a Tyrone player could be caught off guard and answer a few questions. Would they ask "are you from RTE?"

For an All Ireland it's more the build up. You see the fluff pieces that are on telly, d'internet and Up for the Match, and the buildup itself.

Although I might be wrong, was it only John Kiely that spoke to the media coming up to the game yesterday?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:27:19 AM
It was - Kielty managed that so well - said he had a young team and it was his role to protect them from the distraction - he explained it better than that!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!
For me this is MH's decision. I wouldn't want or expect him to change his mind for anyone else. Does it help Tyrone, Prob not but I also respect that it his decision given the personal nature of what happened.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2018, 11:37:27 AM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!

People love to snire at Mickey and use his faith in a sarcastic way to beat him over things like this. The truth is, whether we agree with his faith or not it has helped him deal with some horrific tragedies in his life and that is something we should respect.

RTE overstepped the mark and have never really shown any sort of commitment to make amends. Their representation of Tyrone since hasn't exactly endeared them to Tyrone fans or the team. So in a day and age where social media is king and RTE productions like Up for the Match are just embarrassing to watch and post match interviews are meaningless then I don't think Tyrone miss out too much with their stance. One thing is for sure, Tyrone aren't going to give in now with the glorious opportunity of locking RTE out of the banquet so close.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mup on August 20, 2018, 12:07:28 PM
Although time has dulled the actual content of the 'sketch' on RTE Radio, I do remember hearing it at the time and thinking that it was horribly insensitive. I'd have no issue with Tyrone not having anything to do with RTE. Good on them.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 20, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!
For me this is MH's decision. I wouldn't want or expect him to change his mind for anyone else. Does it help Tyrone, Prob not but I also respect that it his decision given the personal nature of what happened.

Harte has got his personal issues with rte regarding brian carty and also the unfortunate song choice by an rte dj. Rte have behaved with dignity and apologised but harte wouldn't accept it. That's his prerogative but what's pathetic is his dictating to his players to boycott rte also. It shows the players as robots with no individuality and paints them in a pathetic light. As with their going along with the rosarys at training and before matches. Some of them need to say to harte to wise up and do their own thing.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 12:20:19 PM
Lenny doesn't believe what he says either. He's just a tube that likes to bash Tyrone over any wee thing. If Tyrone had allowed Rte interviews then he'd be saying they lad no backbone or courage of conviction.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 12:21:07 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 12:12:36 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 11:34:22 AM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 11:17:14 AM
RTE continue to offer the olive branch although they never actually apologised after 2011. Is Mickey Harte right to continue to snub the national broadcaster given his deep faith and commitment to forgiveness? Are the Tyrone Board and players/staff correct to follow suit? Are Cavanagh, Jordan etc who do work for RTE in some capacity disloyal to the Tyrone manager?
Discuss!
For me this is MH's decision. I wouldn't want or expect him to change his mind for anyone else. Does it help Tyrone, Prob not but I also respect that it his decision given the personal nature of what happened.

Harte has got his personal issues with rte regarding brian carty and also the unfortunate song choice by an rte dj. Rte have behaved with dignity and apologised but harte wouldn't accept it. That's his prerogative but what's pathetic is his dictating to his players to boycott rte also. It shows the players as robots with no individuality and paints them in a pathetic light. As with their going along with the rosarys at training and before matches. Some of them need to say to harte to wise up and do their own thing.

Hardstation has said exactly what I would have. Plus they might, like me, feel that MH had a genuine grievance with RTE and therefore are happy to stand by him. I don't see that as pathetic.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 12:24:54 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart

The boycott won't have any effect on how the team preforms on the date. If they get their asses handed to them, then they'll just have been the most recent victims of a strong Dublin team. Highly likely it seems as well.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: GJL on August 20, 2018, 12:25:05 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:22:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart
Why would it make any difference?

Speaking to RTE or not speaking to RTE will have absolutely zero influence on the result of the game.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: CD on August 20, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
My understanding is that the players and background team make their own choices about their contact with RTE?
In terms of issuing an apology, RTÉ did the classic media trick of apologising 'if offence was caused' thereby insinuating that they didn't see it as offensive and backing the DJ who wasn't reprimanded in any way. The subsequent 'Tyrone bashing' has just gone to stiffen resolve.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I imagine the players don't really feel strongly enough about talking to RTE to go against their manager. I mean, why would anyone be busting their hole to do an interview with RTE?

Especially since there are superior broadcasters out there covering matches anyway.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2018, 12:27:59 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart

Eh? Why?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 20, 2018, 12:43:58 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart

This makes no sense whatsoever.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2018, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
My understanding is that the players and background team make their own choices about their contact with RTE?
In terms of issuing an apology, RTÉ did the classic media trick of apologising 'if offence was caused' thereby insinuating that they didn't see it as offensive and backing the DJ who wasn't reprimanded in any way. The subsequent 'Tyrone bashing' has just gone to stiffen resolve.

In Lennyism speak - that's "acting with dignity" in response to an offensive segment in a national radio show relating to a man whose daughter was murdered on her honeymoon. It beggars belief really that people would feel Mickey is being unreasonable and is the bad guy here. I wonder if people would be so dignified if it was their family who had to deal with these horrific events?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 12:57:37 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 20, 2018, 12:44:11 PM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 12:25:33 PM
My understanding is that the players and background team make their own choices about their contact with RTE?
In terms of issuing an apology, RTÉ did the classic media trick of apologising 'if offence was caused' thereby insinuating that they didn't see it as offensive and backing the DJ who wasn't reprimanded in any way. The subsequent 'Tyrone bashing' has just gone to stiffen resolve.

In Lennyism speak - that's "acting with dignity" in response to an offensive segment in a national radio show relating to a man whose daughter was murdered on her honeymoon. It beggars belief really that people would feel Mickey is being unreasonable and is the bad guy here. I wonder if people would be so dignified if it was their family who had to deal with these horrific events?

Of course they wouldn't. But it's any excuse to get one over on Tyrone. The anti-tyroneies really are on a race to the bottom.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
Does anyone care. Mickey's short-lived Irish News column showed he has absolutely nothing of note to say.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: tintin25 on August 20, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
Does anyone care. Mickey's short-lived Irish News column showed he has absolutely nothing of note to say.

That column was shockingly bad
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Baile an tuaigh on August 20, 2018, 01:03:16 PM
Never liked RTE for their politics anyway, I would equate them to the BBC in a skirt. Im with Mickey 100%.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 01:07:05 PM
i think RTE and mickey harte are very similar. nobody wants to listen or look at them but we have no choice and they have no relevance to anyone anymore.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:07:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 20, 2018, 12:21:27 PM
If Tyrone get their arses handed to them on a disposable plate the omerta won't look very smart

I don't think anyone anywhere will be saying "ah sure if only they'd have talked to RTE in the build-up then maybe we'd have won"
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:08:49 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 01:07:05 PM
i think RTE and mickey harte are very similar. nobody wants to listen or look at them but we have no choice and they have no relevance to anyone anymore.

You get a ticket yet STG?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
yeah have one ordered with the club. have a couple of mates in dublin looking tickets so might give it to them if i dont go myself.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:17:43 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 01:11:59 PM
yeah have one ordered with the club. have a couple of mates in dublin looking tickets so might give it to them if i dont go myself.

Sending a ticket outside the club! Boys a dear.  ::)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?

I don't think they've said, and I don't think you'd hear the right amount. Clubs up here just telling people to brace themselves for bad news, that they haven't enough to cover requests.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I imagine the players don't really feel strongly enough about talking to RTE to go against their manager. I mean, why would anyone be busting their hole to do an interview with RTE?

Especially since there are superior broadcasters out there covering matches anyway.

Don't tell me you mean Sky. They maybe have better co-commentators. That's it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I imagine the players don't really feel strongly enough about talking to RTE to go against their manager. I mean, why would anyone be busting their hole to do an interview with RTE?

Especially since there are superior broadcasters out there covering matches anyway.

Don't tell me you mean Sky. They maybe have better co-commentators. That's it.

I'd rather listen to canavan and mcguinness than brolly and o rourke.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 01:29:45 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 01:22:53 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 12:26:03 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I imagine the players don't really feel strongly enough about talking to RTE to go against their manager. I mean, why would anyone be busting their hole to do an interview with RTE?

Especially since there are superior broadcasters out there covering matches anyway.

Don't tell me you mean Sky. They maybe have better co-commentators. That's it.

I'd rather listen to canavan and mcguinness than brolly and o rourke.

Wee Pete is hardly going to be an impartial source of analysis for this match of all matches. O'Rourke is fine and probably the only major pundit to float the real answer to fixing Dublin. RTÉ have had some wonderful guest pundits in Parsons, Meehan and Keegan this summer too. This is Lyster's swansong match also.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: markl121 on August 20, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?
Gaelic life seemed to suggest that every club member would get a ticket as well as every season ticket holder regardless of attendance.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: joemamas on August 20, 2018, 01:56:12 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 12:17:07 PM
I imagine the players don't really feel strongly enough about talking to RTE to go against their manager. I mean, why would anyone be busting their hole to do an interview with RTE?

You mean they would not like to be interviewed by Marty.
You know what, I bet you most of them are relieved that they don't have to deal with that shi*e
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: TheClubman on August 20, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
RTE's coverage of gaelic games in general but particularly gaelic football is atrocious. I don't think these interviews reveal anything relevant. Like - is anyone really looking forward to Jim Gavin's pre match or post match interview? And that's no offence to him. They're pointless.

It's about the game and journalists (if they can be called that) try to make it about them.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: GJL on August 20, 2018, 02:39:01 PM
I wonder if Tyrone were to win could Sky be invited into the Banquet to do some sort of program like RTE do?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 20, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on August 20, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
RTE's coverage of gaelic games in general but particularly gaelic football is atrocious. I don't think these interviews reveal anything relevant. Like - is anyone really looking forward to Jim Gavin's pre match or post match interview? And that's no offence to him. They're pointless.

It's about the game and journalists (if they can be called that) try to make it about them.

I see your point, it's not like any other sport has post match interviews or any other tv channel does post match interviews. What kind of lunatic are u?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 02:43:59 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!

Really??
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2018, 02:51:52 PM
Quote from: tintin25 on August 20, 2018, 01:00:55 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on August 20, 2018, 12:58:46 PM
Does anyone care. Mickey's short-lived Irish News column showed he has absolutely nothing of note to say.

That column was shockingly bad

It was just a rant and criticism of anyone daring to speak out about tactics Tyrone used, or dismissing any rule changes that would upset Tyrone's style of play. Brutal stuff.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2018, 02:53:03 PM
Quote from: markl121 on August 20, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?
Gaelic life seemed to suggest that every club member would get a ticket as well as every season ticket holder regardless of attendance.

Aye right. When has that ever happened in any county?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: clarshack on August 20, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: markl121 on August 20, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?
Gaelic life seemed to suggest that every club member would get a ticket as well as every season ticket holder regardless of attendance.

not all club members in Tyrone got tickets for previous finals so why would it be different now?
in fact i'd have thought there would be even less tickets this time around as there are season ticket holders now to take a share of the overall allocation.
personally i don't think the ticket situation is going to be good...
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 02:59:25 PM
Maybe they meant Club Tyrone?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2018, 03:01:05 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!

I'd agree. Childish stuff, but offensive?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 20, 2018, 03:04:46 PM
Quote from: clarshack on August 20, 2018, 02:55:25 PM
Quote from: markl121 on August 20, 2018, 01:46:51 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 01:18:47 PM
How many tickets are each club in the participating Counties  getting?
Gaelic life seemed to suggest that every club member would get a ticket as well as every season ticket holder regardless of attendance.

not all club members in Tyrone got tickets for previous finals so why would it be different now?
in fact i'd have thought there would be even less tickets this time around as there are season ticket holders now to take a share of the overall allocation.
personally i don't think the ticket situation is going to be good...

If you're a Tyrone club member, you should be able to sit up on the sofa, and your club secretary or whoever come in, roll you over and put your ticket in your pocket. Should be the same in any county.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: spuds on August 20, 2018, 03:18:42 PM
Tyrone do their slabbering on the pitch.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: TheClubman on August 20, 2018, 03:19:10 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 02:43:13 PM
Quote from: TheClubman on August 20, 2018, 02:37:54 PM
RTE's coverage of gaelic games in general but particularly gaelic football is atrocious. I don't think these interviews reveal anything relevant. Like - is anyone really looking forward to Jim Gavin's pre match or post match interview? And that's no offence to him. They're pointless.

It's about the game and journalists (if they can be called that) try to make it about them.

I see your point, it's not like any other sport has post match interviews or any other tv channel does post match interviews. What kind of lunatic are u?

Why do we have to be like other sports? Why do RTE have to do mind numbingly boring interviews that offer no insight whatsoever? Possibly to help people who know SFA about the games to have a conversation when they go to the pub....that's about all I can think of.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Owen Brannigan on August 20, 2018, 03:20:18 PM
Harte is like many of us, he neither forgives nor forgets and if he does forget he doesn't forgive. The same applies to RTE as applies to all others who have crossed him in the past.  it may not be Christian but it is human.

Tyrone GAA is not Harte and the players are not Harte but both have followed or bent to his will on this matter.  Previous sponsors were not happy as it removed their exposure in interviews and they were left behind but the current sponsor will not have the same problem.

Personally, I think Harte should have continued on his on vendetta against RTE as he wishes but Tyrone GAA, players and others should have been given the opportunity as these occasions don't happen often and while many will cringe at the broadcasts they are still widely watched by a cringing public and virtually all of the relatives of the players, etc.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Captain Obvious on August 20, 2018, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!

The song choice on the sketch, Pretty Little Girl from Omagh was probably what caused the offense.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jinxy on August 20, 2018, 03:27:09 PM
If Tyrone win, the Sunday Game panel that evening will solely consist of match highlights and the panel picking daft 'end of season' awards.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: TheClubman on August 20, 2018, 03:33:19 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 20, 2018, 03:27:09 PM
If Tyrone win, the Sunday Game panel that evening will solely consist of match highlights and the panel picking daft 'end of season' awards.

Ya, will really miss the yahooing and the "sure it wasn't me, it was the rest of the lads made my job east..." - cutting edge insight. Hopefully when they show the highlights we get the crucial team running out and supports shots that add so much.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: armaghniac on August 20, 2018, 03:37:51 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 20, 2018, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!

The song choice on the sketch, Pretty Little Girl from Omagh was probably what caused the offense.

I thought it well out of order at the time and the presenter of that show is now working with the sports department.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: haranguerer on August 20, 2018, 03:49:34 PM
When someone has went through something that horrendous, you shouldn't be doing anything that could be considered even close to offensive, and if you inadvertently do, then you should go grovelling to them.

I can't imagine they'd have considered a skit about Lottie Ryan not long after Gerrys death, and certainly not with a song that could be interpreted as referring to him
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 04:00:13 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on August 20, 2018, 03:26:16 PM
Quote from: screenexile on August 20, 2018, 02:42:03 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 20, 2018, 11:42:33 AM
Rte have for years went out of their way to try to punish Tyrone so I wouldn't piss on them if they were on fire. If anyone from tyrone wants to appear on there once they're done playing then that's their personal decision.

Yes it was Ryle Nugent's personal obsession to stick it to Tyrone any chance he got!!

What a load of aul shite! Every team has gotten abuse from RTE from Armagh/Cavan/Donegal down to Cork and even the Dubs in their time why do Tyrone think they are so special in this regard.

I've heard the sketch on a few occasions to be honest I'm still not quite sure where the offense is (apart from the fact it was meant to be funny and it was just rambling nonsense)? And it most definitely wasn't Ryle Nugent or the Sports departments fault. The Carthy thing was just ridiculous and Harte's own fault for writing the letter.

Regardless of this there is a new head of programming in there so it just seems strange that someone who preaches the Catholic ethos etc. wouldn't forgive something so minor!

The song choice on the sketch, Pretty Little Girl from Omagh was probably what caused the offense.
How this needs to be clarified I don't know.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 20, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.

Their apology, unless I'm mistaken, was 'If you were offended, we're sorry you were offended'. That's not an apology, that's weasel stuff.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on August 20, 2018, 03:27:09 PM
If Tyrone win, the Sunday Game panel that evening will solely consist of match highlights and the panel picking daft 'end of season' awards.

I would hope they use the extra time to honour Lyster, but then that would be a damp squib for him in that he's the one broadcasting from the winning team's hotel.

Dublin, do it for Michael.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 04:42:32 PM
the end of year awards with Des in the middle are a fairly limp usage of coverage time
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 20, 2018, 04:43:27 PM
Tyrone should abandon this policy they have, let bygones be bygones. You never know, they might just get something positive out of it.

There is no winners in this stand off and it only fuels some of the idiotic sentiment on this thread I've just read.

At the end of the day when we think of GAA, we think of RTE - It would overshadow perhaps one of the greatest upsets in Gaelic Football history should the result go Tyrone way in my opinion.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 04:47:59 PM
sure we in Roscommon have a manager who refuses to speak to local radio after taking the huff at an analysts views and the co board are as brave as the Tyrone one in dealing with it.

culture of manager is gone cuckoo
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 04:51:51 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 04:47:59 PM
sure we in Roscommon have a manager who refuses to speak to local radio after taking the huff at an analysts views and the co board are as brave as the Tyrone one in dealing with it.

culture of manager is gone cuckoo

Shannonside never apologised. RTÉ did. And they just ran a sketch that was in bad taste, not a xenophobic hit piece.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 20, 2018, 04:43:27 PM
Tyrone should abandon this policy they have, let bygones be bygones. You never know, they might just get something positive out of it.

There is no winners in this stand off and it only fuels some of the idiotic sentiment on this thread I've just read.

At the end of the day when we think of GAA, we think of RTE - It would overshadow perhaps one of the greatest upsets in Gaelic Football history should the result go Tyrone way in my opinion.

Realistically the only winner if MH backs down is RTE. I honestly don't believe it would make any different to Tyrone either way. If anything the siege mentality might be something to bind the team in the run in to the final, plus it keeps the players away from the cameras and the hype.
Only ever seems to come to the forefront when RTE are missing out on something. They don't drive when MH feels he can move on from it. That's a decision for him personally but he seems to have the backing of the team and the county board. Had it been me, they would be waiting a long time as well. 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 05:07:19 PM
If the "sketch" drew reference to your daughter who had been tragically murdered, I'm not sure you would be so understanding or forgiving. I know I wouldn't be.
The cnut should have been given the road.

There is a parallel to be drawn with the Barry McIlduff thing. Although I think this is worse as we know RTE were having a swipe at Harte. McIlduff might have just really fcuked up.

Either way, slán.

The idea someone should lose their job because of one bad sketch is so ridiculous and in actuality far crueler than the sketch was.

If a comedian is given a job to create something they need to be given latitude because no  comedy is  going to be for everyone and more than a few attempts are likely to  fall flat with the general population. You can't go around firing people for one instance of it going wrong. You'd hope even Harte understood that much.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
You are a sketch.

The last resort of someone with a bad argument.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: GetOverTheBar on August 20, 2018, 05:20:32 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 05:09:35 PM
Quote from: GetOverTheBar on August 20, 2018, 04:43:27 PM
Tyrone should abandon this policy they have, let bygones be bygones. You never know, they might just get something positive out of it.

There is no winners in this stand off and it only fuels some of the idiotic sentiment on this thread I've just read.

At the end of the day when we think of GAA, we think of RTE - It would overshadow perhaps one of the greatest upsets in Gaelic Football history should the result go Tyrone way in my opinion.

Realistically the only winner if MH backs down is RTE. I honestly don't believe it would make any different to Tyrone either way. If anything the siege mentality might be something to bind the team in the run in to the final, plus it keeps the players away from the cameras and the hype.
Only ever seems to come to the forefront when RTE are missing out on something. They don't drive when MH feels he can move on from it. That's a decision for him personally but he seems to have the backing of the team and the county board. Had it been me, they would be waiting a long time as well.

Fair enough points but the media will always get to the players, McNamee seems to talk to whoever gets in front of him, the McCann boys on BBC etc.

Alot of those boys would barely remember the whole scenario and what this was actually about I'd say.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
i am one of those who thought RTE were bang out of order at the time. but it was 7 f**king years ago get over it Mickey, try and coach positivity instead if using chips on the shoulder and sieges to push teams into battle.

a weak county board that are minimising the return to sponsors

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
How much of a factor is the Carthy thing in this or is it purely relating to his daughter?

Really you would hope it gets resolved as it makes a farce of things leading up to an AI.

Does harte want an apology or as it stands what does it take to resolve it? My understanding was Carthy was the main factor but I could be wrong on that.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 05:45:43 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 05:27:18 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 20, 2018, 05:18:47 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 05:16:58 PM
You are a sketch.

The last resort of someone with a bad argument.
Your argument is that anything is allowed as long as it is just once ffs.

No it isn't. Typical.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
How much of a factor is the Carthy thing in this or is it purely relating to his daughter?

Really you would hope it gets resolved as it makes a farce of things leading up to an AI.

Does harte want an apology or as it stands what does it take to resolve it? My understanding was Carthy was the main factor but I could be wrong on that.
yes carthy was the original one in may 2011 then rte got back at harte in august 2011 which basically elevated the stand off.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: CD on August 20, 2018, 06:31:07 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
How much of a factor is the Carthy thing in this or is it purely relating to his daughter?

Really you would hope it gets resolved as it makes a farce of things leading up to an AI.

Does harte want an apology or as it stands what does it take to resolve it? My understanding was Carthy was the main factor but I could be wrong on that.
yes carthy was the original one in may 2011 then rte got back at harte in august 2011 which basically elevated the stand off.

There's been a lot of 'guff' directed at Tyrone and personally at Mickey Harte in subsequent years from prominent pundits that have exacerbated the situation. Apparently the falling attendances, boring games, death of the corner forward are all Mickey Harte's fault.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 06:57:02 PM
yes those things are mickeys fault in tyrone anyway. not sure about other counties though.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: ONeill on August 20, 2018, 06:57:34 PM
To be fair, playing blinders in pre-match interviews usually means Sam is coming home. I've seen countless All-Irelands won at the end of a microphone and not on the field. Mickey should stop this madness.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: ziggysego on August 20, 2018, 07:22:53 PM
Maybe there's an opening for TG4 here. Do RTE still own them or are they independent?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 07:24:53 PM
Quote from: CD on August 20, 2018, 06:31:07 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 06:08:16 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 20, 2018, 05:36:50 PM
How much of a factor is the Carthy thing in this or is it purely relating to his daughter?

Really you would hope it gets resolved as it makes a farce of things leading up to an AI.

Does harte want an apology or as it stands what does it take to resolve it? My understanding was Carthy was the main factor but I could be wrong on that.
yes carthy was the original one in may 2011 then rte got back at harte in august 2011 which basically elevated the stand off.

There's been a lot of 'guff' directed at Tyrone and personally at Mickey Harte in subsequent years from prominent pundits that have exacerbated the situation. Apparently the falling attendances, boring games, death of the corner forward are all Mickey Harte's fault.

Ach pundits talk a lot of shite at times. I would be very surprised if that has anything to do with anything unless he is trying to go down that jimmy mcguinness tin foil hat route.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Kidder81 on August 20, 2018, 07:32:26 PM
The Tyrone board should tell Micky they are reducing his salary if this continues
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 20, 2018, 07:40:51 PM
Quote from: Kidder81 on August 20, 2018, 07:32:26 PM
The Tyrone board should tell Micky they are reducing his salary if this continues

Money is irrelevant.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 20, 2018, 08:52:49 PM
What is the issue with Carty?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 20, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-brian-carthy-and-that-fourpage-letter-to-rte-26741449.html
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
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Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Rossfan on August 20, 2018, 09:33:45 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 20, 2018, 08:58:15 PM
https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/mickey-harte-brian-carthy-and-that-fourpage-letter-to-rte-26741449.html
It's bad enough that Carty embarrasses us with his commentaries but he loves fkn Country and Western caterwauling as well.
Wish he'd ride off into the sunset  :-[
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 20, 2018, 09:50:47 PM
Jesus so Harte is trying to run RTE Sports personnel department?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 20, 2018, 10:01:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
it was 7 f**king years ago get over it Mickey,
WTF is wrong with people on this board!
That "sketch" came 7 months after his daughter was brutally murdered on her honeymoon. He and his family were in the depths of grief when this was broadcast to the nation. For me, that is something that any man would struggle to "get over" in his lifetime never mind in "7 f**king years".
You are some ignorant pup.

+1 It beggars belief that people think Mickey should just "get over it". Mickey has had to pick up the pieces for his whole family over the tragic death of Michaela. He has done it with dignity and a strength of character that I have the utmost respect for. I have personal experience if him going way above and beyond to help those cope with grief by making himself available to listen and comfort others when he was in the middle of coping with immense pain himself. People can criticise Mickey's tactics, his style of football, his stubbornness when dealing with the county board etc but when criticising how he chooses to deal with people who publicly cause offence to him and his family at a time of extreme grief, then I think people have stepped way, way over the line. Fair play to the county board, panel and most of the Tyrone people for backing Mickey on this.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:02:57 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
it was 7 f**king years ago get over it Mickey,
WTF is wrong with people on this board!
That "sketch" came 7 months after his daughter was brutally murdered on her honeymoon. He and his family were in the depths of grief when this was broadcast to the nation. For me, that is something that any man would struggle to "get over" in his lifetime never mind in "7 f**king years".
You are some ignorant pup.
+1
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Hereiam on August 20, 2018, 10:09:46 PM
Some of the shite on social media in relation to this is hard to read. It all reflects badly on our nation when you see what people will post, and you would expect better from the gaa community tbh
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: IolarCoisCuain on August 20, 2018, 10:14:35 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 05:07:19 PM
If the "sketch" drew reference to your daughter who had been tragically murdered, I'm not sure you would be so understanding or forgiving. I know I wouldn't be.
The cnut should have been given the road.

There is a parallel to be drawn with the Barry McIlduff thing. Although I think this is worse as we know RTE were having a swipe at Harte. McIlduff might have just really fcuked up.

Either way, slán.

I've never got the feeling that Mickey wanted Murray given the road. I think he just wanted RTÉ to say sorry like they meant it. What does it say about RTÉ that they couldn't manage that?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.

There are plenty who disagree as well.... I cheered Meath???? wise up man ffs....
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.

There are plenty who disagree as well.... I cheered Meath???? wise up man ffs....

Apologies I though you were "The big dog"
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:39:18 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.

There are plenty who disagree as well.... I cheered Meath???? wise up man ffs....

Apologies I though you were "The big dog"

No problem......
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: armaghniac on August 20, 2018, 10:40:02 PM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
it was 7 f**king years ago get over it Mickey,
WTF is wrong with people on this board!
That "sketch" came 7 months after his daughter was brutally murdered on her honeymoon. He and his family were in the depths of grief when this was broadcast to the nation. For me, that is something that any man would struggle to "get over" in his lifetime never mind in "7 f**king years".
You are some ignorant pup.

The point being that RTÉ had huge coverage of Michaela's death, and not by the sports department. It wasn't that anyone wasn't aware of the situation.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.

There are plenty who disagree as well.... I cheered Meath???? wise up man ffs....

Apologies I though you were "The big dog"
lmfao! this place gets better and better. love it. big togs and big dogs. where would u get it?lol. trueblue in that big of a rush to defend harte he not sure anymore who he replying to.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:46:57 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 20, 2018, 10:43:08 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:37:41 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:33:46 PM
Quote from: trueblue1234 on August 20, 2018, 10:30:38 PM
Quote from: bigtogs on August 20, 2018, 10:13:18 PM
Mickey Harte should never be forced to deal with Rte..... But as a county we should be cutting some deal with RTE, all off this looks bad on our County and looks like Mickey is dictating to all in around on the incident whether he is or not... 13 DAYS before an all Ireland final we should be talking about football not this....
As a county I would hope we would back our own manager in a dispute where he was the victim of a personal vindictive media attack rather than bowing down to make it easy for RTE. And there's plenty of neutral people who agree with MH on this. Your anti Harte agenda has been clear on here for a long time so I'm not surprised to see you twist this to try and make Harte look like the bad guy. No doubt you'll be cheering Dublin on come September like you cheered for Meath.

There are plenty who disagree as well.... I cheered Meath???? wise up man ffs....

Apologies I though you were "The big dog"
lmfao! this place gets better and better. love it. big togs and big dogs. where would u get it?lol. trueblue in that big of a rush to defend harte he not sure anymore who he replying to.
When it comes to you, I'm definitely not sure which I'm dealing with.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Main Street on August 21, 2018, 12:05:41 AM
Quote from: hardstation on August 20, 2018, 09:50:20 PM
Quote from: Orchard park on August 20, 2018, 05:22:26 PM
it was 7 f**king years ago get over it Mickey,
WTF is wrong with people on this board!
That "sketch" came 7 months after his daughter was brutally murdered on her honeymoon. He and his family were in the depths of grief when this was broadcast to the nation. For me, that is something that any man would struggle to "get over" in his lifetime never mind in "7 f**king years".
You are some ignorant pup.
I think the genuine emotion of a father's grief is being used to colour perception of this stand off with rte.
The issue with the sketch is mainly with Murray not RTE. Murray claimed he had a lengthy telephone call with Mickey a few days afterwards and Mickey had accepted his apologies and accepted that the use of the tyrone girl song was inadvertent
To my interpretation, the highly insensitive bit in that parody sketch was the reference to the Dalai Lama.
Hadn't Mickey attended a talk by the Dalai Lama with his son in law and the theme was forgiveness?
Still I seriously doubt that Murray was somehow in on the RTE conspiracy to embarrass Mickey.

Mickey's  issue with RTE is with the leak of that letter and all the the attention that was drawn to it cast Mickey in a poor light. Most if not all in Tyrone GAA  fully  believed that RTE were lying through their teeth and had leaked the letter deliberately to embarrass Mickey.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2018, 12:20:47 AM
Is that a rhetorical question?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 12:26:04 AM
Indignation has a sell-by date.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trileacman on August 21, 2018, 12:34:29 AM
I've no problem with Hartes position as I think it was a very dirty dig at Harte at the time. I'm sure you'd take affront at the thought of someone slighting the memory of your recently deceased daughter.

Likewise I can understand the players siding with the ban as it was not only a slight at your manager but also the team physiotherapist and one of their fellow players. I'm hate the way they can't receive man of the match awards and the like etc. but at the same time I can completely understand the blackout with RTE. I hope it ends next year but I'd understand if they stick to their guns too.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trileacman on August 21, 2018, 12:44:44 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 21, 2018, 12:21:49 AM
Off the football field, there are a number of issues that Mickey Harte holds that I wouldn't agree with, but he's very well entitled to hold such positions bar the letter to RTÉ about Brian Carthy's position in the sports department- that was a case of him and other signatories sticking their nose in where it wasn't their business.

However what I do know is this - if I had a son or daughter that was recently murdered while on their honeymoon and a short while after burying them I hear a presenter doing a "satirical" sketch on a mid-morning show on the most popular national station in Ireland that also is the flagship radio station of the country's public broadcaster, make a complaint to them and then get palmed off with a mealy mouthed apology, I'd have absolutely no problem telling anyone who works for the broadcaster that wants to speak to me to f**k off. And when they get there, f**k off again, then f**k off some more and keep f**king off until they return back to where they started and then they can f**k off for another indefinite period.

And at the risk of those accusing me of playing the "oppressed nordie" card (which I'm not, as this could apply to most counties outside of NI or Ulster), I can safely say that if Mickey Harte at the time of the incident was the senior football manager for Dublin, then RTÉ's management would have been going apeshit & kicking arses out of Donnybrook with P45's attached to them rather than just issuing a statement "apologising for any offence caused".

Likewise RTE wouldn't dare producing such an insulting skit had it been directed at a Leinster or Ireland rugby coach. Rte has always drawn clear distinctions between upstanding metropolitan peoples and the unwashed culchie hordes of the GAA.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 01:00:37 AM
If it was me I was speak to them....make sure it was live...then tell them what a pack of D4 West Brit rugby toffs they are, top to bottom.
And I would give them the same spiel every time they asked for an interview.
And that would be apology or no apology

Mickey in fairness to him is far more dignified and quite right in his actions. The players are showing their support to him for the insulting disrespect afforded to him
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trileacman on August 21, 2018, 01:17:23 AM
RTE are almost universally despised on here so I can't imagine there are any players on any county team out there who have much time for them. I wouldn't say on a personal level the players could really give a rats arse about what TSG thinks or has to say about them. At the end of the day they're playing to fulfill childhood ambitions, they're doing this for themselves, their families and for their team-mates. It's their respect and approval their seeking to earn not a wind tunnel  like Brolly or Bernard Flynn.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.

Forget your tyrone prejudices. Rte is one of a small number of free to air channels available in Ireland. It's the best of those channels by far in terms of content. There are lots of people who cannot afford sky, virgin or any of the pay tv options which can be very expensive. Rte is an essential public broadcaster which provides a very good service in the main. I have a couple of elderly aunts and uncles who live in the south and they totally rely on rte.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: haranguerer on August 21, 2018, 08:36:52 AM
Quote from: Fionntamhnach on August 21, 2018, 12:21:49 AM
Off the football field, there are a number of issues that Mickey Harte holds that I wouldn't agree with, but he's very well entitled to hold such positions bar the letter to RTÉ about Brian Carthy's position in the sports department- that was a case of him and other signatories sticking their nose in where it wasn't their business.

However what I do know is this - if I had a son or daughter that was recently murdered while on their honeymoon and a short while after burying them I hear a presenter doing a "satirical" sketch on a mid-morning show on the most popular national station in Ireland that also is the flagship radio station of the country's public broadcaster, make a complaint to them and then get palmed off with a mealy mouthed apology, I'd have absolutely no problem telling anyone who works for the broadcaster that wants to speak to me to f**k off. And when they get there, f**k off again, then f**k off some more and keep f**king off until they return back to where they started and then they can f**k off for another indefinite period.

And at the risk of those accusing me of playing the "oppressed nordie" card (which I'm not, as this could apply to most counties outside of NI or Ulster), I can safely say that if Mickey Harte at the time of the incident was the senior football manager for Dublin, then RTÉ's management would have been going apeshit & kicking arses out of Donnybrook with P45's attached to them rather than just issuing a statement "apologising for any offence caused".

I concur
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.

Forget your tyrone prejudices. Rte is one of a small number of free to air channels available in Ireland. It's the best of those channels by far in terms of content. There are lots of people who cannot afford sky, virgin or any of the pay tv options which can be very expensive. Rte is an essential public broadcaster which provides a very good service in the main. I have a couple of elderly aunts and uncles who live in the south and they totally rely on rte.

It's not free to air.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 21, 2018, 09:00:13 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 12:26:04 AM
Indignation has a sell-by date.

Imagine if you had a son/daughter. Would you be so forgiving if the national broadcaster did a sketch about him/her if him/her died?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 21, 2018, 09:03:40 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.

Forget your tyrone prejudices. Rte is one of a small number of free to air channels available in Ireland. It's the best of those channels by far in terms of content. There are lots of people who cannot afford sky, virgin or any of the pay tv options which can be very expensive. Rte is an essential public broadcaster which provides a very good service in the main. I have a couple of elderly aunts and uncles who live in the south and they totally rely on rte.

Would somebody please think of Lennys elderly aunt and uncle in all this!! What sort of civilised society takes away someone's right to see interviews at a banquet after a sporting event?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
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Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dire Ear on August 21, 2018, 09:13:02 AM
He's some pup talking about prejudices !!!!  Biased and bitter,  ...and from Derry too- no wonder he's pissed off  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: screenexile on August 21, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.

Forget your tyrone prejudices. Rte is one of a small number of free to air channels available in Ireland. It's the best of those channels by far in terms of content. There are lots of people who cannot afford sky, virgin or any of the pay tv options which can be very expensive. Rte is an essential public broadcaster which provides a very good service in the main. I have a couple of elderly aunts and uncles who live in the south and they totally rely on rte.

It's not free to air.

It is in the North!!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 09:56:44 AM
Quote from: screenexile on August 21, 2018, 09:53:02 AM
Quote from: mrdeeds on August 21, 2018, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:37:48 AM
Quote from: redhandefender on August 21, 2018, 01:30:12 AM
RTE is probably the worst channels on tv atm. Production value is brutal and it's like a step back in time. Streaming player is worthless.

I personally couldn't care less if they speak to them or not.

Forget your tyrone prejudices. Rte is one of a small number of free to air channels available in Ireland. It's the best of those channels by far in terms of content. There are lots of people who cannot afford sky, virgin or any of the pay tv options which can be very expensive. Rte is an essential public broadcaster which provides a very good service in the main. I have a couple of elderly aunts and uncles who live in the south and they totally rely on rte.

It's not free to air.

It is in the North!!

Not in South. Well it's free for about 25% of people who don't bother paying the fee.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Captain Scarlet on August 21, 2018, 10:42:14 AM
There are a fair few pages on this, but I don't think another issue has been raised on this...

Your daughter has been murdered and RTE are broadcasting in front of your house and I am also told (feel free to confirm or not) that they approached him repeatedly for interviews using personal contacts when he was looking to be left alone.

The sketch was the icing on the cake if that is true.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 21, 2018, 10:53:37 AM
Quote from: haranguerer on August 20, 2018, 03:49:34 PM
When someone has went through something that horrendous, you shouldn't be doing anything that could be considered even close to offensive, and if you inadvertently do, then you should go grovelling to them.

I can't imagine they'd have considered a skit about Lottie Ryan not long after Gerrys death, and certainly not with a song that could be interpreted as referring to him

I 100% detest Mickey Harte but this is true.  Anyone suggesting that he just get over it would want to be having a look at themselves.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: weareros on August 21, 2018, 11:54:10 AM
Agreed. Harte well within his rights never to speak to RTE again and disturbing there was no one in an executive/producer position in RTE with the judgement to know that that piece of muck  should never have seen the light of day.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rosnarun on August 21, 2018, 12:07:12 PM
Quote from: Captain Scarlet on August 21, 2018, 10:42:14 AM
There are a fair few pages on this, but I don't think another issue has been raised on this...

Your daughter has been murdered and RTE are broadcasting in front of your house and I am also told (feel free to confirm or not) that they approached him repeatedly for interviews using personal contacts when he was looking to be left alone.

The sketch was the icing on the cake if that is true.
Rotten if True.
But its hard to see what he is achieving at this point 7 years  on . is he using it as part of a siege mentality ? as a crutch to hang on to Michelas memory and sees this as part of righting that wrong?
but I really think  for himself  he needs to forgive. it cant be doing him or the rest of the Family any good to hold a Grudge for so long?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: yellowcard on August 21, 2018, 12:18:57 PM
Mickey Harte has every right to feel aggrieved but he does appear to be an incredibly stubborn man who does not forget. i seem to vaguely remember from reading his book how he fell out with his own club and then helped set up a rival team because of it. So he was never likely to back down on this boycott and I don't expect that he ever will. It was very insensitive at the time and who could really blame him.

However it is a very personal issue to him and I don't think that he should be dictating Tyrone GAA's policy on media access. Surely that is down to the county board to set the agenda and not Mickey Harte. 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 21, 2018, 01:11:17 PM
I think Harte has every right to be aggrieved over the sketch incident and should his decision to boycott TTE be based on that then it's perfectly justified. The Brian Carthy thing is none of his or any other signatories of the 4 pager to RTE's business. I don't understand however why the boycott extends to the entire Tyrone county set up but it does prove 1 thing. If he exerts that much influence in Tyrone then the decision to narrow the pitch at Healy Park before the Dublin match couldn't have better made without his knowledge or approval and his attempts to lie about that were totally wrong
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 01:14:06 PM
Quote from: yellowcard on August 21, 2018, 12:18:57 PM
Mickey Harte has every right to feel aggrieved but he does appear to be an incredibly stubborn man who does not forget. i seem to vaguely remember from reading his book how he fell out with his own club and then helped set up a rival team because of it. So he was never likely to back down on this boycott and I don't expect that he ever will. It was very insensitive at the time and who could really blame him.

However it is a very personal issue to him and I don't think that he should be dictating Tyrone GAA's policy on media access. Surely that is down to the county board to set the agenda and not Mickey Harte.

The unfortunate problem around ballygawley and the split go way beyond Mickey Harte.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: joemamas on August 21, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?

Surely you jest.

I would argue that his pre prepared crap, took away from the Limerick victory on Sunday. at the final whistle, he just could have shut up and let the cameras and crowd celebrating run its course. A picture tells a thousand words ....

Sometimes I feel like the powers to be are having a good laugh with the quality of product they present for the GAA.
Especially commentary and co- commentary.

If they really were serious about the GAA product and wanted to go with their A game, then Darragh Moloney would be commentating on the semi-finals and finals of both codes full stop. I would also let him choose somebody he would like to provide color commentary, not the usual suspects.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?

"Do you have to, do you have to, do you have to let it linger"

Yes I get the reference and the link but really???
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Christmas Lights on August 21, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?

"Do you have to, do you have to, do you have to let it linger"

Yes I get the reference and the link but really???

You're joking me right?  Where people upset about that? 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 01:53:06 PM
You just know it'll be Marty and Dolan. Horrible to listen to both of them.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.

Their apology, unless I'm mistaken, was 'If you were offended, we're sorry you were offended'. That's not an apology, that's weasel stuff.
Don't think it was as weak as stated. They stated they recognised it was offensive to him and thus sincerely regret any offence caused. Some people I think the second part (i.e. any offence caused) which on its own is very weak, but when read in full, I think it's a full apology. Of course, totally up to Mickey whether to accept or not.
No question the presenter was very badly at fault, but maybe holding a grudge against RTE so long is a bit much. It's not like the presenter was told by RTE to do it.

Apology in full:

RTÉ Radio 1′s John Murray Show presents, each morning, a satirical and humorous synopsis of the day's big news stories. On June 9 the programme covered a widely reported controversy involving Mickey Harte.

RTÉ understands and appreciates that the item offended Mr Harte. It is never RTÉ's intention to knowingly offend any individual, and RTÉ sincerely regrets any offence caused. This sincere regret was immediately and personally communicated to Mr Harte by RTÉ management.

RTÉ wishes to clarify that it did not leak the contents of the letter referred to in today's statement by the Tyrone GAA Senior Football Management and Players. RTÉ treated the correspondence as private and confidential, and was mindful of the need for discretion in all public statements it was called upon to make.

It is RTÉ's hope that, in the public interest of all those who follow gaelic games, the matter can be resolved.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 02:14:31 PM
Quote from: Christmas Lights on August 21, 2018, 01:45:15 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 01:42:50 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?

"Do you have to, do you have to, do you have to let it linger"

Yes I get the reference and the link but really???

You're joking me right?  Where people upset about that?

Not upset no. Its just cringe 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: CD on August 21, 2018, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.

Their apology, unless I'm mistaken, was 'If you were offended, we're sorry you were offended'. That's not an apology, that's weasel stuff.
Don't think it was as weak as stated. They stated they recognised it was offensive to him and thus sincerely regret any offence caused. Some people I think the second part (i.e. any offence caused) which on its own is very weak, but when read in full, I think it's a full apology. Of course, totally up to Mickey whether to accept or not.
No question the presenter was very badly at fault, but maybe holding a grudge against RTE so long is a bit much. It's not like the presenter was told by RTE to do it.

Apology in full:

RTÉ Radio 1′s John Murray Show presents, each morning, a satirical and humorous synopsis of the day's big news stories. On June 9 the programme covered a widely reported controversy involving Mickey Harte.

RTÉ understands and appreciates that the item offended Mr Harte. It is never RTÉ's intention to knowingly offend any individual, and RTÉ sincerely regrets any offence caused. This sincere regret was immediately and personally communicated to Mr Harte by RTÉ management.

RTÉ wishes to clarify that it did not leak the contents of the letter referred to in today's statement by the Tyrone GAA Senior Football Management and Players. RTÉ treated the correspondence as private and confidential, and was mindful of the need for discretion in all public statements it was called upon to make.

It is RTÉ's hope that, in the public interest of all those who follow gaelic games, the matter can be resolved.
They regret that  Mickey Harte found it offensive, not that it happened. Typical weasel faced ass pr and marketing department guff.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jinxy on August 21, 2018, 03:08:37 PM
Quote from: CD on August 21, 2018, 02:40:34 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:00:33 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 04:19:13 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 20, 2018, 04:16:57 PM
Quote from: AZOffaly on August 20, 2018, 03:41:16 PM
It was well out of order. At worst, it was a calculated insult because Mickey Harte had clashed with RTE before. At best, it was inconsiderate, and ignorant of the circumstances.

RTE should have apologised for it, in a real way, rather than the 'if you took offense we're sooooo soooorrrry'.

They did apologise, what do you want? The dj in question sacked? That's obviously what harte wanted or carthy installed as big game commentator. It was one person on rte who was insensitive towards the harte family but of course he holds a vendetta against the whole company.

Their apology, unless I'm mistaken, was 'If you were offended, we're sorry you were offended'. That's not an apology, that's weasel stuff.
Don't think it was as weak as stated. They stated they recognised it was offensive to him and thus sincerely regret any offence caused. Some people I think the second part (i.e. any offence caused) which on its own is very weak, but when read in full, I think it's a full apology. Of course, totally up to Mickey whether to accept or not.
No question the presenter was very badly at fault, but maybe holding a grudge against RTE so long is a bit much. It's not like the presenter was told by RTE to do it.

Apology in full:

RTÉ Radio 1′s John Murray Show presents, each morning, a satirical and humorous synopsis of the day's big news stories. On June 9 the programme covered a widely reported controversy involving Mickey Harte.

RTÉ understands and appreciates that the item offended Mr Harte. It is never RTÉ's intention to knowingly offend any individual, and RTÉ sincerely regrets any offence caused. This sincere regret was immediately and personally communicated to Mr Harte by RTÉ management.

RTÉ wishes to clarify that it did not leak the contents of the letter referred to in today's statement by the Tyrone GAA Senior Football Management and Players. RTÉ treated the correspondence as private and confidential, and was mindful of the need for discretion in all public statements it was called upon to make.

It is RTÉ's hope that, in the public interest of all those who follow gaelic games, the matter can be resolved.
They regret that  Mickey Harte found it offensive, not that it happened. Typical weasel faced ass pr and marketing department guff.

Yep.
No acknowledgement that the piece itself was in incredibly poor taste.
Either apologise properly or don't apologise at all.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.

I don't think the phrase "it's beginning to follow them round like a bad smell" was ever used for those other counties.

Sure even when Galway reverted to a defensive style this year we were told by a senior RTE analyst it's because one of the back from staff is from Tyrone!

Another senior RTE pundit referred to a defensive Mickey Harte style of play the week Tyrone racked up 3-20 and 4-24.

Honestly I hate a silly conspiracy theory more than anyone but RTEs attitude to Tyrone borders on ridiculous.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 03:11:33 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 21, 2018, 01:29:39 PM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 21, 2018, 12:18:16 AM
Quote from: thejuice on August 20, 2018, 10:35:03 PM
I don't recall the sketch while I don't particularly care to listen to it, I don't think Mickey is obliged to to speak to RTE and considering that they haven't shown Marty Morrissey the gate just goes to show what a joke the organization really is. He loses nothing by it. They do. There are other media avenues nowadays.

As for MH and his faith, well I stand by him in that regard too though my beliefs are probably different to his. I might be getting this wrong but for Catholics and Christians generally you are not implored to forgive those who show no contrition. In the scripture that is fairly consistent with a few exceptions.

What's the problem with Marty?

Surely you jest.

I would argue that his pre prepared crap, took away from the Limerick victory on Sunday. at the final whistle, he just could have shut up and let the cameras and crowd celebrating run its course. A picture tells a thousand words ....

Sometimes I feel like the powers to be are having a good laugh with the quality of product they present for the GAA.
Especially commentary and co- commentary.

If they really were serious about the GAA product and wanted to go with their A game, then Darragh Moloney would be commentating on the semi-finals and finals of both codes full stop. I would also let him choose somebody he would like to provide color commentary, not the usual suspects.

Aye, the Linger line was cringeworthy alright. But generally, Marty is dead on.

As for commentators never shutting up. I wish they'd do that more during play as well. There's no need to continually talk. JUst let the picture speak for itself.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 03:57:25 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.
I also wonder how many Tyrone people would regularly watch RTE anyway.
Presumably once Mickey retires normal service will be resumed. It was similar with General Franco.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.

I don't think the phrase "it's beginning to follow them round like a bad smell" was ever used for those other counties.

Sure even when Galway reverted to a defensive style this year we were told by a senior RTE analyst it's because one of the back from staff is from Tyrone!

Another senior RTE pundit referred to a defensive Mickey Harte style of play the week Tyrone racked up 4-24 in Croke park.

Honestly I hate a silly conspiracy theory more than anyone but RTEs attitude to Tyrone borders on ridiculous.

Bad smell
Puke football
Less than a man
Bringing the game into disrepute

When one other country has the likes of that said about them year after year then I'll start to believe that there's not a vendetta.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 05:02:37 PM
I dont know if there is a vandetta from the RTE organisation per se.
But there is certainly an unwritten rule that you can say what you want about Tyrone in a way that you couldnt about other places or people.

I believe its started from the like of O'Rourke who didn't like the slating Meath got from Tyrone after '96 and then took the opportunity to slag Tyrone off any opportunity he got. He disliked Dooher in particular, I suppose he saw him as a good man to villanise since he was the victim of a viscous assault from Meath, so if he could portray him as somehow deserving of it then it would make Martin O'Connell seem like a good ole fella. Its a tactic repeated by old school teachers to justify punishments on students so unsurprising coming form him really.... It really must have sickened him to the stomach to see Dooher lift Sam...twice

Spillane latched on to that as well, seeing what O'Rourke was getting away with so he joined in but it was all just a bit of a laugh until we sickened his shite by hammering Kerry out the gate in 03. 05 & 08 musta really broke him.

Then you have Brolly following up on all of that. Firstly he is from Derry so he hates Tyrone as a rule. And then he is an egomaniac and loves the attention of saying controversial things. Clown!

So with these three leading the charge with a weekly tirade against Tyrone and getting broadcast uncensored and unchallenged the rest of RTE and indeed the country think they can say what they like about Tyrone and Mickey Harte. Can you imagine what would have happened that DJ if Mickey Harte was the Dublin or (especially) Lenister rugby manager? Actually even if he was an unknown Joe Soap? He would be picking a boot out of his hole on his way to the dole office.

For me the thing about the sketch is not the "Pretty Little Girl from Omagh" which on its own would likely to have been perceived to be incidental, its the bit about the Dali Lama. Everyone knows why he and his son in law were going to the Dali Lama. The sketch was specifically poking fun at their grief recovery which is completely outrageous.

I would have have to say that the DJ knew exactly what he was doing but he thought that he could it anyway and get away with it.. and guess what???... he was right.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.

I don't think the phrase "it's beginning to follow them round like a bad smell" was ever used for those other counties.

Sure even when Galway reverted to a defensive style this year we were told by a senior RTE analyst it's because one of the back from staff is from Tyrone!

Another senior RTE pundit referred to a defensive Mickey Harte style of play the week Tyrone racked up 4-24 in Croke park.

Honestly I hate a silly conspiracy theory more than anyone but RTEs attitude to Tyrone borders on ridiculous.

Bad smell
Puke football
Less than a man
Bringing the game into disrepute

When one other country has the likes of that said about them year after year then I'll start to believe that there's not a vendetta.
Jayop could you analyse what has been said about the other 31 counties and Kilkenny on RTE since 2003 so we can come to your conclusion. Eamonn O'Hara lambasted Kevin Walsh one time without going near Tyrone.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 05:20:24 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 04:16:44 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 03:10:44 PM
Quote from: Hound on August 21, 2018, 02:45:08 PM
Quote from: Jayop on August 21, 2018, 02:07:25 PM
On its own I wouldn't suspect it was an intentional stroke by Rte but along with years of other personal attacks on people from the county by them over and above any critique I've heard any other county get I'm not convinced it was just down to the dj and not some higher up trying to put manners on Harte. I wouldn't put it past them for a second.
You seriously think there's someone high up in RTE who constantly reminds presenters, analysts, commentators, etc - "Make sure to have a go at the Tyrone lads again" ?

Everyone Tyronie remembers when Spillane made the puke football comment, but very few remember all the times since when he's praised Tyrone. And also don't seem to notice Cavan, Cork, Donegal, Kildare, Roscommon, etc. getting criticised.

I don't think the phrase "it's beginning to follow them round like a bad smell" was ever used for those other counties.

Sure even when Galway reverted to a defensive style this year we were told by a senior RTE analyst it's because one of the back from staff is from Tyrone!

Another senior RTE pundit referred to a defensive Mickey Harte style of play the week Tyrone racked up 4-24 in Croke park.

Honestly I hate a silly conspiracy theory more than anyone but RTEs attitude to Tyrone borders on ridiculous.

Bad smell
Puke football
Less than a man
Bringing the game into disrepute

When one other country has the likes of that said about them year after year then I'll start to believe that there's not a vendetta.
Jayop could you analyse what has been said about the other 31 counties and Kilkenny on RTE since 2003 so we can come to your conclusion. Eamonn O'Hara lambasted Kevin Walsh one time without going near Tyrone.

Yeah... and hows his RTE punditry career going now? Did he poke fun at his grief? No he criticized the job he was doing probably got a little personal and got the boot. If he did that to Mickey Harte everyone else would be joining in and having a great ole laugh about it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

No one made fun of micky harte's family tragedy so I don't see your point.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

No one made fun of micky harte's family tragedy so I don't see your point.

That's just plain old fake news right there Lenny.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 21, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

No one made fun of micky harte's family tragedy so I don't see your point.

That's just plain old fake news right there Lenny.

It's correct. John murray made fun of harte's pathetic attempt to dictate to rte about their internal promotions. He also played a song which was insensitive and clumsy but I very much doubt was deliberate. There no deliberate attempt to make fun of the tragedy.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 07:28:05 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

No one made fun of micky harte's family tragedy so I don't see your point.

That's just plain old fake news right there Lenny.

It's correct. John murray made fun of harte's pathetic attempt to dictate to rte about their internal promotions. He also played a song which was insensitive and clumsy but I very much doubt was deliberate. There no deliberate attempt to make fun of the tragedy.

Not true, RTE made fun of Mickey Harte association with the Dali Lama. Whose event on forgiveness he attended with his daughter's widower, clearly part of their grieving process
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

Look everyone knows that their sketch was out of line.

Your post basically read that you don't know if it was a vendetta and then more or less went on to say why it was.

No problem with the issue re the daughter but the everyone is against us thing is bullshit. That was how your post read.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: armaghniac on August 21, 2018, 08:22:22 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
It's correct. John murray made fun of harte's pathetic attempt to dictate to rte about their internal promotions. He also played a song which was insensitive and clumsy but I very much doubt was deliberate. There no deliberate attempt to make fun of the tragedy.

You are in Barry bread on the head territory here, only more so, since everyone in RTÉ knew about Mickey's daughter as they made several programmes about it.
I'm also not happy about RTÉ pillorying people on air because they disagree with RTÉ management, that's not what I pay my licence for.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 21, 2018, 08:48:30 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 07:03:17 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 06:55:11 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 21, 2018, 06:53:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

No one made fun of micky harte's family tragedy so I don't see your point.

That's just plain old fake news right there Lenny.

It's correct. John murray made fun of harte's pathetic attempt to dictate to rte about their internal promotions. He also played a song which was insensitive and clumsy but I very much doubt was deliberate. There no deliberate attempt to make fun of the tragedy.

Another Lennyism. Talking with confidence about something he knows literally nothing about. The "sketch" as previously mentioned was taking the piss about Mickey attending an event at which the Dali Lama was present. This was a few months after the horrific murder of his daughter, he was clearly trying to find ways to come to terms with his grief. Nobody has a right to judge or ridicule another person in how they deal with such grief, nevermind on a national radio station. The song added a level of darkness to the sketch which lifted it way beyond the realms of a harmless skit and intimated that Murray knew exactly what he was doing. Now, I certainly wouldn't dictate to anyone how they react to a situation like this but I'd support any path they would chose to take. I'd suggest the Tyrone panel and county board and majority of Tyrone people feel the same, hence the continued support for his stance.  Your Lennyisms, I'm sure, are intended to try and wind up Tyrone people but in truth they show a real bitterness and jealously that appears to be gnawing at people in Derry. I hope some day you can just get over it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: armaghniac on August 21, 2018, 09:42:58 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?

No, it wouldn't. Yes for the obvious reason that they would not risk aggravating these people. But more importantly a lot of listeners would not know who they are, Micky Harte is well known outside GAA  circles because of his daughter and her death.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
Just listened back to the sketch there for the first time in a few years. Its grim stuff. Madness to think someone approved that for air.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on August 21, 2018, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?
pat gilroy or jack o connor wouldnt be stickin their noses in RTEs business either would they? mickey only himself to blame here im afraid.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bennydorano on August 21, 2018, 10:12:30 PM
100% Behind Mickey and his stance. A man I greatly admire for a reason that I can never quite put my finger on. A mixture of his stoic genuine faith, dignity in horrendous adversity and a general  refusal to roll over and die.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?

Gilroy has done little to be parody-worthy, while Jacko's preening is much more subtle and only GAA anoraks are really aware of it. Harte has been a good source of material with his Godsaveus stuff and butter-wouldn't-melt public persona. Which is made all the worse when he's overseen the most cynical (at times brutally so) team the sport has ever seen. Comedy usually focuses on hypocrisies so of course there's a bullseye on Harte's arse when it comes to GAA skits.

Don't fall for the Tyronie 'they're all out to us' guff, Bunker.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on August 21, 2018, 10:51:17 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
Just listened back to the sketch there for the first time in a few years. Its grim stuff. Madness to think someone approved that for air.
Where did you find it?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Lamh Dhearg Alba on August 21, 2018, 10:57:40 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 21, 2018, 09:44:08 PM
Just listened back to the sketch there for the first time in a few years. Its grim stuff. Madness to think someone approved that for air.

Indeed, I find it incredible that it was broadcast. Having made such a crass blunder, there should have been a proper apology. It's ridiculous that it still hasn't been resolved, but RTE are totally to blame.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rrhf on August 21, 2018, 10:59:15 PM
None of your business. Lads can anyone stick a link up to the radio link. Couldn't believe how cruel it appeared at the time. Heads should have rolled.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 11:00:07 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 08:20:22 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 06:17:13 PM
Quote from: imtommygunn on August 21, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Des Cahill lured him into that to try and get some headlines.

There is a real Jose Mourinho siege mentality with tyrone sometimes. Tyrone's own supporters are even critical of Harte's style of football. It's not that appealing on the eye so if it was anyone it would be slated. To be fair it has got a lot better.

Jim McGuinness and Donegal got equally as much criticism whenever they were playing football which appealed to no-one but themselves and they struggled to shake the stigma off. This is pretty much where Tyrone are at too I would say.

Nice attempt at a straw man, the thread is about RTE treament of Mickey Harte in regardess a personal tragedy in his life.

If you want to compare can you recall RTE ever poking fun at JMG's family tragedy?

Look everyone knows that their sketch was out of line.

Your post basically read that you don't know if it was a vendetta and then more or less went on to say why it was.

No problem with the issue re the daughter but the everyone is against us thing is bullshit. That was how your post read.

I said that RTE probably didnt have a vendetta but that a few pundits did, starting with O'Rourke, and including specifically Spillane and Brolly.
Spillane probably the least in fairness, he thought Tyrone were a joke based on O'Rourke's bashing and then was just raggin that they hammered Kerry and won AIs
My point is they were allowed to continually slam Tyrone, make personal attacks on the players and manager, denigrate females from Tyrone. And that culture then permeated RTE and indeed much of the press in the South. Tyrone and Mickey Harte could be the butt of everyone's joke was the attitude. It was that culture that made the DJ in question believe he could do something like he did and it would be ok....and it was!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 21, 2018, 11:07:10 PM
Here's another thing about the apology

IF the DJ had apologised for not playing the Pretty Little Girl from Omagh which Harte agreed with him was likely incidental (tho Im not quite so sure myself) then did he even acknowledge the Dali Lama reference?

And if he did, did he try to pass that off as incidental and "apologised for any offence caused" as well?  If he did then I would have to say he is lying thru his teeth. It was quite deliberate and an unconditional public apology should have been issued.

Feck the more you think about it it really is unbelievable that heads didnt roll for that....

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Whishtup on August 21, 2018, 11:09:08 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on August 21, 2018, 09:49:42 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?
pat gilroy or jack o connor wouldnt be stickin their noses in RTEs business either would they? mickey only himself to blame here im afraid.

Surely, you should be able to write a strongly worded letter to a broadcaster without being publicly vindicated and having the worst/unimaginable of fresh wounds reopened?  It seems that there was a 'Croppies Lie Down' stance taken by RTE by their sneaky antics around this time and for many this is unforgiveable.  Whilst I feel it doesn't do us any good,  I can't see how we could do anything else in respect for Mickey.  The easiest thing to do is not always the right thing to do.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: red hander on August 21, 2018, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?

Gilroy has done little to be parody-worthy, while Jacko's preening is much more subtle and only GAA anoraks are really aware of it. Harte has been a good source of material with his Godsaveus stuff and butter-wouldn't-melt public persona. Which is made all the worse when he's overseen the most cynical (at times brutally so) team the sport has ever seen. Comedy usually focuses on hypocrisies so of course there's a bullseye on Harte's arse when it comes to GAA skits.

Don't fall for the Tyronie 'they're all out to us' guff, Bunker.

You're to be pitied rather than condemned  ::)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Rossfan on August 22, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Syferus embarrassing us once more. :-[
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 22, 2018, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Syferus embarrassing us once more. :-[

Nah mate he's embarrassing only himself. He no more speaks for all of Ross than Lenny speaks for all of Derry. There's plenty of dumb pricks here from Tyrone too and they sure as f**k don't speak for me.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 05:46:18 AM
Quote from: red hander on August 21, 2018, 11:18:06 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?

Gilroy has done little to be parody-worthy, while Jacko's preening is much more subtle and only GAA anoraks are really aware of it. Harte has been a good source of material with his Godsaveus stuff and butter-wouldn't-melt public persona. Which is made all the worse when he's overseen the most cynical (at times brutally so) team the sport has ever seen. Comedy usually focuses on hypocrisies so of course there's a bullseye on Harte's arse when it comes to GAA skits.

Don't fall for the Tyronie 'they're all out to us' guff, Bunker.

You're to be pitied rather than condemned  ::)

I wish people would stop replying to him because i end up reading the posts.

But I couldn't help but laugh at the attempt to get an anonymous online friend though anti-Tyrone camaraderie....aww bless
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Farrandeelin on August 22, 2018, 07:25:33 AM
Quote from: Syferus on August 21, 2018, 10:50:40 PM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 21, 2018, 09:09:08 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 21, 2018, 08:18:59 PM
Were Tyrone paranoid when they were winning all Irelands or did it develop afterwards?

This skit would never be done on Pat Gilroy or Jack O'Connor.  It wouldn't?

Gilroy has done little to be parody-worthy, while Jacko's preening is much more subtle and only GAA anoraks are really aware of it. Harte has been a good source of material with his Godsaveus stuff and butter-wouldn't-melt public persona. Which is made all the worse when he's overseen the most cynical (at times brutally so) team the sport has ever seen. Comedy usually focuses on hypocrisies so of course there's a bullseye on Harte's arse when it comes to GAA skits.

Don't fall for the Tyronie 'they're all out to us' guff, Bunker.

Aye. It's 'comedy' the sketch was based on.  Take off your glasses and think about that.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 08:11:58 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 22, 2018, 04:22:19 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 22, 2018, 12:43:28 AM
Syferus embarrassing us once more. :-[

Nah mate he's embarrassing only himself. He no more speaks for all of Ross than Lenny speaks for all of Derry. There's plenty of dumb pricks here from Tyrone too and they sure as f**k don't speak for me.

Don't worry rossfan. Syferus speaks for you as much as southtyronegael speaks for me ;)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: highorlow on August 22, 2018, 11:29:11 AM
QuoteGilroy has done little to be parody-worthy, while Jacko's preening is much more subtle and only GAA anoraks are really aware of it. Harte has been a good source of material with his Godsaveus stuff and butter-wouldn't-melt public persona. Which is made all the worse when he's overseen the most cynical (at times brutally so) team the sport has ever seen. Comedy usually focuses on hypocrisies so of course there's a bullseye on Harte's arse when it comes to GAA skits.

Don't fall for the Tyronie 'they're all out to us' guff, Bunker.

All a bit ironic coming from someone who was willing to jail 2 innocent men earlier in the year without hearing the full story.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Applesisapples on August 22, 2018, 11:37:33 AM
I've just listened to the sketch there for the first time. Firstly it isn't funny but I fail to see how it makes fun of Michaela's murder. The playing of the song was crass and insensitive. Having relatives who have lost children I can understand though why Mickey Harte would have found it upsetting. Whether it was intentional or not I don't know.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: highorlow on August 22, 2018, 12:27:59 PM
QuoteWhether it was intentional or not I don't know.

The Kevin Meyers defence.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 01:23:58 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 22, 2018, 11:37:33 AM
I've just listened to the sketch there for the first time. Firstly it isn't funny but I fail to see how it makes fun of Michaela's murder. The playing of the song was crass and insensitive. Having relatives who have lost children I can understand though why Mickey Harte would have found it upsetting. Whether it was intentional or not I don't know.

It poked fun at Mickey Hartes way of dealing with the grieving process more so than the murder itself. Not sure if that is any better by the way.
Him and the son in law had been to meet the Dalai lama the week before as part of that. Some people may scoff but if it helps him then it shouldn't be mocked.
It was crass, insensitive and honestly if someone had done that on me I wouldn't speak to them again either. Especially after the way RTE mishandled the clean up.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.

.... and your opinion on mocking his grieving process? Which is were my grievance would lie?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.

.... and your opinion on mocking his grieving process? Which is were my grievance would lie?

Surely the Dalai lama thing pales in comparison to the song, no? As I said, the whole "sketch" was stupid, unfunny and idiotic. It was correctly removed from the RTE website and apologised for by Radio 1. I fail to see why any of this would stop Tyrone speaking with the Sunday game. It's akin to saying you wouldn't speak to BBC NI's GAA show because of Jeremy Paxman or something.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.

.... and your opinion on mocking his grieving process? Which is were my grievance would lie?

Surely the Dalai lama thing pales in comparison to the song, no? As I said, the whole "sketch" was stupid, unfunny and idiotic. It was correctly removed from the RTE website and apologised for by Radio 1. I fail to see why any of this would stop Tyrone speaking with the Sunday game. It's akin to saying you wouldn't speak to BBC NI's GAA show because of Jeremy Paxman or something.

If Jeremy Paxman did what John Murray did and wasn't sacked, rather he was allowed to carry on his show for several years and is still employed, then no Tyrone would not speak to BBC.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 04:17:20 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.

.... and your opinion on mocking his grieving process? Which is were my grievance would lie?

Surely the Dalai lama thing pales in comparison to the song, no? As I said, the whole "sketch" was stupid, unfunny and idiotic. It was correctly removed from the RTE website and apologised for by Radio 1. I fail to see why any of this would stop Tyrone speaking with the Sunday game. It's akin to saying you wouldn't speak to BBC NI's GAA show because of Jeremy Paxman or something.

Eh no....Are you aware of why Mickey Harte was associated witht the Dali Lama at that time?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Under Lights on August 22, 2018, 04:18:56 PM
Mickey wouldn't allow any of the Errigal players speak to TG4 in the run up to the Ulster Final either, its in his book. The fall out is an excuse to promote seige mentality and also reduce the distractions to his team.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: screenexile on August 22, 2018, 04:34:03 PM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 04:09:02 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:51:38 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: Ciarrai_thuaidh on August 22, 2018, 03:30:36 PM
Quote from: Mikhail Prokhorov on August 21, 2018, 11:07:23 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIL2DcHN6ow)

First time ever hearing the bit.
1.It's completely unfunny and John Murray is a twat.
2.It's quite clear to anyone with a brain that the tune used is solely because it has Tyrone in its title, no other reason..BUT somebody should have had the cop on to realise it might be best not use THAT tune in the circumstances.
3.If a 1 minute sketch on Radio 1 6 years ago is the sole reason Mickey Harte refuses to talk to the Sunday game to this day, then that is stupid in my view. One has nothing to do with the other and Harte knows that.
4.The truth of course is that this all partially goes back to the Brian Carthy thing, where a county manager got the hump because his favourite commentator didn't get given a certain job by RTE. A fairly ridiculous expectation on Mickey Harte's behalf by any stretch of the imagination.
5.Refusing to deal with RTE will mean a massively reduced media commitment pre-final, so only helps Tyrone really and helps build the siege mentality, which is what Harte wants anyway you'd think.

.... and your opinion on mocking his grieving process? Which is were my grievance would lie?

Surely the Dalai lama thing pales in comparison to the song, no? As I said, the whole "sketch" was stupid, unfunny and idiotic. It was correctly removed from the RTE website and apologised for by Radio 1. I fail to see why any of this would stop Tyrone speaking with the Sunday game. It's akin to saying you wouldn't speak to BBC NI's GAA show because of Jeremy Paxman or something.

If Jeremy Paxman did what John Murray did and wasn't sacked, rather he was allowed to carry on his show for several years and is still employed, then no Tyrone would not speak to BBC.

Sacked??!! Wise up!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 04:50:19 PM
Sad state of affairs, what happens if they win the AI and the banquet is hosted by RTE etc will they not turn up speak to the cameras; supporters want to hear from the players and the management he is not punishing RTe but alot of GAA supporters are missing out here.

If he wasnt manager would the ban still be in place?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 22, 2018, 04:59:23 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 04:50:19 PM
Sad state of affairs, what happens if they win the AI and the banquet is hosted by RTE etc will they not turn up speak to the cameras; supporters want to hear from the players and the management he is not punishing RTe but alot of GAA supporters are missing out here.

If he wasnt manager would the ban still be in place?

There's any number of interviews on TTM and a host of other online channels. I think they should arrange with TTM to stream the banquet on their website for an hour or so that evening. I don't think fans will lose out too much.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 05:01:31 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 04:50:19 PM
Sad state of affairs, what happens if they win the AI and the banquet is hosted by RTE etc will they not turn up speak to the cameras; supporters want to hear from the players and the management he is not punishing RTe but alot of GAA supporters are missing out here.

If he wasnt manager would the ban still be in place?

For the last effing time.... RTE are not the only media outlet to cover the football. I guarantee you teamtalkmag will likely have a hundred page pullout if we win the all Ireland filled with interviews and features. Don't worry Sweeper, I'll make sure there's one kept over for you.

That's not to mention Sky, Newstalk, Irish news, etc covering it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Who am i kidding anyways, the Dubs will be doing all the interviews after the match
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dire Ear on August 22, 2018, 05:19:05 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Who am i kidding anyways, the Dubs will be doing all the interviews after the match
Sure whatever rocks yer boat, sweetcheeks!! ;D
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Blowitupref on August 22, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Who am i kidding anyways, the Dubs will be doing all the interviews after the match

Jim Gavins interviews are not to be missed. What he said after the All Ireland semi final.

"Great to be in the All Ireland final, they don't come along very often"

I'm more convinced than ever that Mr Gavin is a robot that was manufactured in 2010 when getting to finals wasn't very often for Dublin..
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 06:47:31 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/comment-rte-statement-is-designed-to-inflict-maximum-damage-on-tyrone-ahead-of-all-ireland-final-37239439.html
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
So what the issue here, is Harte looking a proper apology from RTE for the Sketch (which he should have got) or for not giving Carty a job (which he should have no say in anyway) Did he give an apology to the woman in the McCusker character reference? He`s on shaky ground boycotting Rte for what happened, then on the other hand seemed to have no problem, giving a reference for a serious criminal offence which a man was jailed for.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 22, 2018, 10:01:19 PM
Quote from: Blowitupref on August 22, 2018, 05:41:45 PM
Quote from: Sweeper 123 on August 22, 2018, 05:11:46 PM
Who am i kidding anyways, the Dubs will be doing all the interviews after the match

Jim Gavins interviews are not to be missed. What he said after the All Ireland semi final.

"Great to be in the All Ireland final, they don't come along very often"

I'm more convinced than ever that Mr Gavin is a robot that was manufactured in 2010 when getting to finals wasn't very often for Dublin..

As Colm Cooper pointed out. They've been in 6 out of the last 8.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 23, 2018, 12:51:51 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
So what the issue here, is Harte looking a proper apology from RTE for the Sketch (which he should have got) or for not giving Carty a job (which he should have no say in anyway) Did he give an apology to the woman in the McCusker character reference? He`s on shaky ground boycotting Rte for what happened, then on the other hand seemed to have no problem, giving a reference for a serious criminal offence which a man was jailed for.

Why are you bothered?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on August 23, 2018, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 06:47:31 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/comment-rte-statement-is-designed-to-inflict-maximum-damage-on-tyrone-ahead-of-all-ireland-final-37239439.html

That journo cannot have wrote that seriously, right? It reads like something from Waterford Whispers.

Cringy stuff.

Careful lads, the southerners are teaming up to get the nordies..
Title: Rte - are we elevating their importance in the modern era? No banquet who cares?
Post by: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 09:16:31 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 08:56:52 AM
Quote from: Wildweasel74 on August 22, 2018, 08:47:48 PM
So what the issue here, is Harte looking a proper apology from RTE for the Sketch (which he should have got) or for not giving Carty a job (which he should have no say in anyway) Did he give an apology to the woman in the McCusker character reference? He`s on shaky ground boycotting Rte for what happened, then on the other hand seemed to have no problem, giving a reference for a serious criminal offence which a man was jailed for.
When the Gaelic games PlayStation game out the players didn't support it for their own reasons  it's hardly coming up 7 or 8 years later. RTE have consistently targeted and picked away at Tyrone Gaa and many  of its aspects as it has many other aspects of Gaa and indeed other teams. It continues to do so and that is their prerogative. It is also the prerogative of anyone to deprioritise their importance etc. I listen and hear the likes of some of rte paid employees how they are the national broadcaster and deserve a higher platform and respect than other media platforms. That type of output not only displays arrogance but insults the intelligence of freethinking Irish people. Go and prove that you are the best, innovate and be accurate! Rtes promotions of Gaelic games in my opinion restricts its growth and markets it at a lower level than other sports and the blindness of the gaa as a whole to this is remarkable.  In my opinion that respect has to be earned - accross the board it has failed to excite and earn my respect for many years now and just like other institutions the Irish people used to cow down to, it no longer holds that position and like all media and news corporations could probably end up privatised in the medium term. I watch Rtes coverage of sport as I watch Fox News. I form my own opinion as to what level it sits at. No more no less but backing them as more important than off the ball, joe.ie, the Irish times or sky - I will not. I am for a liberal Ireland with no hang ups and lessons from the past, rte like the church, like the politicians and like the paid top brass in the GAA earn their respect in the here and now and their plans for going the future and not on 30 years of up for the match and drunken banquets. Last year the coverage of the banquet featured young lads drunk and in high spirits making eejits of themselves and that jovial precious space after an all Ireland should not make for broadcasting in my opinion. Why do they not broadcast rugby banquets after matches?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dire Ear on August 23, 2018, 11:34:36 AM
I have more respect for M Harte than I do for RTE on this
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: yellowcard on August 23, 2018, 11:43:20 AM
I'm totally with Mickey Harte on his stance that he has taken, I would just take issue with how Tyrone county board have allowed him to hijack the entire county's stance on allowing RTE media access to other members of the team and management. Harte does at least have plenty of interesting opinions to offer when he does speak even if I often don't always agree with them.

Jim Gavin does tend to get away with murder by the media when you consider how he answers some of the questions asked. He might argue that he has absolutely no obligation to give them anything other than a few cliched soundbites but God his press conferences are the most mundane, boring, robotic affairs you are likely to see. It is part of why this Dublin team are admired but never loved. All about the process and the next game and how (insert some random county who are Dublin's next cannon fodder) are a great side.

Everything appears to be so joyless, even the reaction to winning. I'm sure there are plenty of players in the Dublin setup who would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't for the constraints placed on them by team management. 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: redhandefender on August 23, 2018, 02:02:19 PM
Everyone can have their views but the only people that matter are Tyrone people on this.

The vast majority couldn't care less about RTE. They provide an awful service in the north anyway (and in general if truth be told).

The new sports guy in sounds promising but they are light years behnd other mainstream channels.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Applesisapples on August 23, 2018, 03:01:50 PM
I hope Sky step in to the banquet if Tyrone by some miracle win.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: JoG2 on August 23, 2018, 03:12:49 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

What the utter fcuk? Answer me one question, have you historically had a Sky subscription?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jinxy on August 23, 2018, 03:28:42 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

It's a bit early in the day to be drinking...
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: yellowcard on August 23, 2018, 04:32:45 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

Don't be ridiculous. You should apply for a job in Croke Park.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 23, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.

Owned by murdoch. No right minded working class catholic/nationalist should be giving that man a penny. Shame on the tyrone supporters here calling for more games on sky.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 23, 2018, 07:15:15 PM
What a miracle dickhead. "Tyrone supporters" Pathetic.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 07:24:26 PM
« Everybody hates us and wants to shaft us » is a group psychology model used in politics and sometimes in sport. The Turkish leader Erdogan is a master at convincing his rural voters that Turkish secularists and the Americans have it in for them. Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean the bastards wouldn't do it. 
Fox does it in the US to red state voters.
The model needs a martyr as well.
I don't think the people of Tyrone are any different to the people of any other county (bar maybe Kildare.) When Mickey goes so will
« Everybody hates us and wants to shaft us ». Most people couldn't care less about counties other than their own.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 07:30:34 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 23, 2018, 07:24:26 PM
« Everybody hates us and wants to shaft us » is a group psychology model used in politics and sometimes in sport. The Turkish leader Erdogan is a master at convincing his rural voters that Turkish secularists and the Americans have it in for them. Just because you are paranoid doesn't mean the b**tards wouldn't do it. 
Fox does it in the US to red state voters.
The model needs a martyr as well.
I don't think the people of Tyrone are any different to the people of any other county (bar maybe Kildare.) When Mickey goes so will
« Everybody hates us and wants to shaft us ». Most people couldn't care less about counties other than their own.

Your making this up yourself.
What Tyrone posters have said that Everybody hates us? The thread is about RTE treatment of Mickey Harte... and its poor.
You and a few other posters keep taking about paranoia when the subject is discussed, yous are the ones with a warped perception of reality
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: red hander on August 23, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 23, 2018, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 06:47:31 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/comment-rte-statement-is-designed-to-inflict-maximum-damage-on-tyrone-ahead-of-all-ireland-final-37239439.html

That journo cannot have wrote that seriously, right? It reads like something from Waterford Whispers.

Cringy stuff.

Careful lads, the southerners are teaming up to get the nordies..

Makes a change from yis deserting us in 1921  >:(
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I just listening to the Tyrone sketch again and I am not 100% sure if it was mean't to be any more than a dig at Harte for getting involved in the Brian Carthy dispute.  The sketch itself seemed half rehearsed.

Could the writers have came in that morning looking for something topical for the 9am show and been told to put something together taking the p1ss out of Mickey for his letter putting conditions on RTE before he would speak to them.

Play a feature on Tyrones tourist attractions (it'll be short)
Song (Pretty little girl from Omagh)
..

The script writers would probably have been sitting round a table at 8am trying to think of a song related to Tyrone and someone said 'Pretty little girl from Omagh?' and without anyone engaging there brain properly said yeah that will do.  It was obviously incredibly insensitive but I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was more stupid than sinister.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.

Owned by murdoch. No right minded working class catholic/nationalist should be giving that man a penny. Shame on the tyrone supporters here calling for more games on sky.
None of my business but it Sounds like you boycott them...
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Aaron Boone on August 23, 2018, 08:50:04 PM
Quote from: red hander on August 23, 2018, 07:46:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on August 23, 2018, 03:06:28 AM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 22, 2018, 06:47:31 PM
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/comment-rte-statement-is-designed-to-inflict-maximum-damage-on-tyrone-ahead-of-all-ireland-final-37239439.html

That journo cannot have wrote that seriously, right? It reads like something from Waterford Whispers.

Cringy stuff.

Careful lads, the southerners are teaming up to get the nordies..

Makes a change from yis deserting us in 1921  >:(

I thought Declan put it well when he said it's RTE reignited the fire themselves. Why email the press release at 9am Monday clashing with Tyrone's media day to which RTE  were invited.

Wonder what John Murray thinks of it all now. That daily show was axed in July 2015.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 23, 2018, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.

Owned by murdoch. No right minded working class catholic/nationalist should be giving that man a penny. Shame on the tyrone supporters here calling for more games on sky.
None of my business but it Sounds like you boycott them...

I have never given a penny to murdoch either to sky or his newspapers. Any person with working class values should resent giving any money to him or his empire.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I just listening to the Tyrone sketch again and I am not 100% sure if it was mean't to be any more than a dig at Harte for getting involved in the Brian Carthy dispute.  The sketch itself seemed half rehearsed.

Could the writers have came in that morning looking for something topical for the 9am show and been told to put something together taking the p1ss out of Mickey for his letter putting conditions on RTE before he would speak to them.

Play a feature on Tyrones tourist attractions (it'll be short)
Song (Pretty little girl from Omagh)
..

The script writers would probably have been sitting round a table at 8am trying to think of a song related to Tyrone and someone said 'Pretty little girl from Omagh?' and without anyone engaging there brain properly said yeah that will do.  It was obviously incredibly insensitive but I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was more stupid than sinister.

Thats fine, most people agree (and it seems Mickey did too) but what about the Dali Lama reference...?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I just listening to the Tyrone sketch again and I am not 100% sure if it was mean't to be any more than a dig at Harte for getting involved in the Brian Carthy dispute.  The sketch itself seemed half rehearsed.

Could the writers have came in that morning looking for something topical for the 9am show and been told to put something together taking the p1ss out of Mickey for his letter putting conditions on RTE before he would speak to them.

Play a feature on Tyrones tourist attractions (it'll be short)
Song (Pretty little girl from Omagh)
..

The script writers would probably have been sitting round a table at 8am trying to think of a song related to Tyrone and someone said 'Pretty little girl from Omagh?' and without anyone engaging there brain properly said yeah that will do.  It was obviously incredibly insensitive but I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was more stupid than sinister.

Thats fine, most people agree (and it seems Mickey did too) but what about the Dali Lama reference...?
Similar.  Taking the p1ss out of Mickey for being a 'Holy Joe' without thinking through why Mickey felt the need to see the Dali Lama.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:15:18 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I just listening to the Tyrone sketch again and I am not 100% sure if it was mean't to be any more than a dig at Harte for getting involved in the Brian Carthy dispute.  The sketch itself seemed half rehearsed.

Could the writers have came in that morning looking for something topical for the 9am show and been told to put something together taking the p1ss out of Mickey for his letter putting conditions on RTE before he would speak to them.

Play a feature on Tyrones tourist attractions (it'll be short)
Song (Pretty little girl from Omagh)
..

The script writers would probably have been sitting round a table at 8am trying to think of a song related to Tyrone and someone said 'Pretty little girl from Omagh?' and without anyone engaging there brain properly said yeah that will do.  It was obviously incredibly insensitive but I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was more stupid than sinister.

Thats fine, most people agree (and it seems Mickey did too) but what about the Dali Lama reference...?
Similar.  Taking the p1ss out of Mickey for being a 'Holy Joe' without thinking through why Mickey felt the need to see the Dali Lama.
I find that impossible to believe, No.1 it was well publicised that Mickey and John McAreavey went to the Dali Lama's seminar on forgiveness. Anyone who knew he went to see the Dali Lama knew why he was there!

And No.2 I don't think that the Dali Lama would be the first way youd think to poke fun at Mickey Harte's faith... it would Lough Derg or a daily rosary or something.
 
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 23, 2018, 10:21:13 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 10:04:41 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 09:56:43 PM
Quote from: Maiden1 on August 23, 2018, 08:21:10 PM
I just listening to the Tyrone sketch again and I am not 100% sure if it was mean't to be any more than a dig at Harte for getting involved in the Brian Carthy dispute.  The sketch itself seemed half rehearsed.

Could the writers have came in that morning looking for something topical for the 9am show and been told to put something together taking the p1ss out of Mickey for his letter putting conditions on RTE before he would speak to them.

Play a feature on Tyrones tourist attractions (it'll be short)
Song (Pretty little girl from Omagh)
..

The script writers would probably have been sitting round a table at 8am trying to think of a song related to Tyrone and someone said 'Pretty little girl from Omagh?' and without anyone engaging there brain properly said yeah that will do.  It was obviously incredibly insensitive but I'd be inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt and say it was more stupid than sinister.

Thats fine, most people agree (and it seems Mickey did too) but what about the Dali Lama reference...?
Similar.  Taking the p1ss out of Mickey for being a 'Holy Joe' without thinking through why Mickey felt the need to see the Dali Lama.

It's not good enough that it "wasn't thought through"!! It's the national broadcaster ffs, about a man who had just lost his daughter in the most horrific way a few short months previously. These people should have a duty to think these feckin things through. It wouldn't have taken much thought, there's isn't a person in the country around that time who wouldn't immediately think of what happened to Michaela when Mickey Harte's name was mentioned. Wtf is wrong with people?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:32:00 PM
Should Tyrone lose, or especially if they win, I'd love to see the Apres Match boys do a "virtual banquet" complete with whissshhhtly Ulsssshhhter accents, like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjEkjeVzL34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjXUCM9K04

Properly rip the piss out them. RTE might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb.

Nooooyyyyy.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 23, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:32:00 PM
Should Tyrone lose, or especially if they win, I'd love to see the Apres Match boys do a "virtual banquet" complete with whissshhhtly Ulsssshhhter accents, like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjEkjeVzL34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjXUCM9K04

Properly rip the piss out them. RTE might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb.

Nooooyyyyy.

If Tyrone win there won't be a person in the county who would give one tiny fcuk what RTE might do. They'd be better leaving it to the normal Sunday Game panel anyway as footage of them trying to make sense of it all would be much funnier than anything the Apres Match lads could come up with.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 23, 2018, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.

What's an 'Ulster' accent?  I've never heard one.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: Franko on August 23, 2018, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.

What's an 'Ulster' accent?  I've never heard one.

As far as the rest of Ireland is concerned, the sicheeeayshun is that all Ulster people have the same accent, and all those who speak with it are equally unintelligible.

Aye.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 11:35:22 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: Franko on August 23, 2018, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.

What's an 'Ulster' accent?  I've never heard one.

As far as the rest of Ireland is concerned, the sicheeeayshun is that all Ulster people have the same accent, and all those who speak with it are equally unintelligible.

Aye.

Naw the skangers think the rest of Ireland all sound the same
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 23, 2018, 11:35:58 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 11:14:11 PM
Quote from: Franko on August 23, 2018, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.

What's an 'Ulster' accent?  I've never heard one.

As far as the rest of Ireland is concerned, the sicheeeayshun is that all Ulster people have the same accent, and all those who speak with it are equally unintelligible.

Aye.

I'd venture that anyone who couldn't distinguish between an Antrim, Armagh, Monaghan or Donegal accent could be described as a little moronic.  But don't worry, you're not alone.  According to your spokesperson, there's 4-odd million of you who are equally unintelligent.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Rossfan on August 24, 2018, 12:05:22 AM
Anyone who thinks there's one accent in Donegal  (or Armagh) hasn't got out much. ;)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 24, 2018, 12:07:03 AM
Quote from: Franko on August 23, 2018, 10:54:41 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:47:29 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on August 23, 2018, 10:36:53 PM
... may as well be doin it on Dublin with accents like that
The Apres Match boys absolutely nail the Ulster accent.

They also insert just the right tone of dour religious fundamentalist defensiveness into it.

I occasionally read some posts by dour, humourless Ulster contributors to this forum in my mind with such an accent.

I won't name names, though.

What's an 'Ulster' accent?  I've never heard one.

Is it Derry? Or Belfast? Or Cavan? Or West Tyrone/Donegal? Maybe its the south Armagh/Dundalk accent they mean?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 24, 2018, 12:09:51 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on August 24, 2018, 12:05:22 AM
Anyone who thinks there's one accent in Donegal  (or Armagh) hasn't got out much. ;)

Could you point out anyone that thinks this?  Apart from Sid and everyone in Leinster, Connacht and Munster, that is.

You didn't really think this one through, did you?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 24, 2018, 12:10:19 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

Michael Duignan disapproves of this post.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: From the Bunker on August 24, 2018, 12:37:07 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

Only problem is the 'Product' you are looking at promoting is MUCK!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rrhf on August 24, 2018, 07:23:01 AM
I'm increasing revenue through ppv / sky. Free to air gaa coverage through tg4 in Irish and reducing ticket prices and increasing attendances. I don't love sky but at the moment there is duplication and rte have lower quality standards. Anyone with tg4 can see the games.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Redhand Santa on August 24, 2018, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 24, 2018, 12:37:07 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

Only problem is the 'Product' you are looking at promoting is MUCK!

There has been a media driven campaign to market the games as muck led by rte. There currently aren't enough good games at the minute and not enough competitive games. But there are still plenty of cracking football matches. Even in a poor championship campaign I can think of some great games such as Laois Wexford, Mayo Kildare, Roscommon Armagh, Monaghan Kerry, Galway Kildare. There were also some great underdog stories during the summer such as wins for Carlow over Kildare, Longford over Meath, and Fermanagh over Monaghan. As a Tyrone fan I really enjoyed our games with Meath and Donegal, though I'm not sure the atmosphere really came across on tv. Our first round loss to Monaghan was another very good game.

You could list out a number of very poor games over the summer or one sided matches. But you could do that in any sport. I'd like to see the ratio of good games improve though.

For some reason in the gaa we expect every game to be brilliant and if it's not football is finished, it's a weird mentality. There'll be plenty of great club and underage games played throughout the year including for example the u20 final or Nemo beating Slaughtneil. The national league also had plenty of decent games.

I think part of the negativity stems from the fact that when people's own counties aren't going well the first thing people do is try to criticise the game generally.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Sweeper 123 on August 24, 2018, 09:05:34 AM
Quote from: Redhand Santa on August 24, 2018, 08:28:01 AM
Quote from: From the Bunker on August 24, 2018, 12:37:07 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

Only problem is the 'Product' you are looking at promoting is MUCK!

There has been a media driven campaign to market the games as muck led by rte. There currently aren't enough good games at the minute and not enough competitive games. But there are still plenty of cracking football matches. Even in a poor championship campaign I can think of some great games such as Laois Wexford, Mayo Kildare, Roscommon Armagh, Monaghan Kerry, Galway Kildare. There were also some great underdog stories during the summer such as wins for Carlow over Kildare, Longford over Meath, and Fermanagh over Monaghan. As a Tyrone fan I really enjoyed our games with Meath and Donegal, though I'm not sure the atmosphere really came across on tv. Our first round loss to Monaghan was another very good game.

You could list out a number of very poor games over the summer or one sided matches. But you could do that in any sport. I'd like to see the ratio of good games improve though.

For some reason in the gaa we expect every game to be brilliant and if it's not football is finished, it's a weird mentality. There'll be plenty of great club and underage games played throughout the year including for example the u20 final or Nemo beating Slaughtneil. The national league also had plenty of decent games.

I think part of the negativity stems from the fact that when people's own counties aren't going well the first thing people do is try to criticise the game generally.

lol - who you kidding
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Applesisapples on August 24, 2018, 09:42:34 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.

Owned by murdoch. No right minded working class catholic/nationalist should be giving that man a penny. Shame on the tyrone supporters here calling for more games on sky.
None of my business but it Sounds like you boycott them...

I have never given a penny to murdoch either to sky or his newspapers. Any person with working class values should resent giving any money to him or his empire.
I don't have any values, let alone working class values, its Sky all the way... Sure Radio Eireann shaft us Nordies every chance they get. National Broadcaster my arse.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Franko on August 24, 2018, 09:42:39 AM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 03:03:22 PM
I would do a much bigger deal with sky or ppv increasing potential access and revenue give tg4 the magazine programmes clubs and ladies as a product and
Let them develop that.. there could be a strong arguement made that tg4 could cover delayed games in Irish commentary and that mightn't annoy sky too much as well. With more money I would reduce ticket prices to those who go to games so attendances will increase and if they want only give rte the banquet, up for the match and the Marty squad and the odd late late tribute show to the gaa on the consortium that pat kenny hosts it.let's Move on. Get a proper platform of magazine coverage through sky but for sky to flourish rte probably need to be cut out.

This belongs in the WTF thread.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: giveballaghback on August 24, 2018, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Applesisapples on August 24, 2018, 09:42:34 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 09:05:13 PM
Quote from: rrhf on August 23, 2018, 08:41:03 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 23, 2018, 06:52:02 PM
Quote from: skeog on August 23, 2018, 04:37:07 PM
Sky is a British consortium bit strange it has gael support.

Owned by murdoch. No right minded working class catholic/nationalist should be giving that man a penny. Shame on the tyrone supporters here calling for more games on sky.
None of my business but it Sounds like you boycott them...

I have never given a penny to murdoch either to sky or his newspapers. Any person with working class values should resent giving any money to him or his empire.
I don't have any values, let alone working class values, its Sky all the way... Sure Radio Eireann shaft us Nordies every chance they get. National Broadcaster my arse.
A british broadcaster for a british audience, maybe thats the solution.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 24, 2018, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how annoyed are you about your neighbours reaching their 6th all Ireland final?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 24, 2018, 11:53:29 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 23, 2018, 10:41:27 PM
Quote from: sid waddell on August 23, 2018, 10:32:00 PM
Should Tyrone lose, or especially if they win, I'd love to see the Apres Match boys do a "virtual banquet" complete with whissshhhtly Ulsssshhhter accents, like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjEkjeVzL34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOjXUCM9K04

Properly rip the piss out them. RTE might as well be hung for a sheep as for a lamb.

Nooooyyyyy.

If Tyrone win there won't be a person in the county who would give one tiny fcuk what RTE might do. They'd be better leaving it to the normal Sunday Game panel anyway as footage of them trying to make sense of it all would be much funnier than anything the Apres Match lads could come up with.

The thought of this gave me a good laugh.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 25, 2018, 12:01:31 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

Thank you Lar.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: From the Bunker on August 25, 2018, 01:00:52 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

Would totally agree with that! It is real cringe stuff when you listen back. RTE letting it go through on air in the first place beggars belief.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 25, 2018, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

Well said Lar, it really was a shameful little piece of vindictive venom, ill becoming of any institution that has designs on being anything more than a pretty parochial irrelevance in the grander scheme of things.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: grounded on August 25, 2018, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

My thinking on this myself. Whatever the rights and wrongs(it was wrong in my opionion) of mh and the other managers sending that letter it was private and should have been treated as such by rte. They leaked it and then used it to poke fun of a man who had just lost his daughter in such tragic circumstances. To compound matters they've refused to gave a meaningful apology to this date.
          I dont know how they could remedy this at this stage.  Id say a good first step would be to publicly say that sketch was crass, insensitive and hurtful and apologise properly to the man.
          Probably too much water has flown under the bridge since then and the Rte top brass wouldnt like to stoop so low. Id say they are just hoping mh will retire soon.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 25, 2018, 12:04:53 PM
Quote from: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 25, 2018, 10:16:46 AM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

Well said Lar, it really was a shameful little piece of vindictive venom, ill becoming of any institution that has designs on being anything more than a pretty parochial irrelevance in the grander scheme of things.


Bit over the top there, Fear. Imagine judging Tyrone on one tackle. There is always room for nuance. Like Mugsy's dummies.

It is a pity the issue is so polarising.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on August 25, 2018, 12:10:23 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 25, 2018, 12:04:53 PM
Bit over the top there, Fear. Imagine judging Tyrone on one tackle. There is always room for nuance. Like Mugsy's dummies.

It is a pity the issue is so polarising.

This wasn't an isolated incident, they have form, and not just with ourselves.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: joemamas on August 25, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
Quote from: Lar Naparka on August 24, 2018, 11:59:58 PM
Quote from: lenny on August 24, 2018, 11:14:23 PM
Quote from: Gabriel_Hurl on August 24, 2018, 07:16:50 PM
PTG's take on it - https://www.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/peter-canavan-you-could-interpret-the-timing-of-rts-statement-this-week-as-trying-to-put-pressure-on-tyrone-37246678.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Ffs, more everyone's out to get us. Harte is really gonna milk this paranoia to whip the players into a frenzy.
This is one time when I back Mickey Harte and all of Tyrone by the looks of it, 100%.
The "sketch" wasn't funny  and, even if it was, the timing wasn't coincidental; it was meant to poke fun at a man still trying to come to terms with his recent, terrible loss.
Any self-respecting individual would upset by the by the content and timing of this pathetic attempt to raise a laugh at a bereaved parent's grief.
RTE's failure to make any meaningful attempt to apologise for the uncalled for insult or to reprimand the so-called "comedian" should be remembered also.

They covered themselves more in shit than glory on this one.

+1.
A classless shower of pricks at best
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Ambrose on August 25, 2018, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 25, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
A classless shower of pricks at best

That's Tyrone in a nutshell. Tyrone for Psalm
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: rrhf on August 25, 2018, 09:47:04 PM
100%. Shower of bastards.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 25, 2018, 11:35:48 PM
Quote from: Ambrose on August 25, 2018, 08:32:33 PM
Quote from: joemamas on August 25, 2018, 06:09:25 PM
A classless shower of pricks at best

That's Tyrone in a nutshell. Tyrone for Psalm

Psalm number 4.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.

Could be Benny but living in the county and being involved with the club scene I don't hear to much annoyance about the RTE thing plenty off people who have an issue about how the team has been managed over last few years but on the RTE issue that transcends football and I do think Mickey does have the support of the vast majority of Tyrone people. Somethings are beyond the pale and RTEs treatment of the Harte family at the time was reprehensible and unforgiveable regardless if they felt aggrieved by Mickeys interference in internal appointments. Much as you might feel that Tyrone people are split on this issue because they might have issues with Mickeys management you will find you are way off the mark. When it comes to the important things in life like family a community will always support their own. You are wrong to think otherwise.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.

Could be Benny but living in the county and being involved with the club scene I don't hear to much annoyance about the RTE thing plenty off people who have an issue about how the team has been managed over last few years but on the RTE issue that transcends football and I do think Mickey does have the support of the vast majority of Tyrone people. Somethings are beyond the pale and RTEs treatment of the Harte family at the time was reprehensible and unforgiveable regardless if they felt aggrieved by Mickeys interference in internal appointments. Much as you might feel that Tyrone people are split on this issue because they might have issues with Mickeys management you will find you are way off the mark. When it comes to the important things in life like family a community will always support their own. You are wrong to think otherwise.

No I'm not saying the county is split down the middle on this. I was drawing attention to you saying the whole county was behind Harte, when it's difficult to say that for certain. It's even difficult to say the whole CB is behind him too, given recent contract issues.

It's a bit like saying all of Ireland were in favour of the same sex marriage vote, when 750,000 actually voted No. You just don't hear the views of the No's. Ok maybe that's not a great example, but you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 01:05:14 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:53:30 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:31:02 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 26, 2018, 12:04:49 AM
Quote from: BennyCake on August 25, 2018, 11:47:51 PM
Quote from: SkillfulBill on August 25, 2018, 09:17:13 PM
I fully respect Mickeys stance on RTE. I am no Harte supporter when it comes to how he has had Tyrone play in the past and possibly in the future. However when faced with such family tragedy and for the national broadcaster to have been so insensitive towards this and to actually facilitate and support such a personal attack was totally unacceptable.  The players have chosen to fully respect an support their manager in this and that has to be applauded.  This is no longer an issue for Tyrone people  and is the one issue that you will find that Mickey has the full support of his family the county board his players and the people of Tyrone.Fcuk RTE and Tir Eoghan Abu

Has the county board stated such?

Unless you've asked everyone in the county, you can't say such things.

If the county board have any major issues with it they would have replaced Mickey years ago. I don't hear to many people from the county kicking up much fuss over it in support of RTE and if the opinions on this board are reflective of the opinions in the county then yes the people of Tyrone are generally unconcerned by it. Just because you may hold another view on it does not mean you are not in a small minority who hold that view.

Well, there was contract issues with Mickey in the last 2/3 years. There was a point where it was unclear he'd be kept on. Maybe the rte thing was an issue? Who knows.

To be honest, good results and good c'ship season helps people forget such things. If McGeeney was winning us Ulsters and getting us to AI semis/final, people wouldn't give a hoot if he was strangling kittens on a Friday night.

Just because you haven't heard anyone complain don't mean there's nobody complaining. You could be just talking to the wrong people.

Could be Benny but living in the county and being involved with the club scene I don't hear to much annoyance about the RTE thing plenty off people who have an issue about how the team has been managed over last few years but on the RTE issue that transcends football and I do think Mickey does have the support of the vast majority of Tyrone people. Somethings are beyond the pale and RTEs treatment of the Harte family at the time was reprehensible and unforgiveable regardless if they felt aggrieved by Mickeys interference in internal appointments. Much as you might feel that Tyrone people are split on this issue because they might have issues with Mickeys management you will find you are way off the mark. When it comes to the important things in life like family a community will always support their own. You are wrong to think otherwise.

No I'm not saying the county is split down the middle on this. I was drawing attention to you saying the whole county was behind Harte, when it's difficult to say that for certain. It's even difficult to say the whole CB is behind him too, given recent contract issues.

It's a bit like saying all of Ireland were in favour of the same sex marriage vote, when 750,000 actually voted No. You just don't hear the views of the No's. Ok maybe that's not a great example, but you know what I mean.

Ok Benny with out the need for a plebiscite on the issue would it be ok for me to say from my experience it would appear that a majority of the county board and the majority of the people of Tyrone who may have an opinion on the matter appear to have little or no issue with the stance taken by the Tyrone team not to co operate with RTE. Not quite sure what your issue may be in regards to my opinion of the general consensus with the county on the subject but there you have it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: give her dixie on August 26, 2018, 01:20:31 AM
Peter Canavan: All of Tyrone united behind RTE ban

August 24 2018

If you have never been there then it is hard to judge. So if Mickey Harte decides that he doesn't want to deal with RTE after a tasteless sketch on radio then I think Tyrone people are okay with that. Being honest, whether the Tyrone football team co-operate with the broadcaster is not something that consumes us in the county.

Probably the only surprise about this whole episode was that it became a story this week. Monday's statement only confirmed what we already knew. RTE were not welcome in Garvaghey. That's been the way of things since 2011.

Confusion reigned over the leaking of the letter to RTE regarding Brian Carthy's role, and whatever your take on that, the sketch was wrong. Plain and simple. I think there's a broad acceptance of that.

In Mickey's eyes, the response after that was inadequate. You can only imagine the pain he was going through at the time and how much worse that made things. The aftermath wasn't dealt with in a satisfactory manner so Mickey felt he had to make a stand. I think people here know he's a principled man and they admire him for that. People know what Mickey and his family have gone through and fully understand his decision.

So, in truth, the news was there was no news. RTE breathed life into a non-story with their statement. It was released at just the same time the Tyrone All-Ireland press day was kicking off.

You could say that seeing as we are preparing for an All-Ireland final they had to clarify their position with relation to their coverage of the biggest game of the year. However, if you were of a more sinister mind, you could interpret the statement, and in particular its timing, as something designed to put pressure on Mickey and the team.

I know there were moves afoot a few years ago to try and bring the dispute to an end. Mickey wasn't for moving and the players followed suit. They went to the county board and told them they were going to stand behind Mickey. It's not like they are being made to do this against their will. It was out of a sense of loyalty to their manager.

And once you are out of that group, then you're free to do what you want. You see that with a few former Tyrone footballers working with RTE in a variety of guises. And I know Mickey has no issue with those players now.

I've been asked a few times if this row is part of an ongoing unease between Tyrone football and RTE that can be traced back to the 'puke football' comment and on to the 'following them around like a bad smell' line from Colm O'Rourke and maybe a few other barbs in between.

And there probably are those who feel Tyrone are regularly on the receiving end, whether this is due to their disengagement with RTE or their style of football, one never knows.

Honestly, I think, as a county, we are past that. We know now that when you are at the top table, people talk about you in very different ways. It just comes with the territory. You can see a bit of that in the way the conversation around this Dublin team has changed. For many, the top dogs are there to have their chain yanked.

There's a new man at the top of RTE sport now in Declan McBennett, who is of a GAA pedigree. His initial soundbites have been positive. He's come out and stated that personal attacks won't be tolerated. And maybe time will help heal that wound but it really hasn't been given much oxygen in the county this week. It seems like it's a bigger issue for other parts of the island than for Tyrone.

We're more interested in getting ready for the game. Mickey has proven down through the years that he's a master of getting his team right for the biggest days. And he has a track record of pulling something different out of the hat and when it comes to All-Ireland finals. This final puts two of the great modern managers against each other. Mickey is sitting on a three wins from three record in finals. Jim Gavin's is even better, having won all four of the deciders he's been in.

And these are the weeks where management teams earn their corn. When you're a player, you can only fine tune at this stage. Managers, however, are presented with a whole new set of problems and how they deal with them is key.

And the RTE row, along with distributing match tickets and organising post-match banquets and all the other little extras that come with a final, are all just distractions. In these weeks, small things can become big things quite quickly. I remember I got caught up a little with the ticket scramble before the 1995 All-Ireland final. You spend the week before the match trying to please everyone and make sure they're sorted. In that scenario, you're only wasting valuable energy.

There'll be loads of different personalties to handle this week. I have seen lads who are hyper in the build-up to a big game, other lads will be relaxed. A few will just want to be left alone with their thoughts. It's up to the manager to handle his group as he sees fit.

I see Limerick chose to travel up on the train the morning of their final. That's obviously what John Kiely felt would work for his lads. I heard Brendan Cummins tell a story about how, before an All-Ireland final, he heard the floodlights were going to be switched on. He hadn't planned for that and he said it threw him for a while.

With Tyrone back in 2005, Collie Holmes used to get a room of his own because of his sleeping habits. That's not something you want to learn when you're trying to get some rest the night before an All-Ireland final. They are small things but they're vital too.

Nervous energy will be coursing through lads and it can put you in strange situations. The day before the '05 decider, myself and a few others went for a few holes of golf. That game ended when Brian McGuigan drove a buggy into a pond in CityWest. The fact that Kevin Hughes was in the passenger seat might explain the mishap.

I read this week that in the hours before the 2008 final, Colm Cavanagh and Tyrone's sub keeper at the time, Johnny Curran, went for a few games of tennis. I know a lot of teams play cards when they are in camp. But you don't need someone losing a week's wages the night before the game either. Those are some of the little, seemingly innocuous things that can quickly become detrimental to the team if they aren't managed correctly.

And that's what both managers will be trying to do over the next week and a bit. They'll look to remove the variables, foresee any problems and head them off.

There's hundreds of little decisions to be made and whether management get them right or wrong will go a long way towards deciding whether their team plays to its potential on the big day.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tyrone/peter-canavan-all-of-tyrone-united-behind-rte-ban-37246496.html
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I want to know what Collie Holmes' sleeping habits are that require him getting a room himself!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 26, 2018, 04:33:46 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I want to know what Collie Holmes' sleeping habits are that require him getting a room himself!

Probably just snoring. I know you wouldn't want to share a room with me the night before you play in an all Ireland.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on August 26, 2018, 04:37:58 PM
Could be that sleep apnia. I once shared a room with a mate with this and rooming with someone who you think could die imminently isn't good for your sleep patterns either!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 26, 2018, 04:40:00 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on August 26, 2018, 01:20:31 AM
Peter Canavan: All of Tyrone united behind RTE ban

August 24 2018

If you have never been there then it is hard to judge. So if Mickey Harte decides that he doesn't want to deal with RTE after a tasteless sketch on radio then I think Tyrone people are okay with that. Being honest, whether the Tyrone football team co-operate with the broadcaster is not something that I consumes us in the county.

Probably the only surprise about this whole episode was that it became a story this week. Monday's statement only confirmed what we already knew. RTE were not welcome in Garvaghey. That's been the way of things since 2011.

Confusion reigned over the leaking of the letter to RTE regarding Brian Carthy's role, and whatever your take on that, the sketch was wrong. Plain and simple. I think there's a broad acceptance of that.

In Mickey's eyes, the response after that was inadequate. You can only imagine the pain he was going through at the time and how much worse that made things. The aftermath wasn't dealt with in a satisfactory manner so Mickey felt he had to make a stand. I think people here know he's a principled man and they admire him for that. People know what Mickey and his family have gone through and fully understand his decision.

So, in truth, the news was there was no news. RTE breathed life into a non-story with their statement. It was released at just the same time the Tyrone All-Ireland press day was kicking off.

You could say that seeing as we are preparing for an All-Ireland final they had to clarify their position with relation to their coverage of the biggest game of the year. However, if you were of a more sinister mind, you could interpret the statement, and in particular its timing, as something designed to put pressure on Mickey and the team.

I know there were moves afoot a few years ago to try and bring the dispute to an end. Mickey wasn't for moving and the players followed suit. They went to the county board and told them they were going to stand behind Mickey. It's not like they are being made to do this against their will. It was out of a sense of loyalty to their manager.

And once you are out of that group, then you're free to do what you want. You see that with a few former Tyrone footballers working with RTE in a variety of guises. And I know Mickey has no issue with those players now.

I've been asked a few times if this row is part of an ongoing unease between Tyrone football and RTE that can be traced back to the 'puke football' comment and on to the 'following them around like a bad smell' line from Colm O'Rourke and maybe a few other barbs in between.

And there probably are those who feel Tyrone are regularly on the receiving end, whether this is due to their disengagement with RTE or their style of football, one never knows.

Honestly, I think, as a county, we are past that. We know now that when you are at the top table, people talk about you in very different ways. It just comes with the territory. You can see a bit of that in the way the conversation around this Dublin team has changed. For many, the top dogs are there to have their chain yanked.

There's a new man at the top of RTE sport now in Declan McBennett, who is of a GAA pedigree. His initial soundbites have been positive. He's come out and stated that personal attacks won't be tolerated. And maybe time will help heal that wound but it really hasn't been given much oxygen in the county this week. It seems like it's a bigger issue for other parts of the island than for Tyrone.

We're more interested in getting ready for the game. Mickey has proven down through the years that he's a master of getting his team right for the biggest days. And he has a track record of pulling something different out of the hat and when it comes to All-Ireland finals. This final puts two of the great modern managers against each other. Mickey is sitting on a three wins from three record in finals. Jim Gavin's is even better, having won all four of the deciders he's been in.

And these are the weeks where management teams earn their corn. When you're a player, you can only fine tune at this stage. Managers, however, are presented with a whole new set of problems and how they deal with them is key.

And the RTE row, along with distributing match tickets and organising post-match banquets and all the other little extras that come with a final, are all just distractions. In these weeks, small things can become big things quite quickly. I remember I got caught up a little with the ticket scramble before the 1995 All-Ireland final. You spend the week before the match trying to please everyone and make sure they're sorted. In that scenario, you're only wasting valuable energy.

There'll be loads of different personalties to handle this week. I have seen lads who are hyper in the build-up to a big game, other lads will be relaxed. A few will just want to be left alone with their thoughts. It's up to the manager to handle his group as he sees fit.

I see Limerick chose to travel up on the train the morning of their final. That's obviously what John Kiely felt would work for his lads. I heard Brendan Cummins tell a story about how, before an All-Ireland final, he heard the floodlights were going to be switched on. He hadn't planned for that and he said it threw him for a while.

With Tyrone back in 2005, Collie Holmes used to get a room of his own because of his sleeping habits. That's not something you want to learn when you're trying to get some rest the night before an All-Ireland final. They are small things but they're vital too.

Nervous energy will be coursing through lads and it can put you in strange situations. The day before the '05 decider, myself and a few others went for a few holes of golf. That game ended when Brian McGuigan drove a buggy into a pond in CityWest. The fact that Kevin Hughes was in the passenger seat might explain the mishap.

I read this week that in the hours before the 2008 final, Colm Cavanagh and Tyrone's sub keeper at the time, Johnny Curran, went for a few games of tennis. I know a lot of teams play cards when they are in camp. But you don't need someone losing a week's wages the night before the game either. Those are some of the little, seemingly innocuous things that can quickly become detrimental to the team if they aren't managed correctly.

And that's what both managers will be trying to do over the next week and a bit. They'll look to remove the variables, foresee any problems and head them off.

There's hundreds of little decisions to be made and whether management get them right or wrong will go a long way towards deciding whether their team plays to its potential on the big day.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/sport/gaa/tyrone/peter-canavan-all-of-tyrone-united-behind-rte-ban-37246496.html
« 
It seems like it's a bigger issue for other parts of the island than for Tyrone.« 

Maybe the board is different
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: ONeill on August 26, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I want to know what Collie Holmes' sleeping habits are that require him getting a room himself!

Sleeps in Armagh pyjamas.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyCake on August 26, 2018, 04:51:57 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 26, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I want to know what Collie Holmes' sleeping habits are that require him getting a room himself!

Sleeps in Armagh pyjamas.

Maybe the missus insists on it. Otherwise no action!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 05:37:30 PM
Quote from: ONeill on August 26, 2018, 04:42:04 PM
Quote from: omagh_gael on August 26, 2018, 04:16:20 PM
I want to know what Collie Holmes' sleeping habits are that require him getting a room himself!

Sleeps in Armagh pyjamas.

There's grounds to remove his AI medals for thon.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 26, 2018, 11:07:18 PM
Tg4 tonight aired a show that RTE could only dream of. The production value was excellent and it really articulated the ups and downs of that extraordinary group of players.
This is a proper build-up to the all Ireland.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Gold on August 27, 2018, 02:54:45 AM
Fanstastic programme

What Tyrone have went through is harrowing

Harte is some man
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Owenmoresider on August 27, 2018, 09:06:41 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 26, 2018, 11:07:18 PM
Tg4 tonight aired a show that RTE could only dream of. The production value was excellent and it really articulated the ups and downs of that extraordinary group of players.
This is a proper build-up to the all Ireland.
Missed the early part of it so will have to watch it again,but it was an excellent production for sure.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: lenny on August 27, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 26, 2018, 11:07:18 PM
Tg4 tonight aired a show that RTE could only dream of. The production value was excellent and it really articulated the ups and downs of that extraordinary group of players.
This is a proper build-up to the all Ireland.

It was a good enought program but that is just a ridiculous claim and shows the incredible bias tyrone people have developed against rte. When harte goes over the next couple of years the rte boycott will very quickly be forgotten about.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: RedHand88 on August 27, 2018, 09:46:05 AM
Quote from: lenny on August 27, 2018, 09:30:32 AM
Quote from: RedHand88 on August 26, 2018, 11:07:18 PM
Tg4 tonight aired a show that RTE could only dream of. The production value was excellent and it really articulated the ups and downs of that extraordinary group of players.
This is a proper build-up to the all Ireland.

It was a good enought program but that is just a ridiculous claim and shows the incredible bias tyrone people have developed against rte. When harte goes over the next couple of years the rte boycott will very quickly be forgotten about.

It was fitting that the only negative clip from the show was a clip from RTE.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 01:39:16 PM
Very true and it was the only mistake they made leaving that bitter old bollox in there.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on August 27, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.

Wtf are you on about?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:04:38 PM
Quote from: BennyHarp on August 27, 2018, 08:51:47 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.

Wtf are you on about?

Not worth asking.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Gabriel_Hurl on August 27, 2018, 10:18:13 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.

I've read some shite on this place before - but holy ghost - wtf is this all about?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
The gas thing is we're playing Dublin this weekend and there's never any shite coming from the Dubs fans by and large. It's muppets who's own counties are that shite that hey rely on Tyrone bashing as their primary interest in GAA.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SkillfulBill on August 27, 2018, 11:02:14 PM
Quote from: seafoid on August 27, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Tyrone football is a personality cult built around the great helmsman in the great patriotic war against RTE. You could see it last year when Sean Cavanagh said a few things. The county runs a system of juche or media self reliance  It is only when Kim Jung Mickey goes that free speech will be possible.

WTF. You been on the wine ?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Hound on August 28, 2018, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
The gas thing is we're playing Dublin this weekend and there's never any shite coming from the Dubs fans by and large. It's muppets who's own counties are that shite that hey rely on Tyrone bashing as their primary interest in GAA.

It's Monaghan who are our arch enemies! - well, according to one very strange Dubs poster anyway :)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: cjx on August 28, 2018, 09:40:45 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
The gas thing is we're playing Dublin this weekend and there's never any shite coming from the Dubs fans by and large. It's muppets who's own counties are that shite that hey rely on Tyrone bashing as their primary interest in GAA.
Most Dublin fans are rambling round shopping centres,
watching Eastenders or boring English soccer
hence the lack of any coherent comment on anything from them
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Halfquarter on August 28, 2018, 09:56:42 AM
Quote from: Jayop on August 27, 2018, 10:20:18 PM
The gas thing is we're playing Dublin this weekend and there's never any shite coming from the Dubs fans by and large. It's muppets who's own counties are that shite that hey rely on Tyrone bashing as their primary interest in GAA.

Well ,Mayo will absorb some of the spare sh1te out there for a few days now !
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: armaghniac on September 01, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html


Evenyone should boycott the Info as this type of tripe is par for the course.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on September 01, 2018, 04:15:54 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on September 01, 2018, 04:06:24 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html


Evenyone should boycott the Info as this type of tripe is par for the course.

The "they said things I don't like so I will boycott them" line of thinking in Ulster long predates Donald Trump. Maybe Agent Orange is a big Armagh supporter..
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html

Absolutely nothing wrong with that article.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: delgany on September 01, 2018, 05:16:21 PM
A load of tripe !
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: skeog on September 01, 2018, 05:46:22 PM
MH taking all the limelight off his players master stroke imo.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: reddgnhand on September 01, 2018, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html

Absolutely nothing wrong with that article.

Nothing in it that hasnt been said before even in his own county.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bennydorano on September 01, 2018, 11:12:10 PM
Awful piece of journalism, McKenna spent most of the article trying to justify to himself why he was writing it imo. His contrarianism is getting tiresome, I'd say he doesn't believe half the stuff he writes himself.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Whishtup on September 02, 2018, 12:50:51 AM
Quote from: reddgnhand on September 01, 2018, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Itchy on September 01, 2018, 04:40:19 PM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on September 01, 2018, 03:10:23 PM
I assume he will boycott the Indo now too

https://m.independent.ie/sport/gaelic-games/gaelic-football/ewan-mackenna-theres-a-long-line-of-uncomfortable-truths-following-mickey-harte-that-cannot-be-shaken-off-37269637.html

Absolutely nothing wrong with that article.

Nothing in it that hasnt been said before even in his own county.

True, but how shit is this guy's writing.  An embarrassment to the keyboard.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: GalwayBayBoy on September 02, 2018, 02:48:35 AM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 01, 2018, 11:12:10 PM
Awful piece of journalism, McKenna spent most of the article trying to justify to himself why he was writing it imo. His contrarianism is getting tiresome, I'd say he doesn't believe half the stuff he writes himself.

He's an odd individual for sure. Some of his articles raise some very important points that others journos ignore but his fondness for outright character assassinations go well over the top fairly often.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: seafoid on September 02, 2018, 06:27:38 AM
https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/gaa/the-kieran-shannon-interview-mickey-harte--the-patient-pilgrim-866049.html






Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on September 02, 2018, 07:45:14 AM
Did ewan mckenna accuse someone of being sanctimonious?

Did the indo just give him more column space?

Did ewan McKenna just pilfer another wean of oxygen molecules?

Hopefully some balance can be restored to the world by 5
today
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2018, 09:17:10 AM
Keeps getting retweeted in my timeline. Utter arsehole with very little positive to add about anything.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
Doesn't seem there'll be too many queuing up to get broadcasting the Tyrone banquet tonight
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on September 02, 2018, 05:21:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 04:57:45 PM
Doesn't seem there'll be too many queuing up to get broadcasting the Tyrone banquet tonight

No doubt you've probably been planning that 'joke' for about a week.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 05:37:41 PM
Not planning it but praying for it.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:30:33 PM
Reflects how I feel Hard. Have absolutely no time for Mickey Harte and his mastery of the dark arts of gamesmanship etc.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Anyone hear that the Wylies are releasing a statement about the things that were said to them in the semi final?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Anyone hear that the Wylies are releasing a statement about the things that were said to them in the semi final?

No.
Did you?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Anyone hear that the Wylies are releasing a statement about the things that were said to them in the semi final?

No.
Did you?

Yeah heard from a couple Monaghan lads. They wanted to wait till after the final as not to distract from it.

It was concerned about their family and religion allegedly .
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Anyone hear that the Wylies are releasing a statement about the things that were said to them in the semi final?

No.
Did you?

Yeah heard from a couple Monaghan lads. They wanted to wait till after the final as not to distract from it.

It was concerned about their family and religion.
Surely just a misunderstanding on the field of play.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bamboo on September 02, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
Said to them (allegedly) by players or management?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 07:03:41 PM
Quote from: bamboo on September 02, 2018, 07:01:34 PM
Said to them (allegedly) by players or management?

Players. Drew wouldn't shake hands after game.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on September 02, 2018, 07:14:20 PM
Quote from: Aaron Boone on September 02, 2018, 07:01:15 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:52:59 PM
Quote from: Jinxy on September 02, 2018, 06:50:22 PM
Quote from: mrdeeds on September 02, 2018, 06:46:41 PM
Anyone hear that the Wylies are releasing a statement about the things that were said to them in the semi final?

No.
Did you?

Yeah heard from a couple Monaghan lads. They wanted to wait till after the final as not to distract from it.

It was concerned about their family and religion.
Surely just a misunderstanding on the field of play.

Better off dealing with same issue as Colin Regan did with Francis Grehan  almost 20 years back.....
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
Do you know what was said?
No, but hopefully we'll all find out when they release their statement. I could hazard a guess mind you
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: southtyronegael on September 02, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
I was talking to a brother of a Monaghan player and he said it was sectarian abuse. Disgusting if true and for someone from Tyrone, a county which knows all about sectarian bigotry to say such a thing on a Gaelic football field is as low as I've ever heard. Should be named and shamed.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: screenexile on September 02, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 02, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
I was talking to a brother of a Monaghan player and he said it was sectarian abuse. Disgusting if true and for someone from Tyrone, a county which knows all about sectarian bigotry to say such a thing on a Gaelic football field is as low as I've ever heard. Should be named and shamed.

No surprise!! But y'know ... nothing to do with Mickey Harte!!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
Do you know what was said?
No, but hopefully we'll all find out when they release their statement. I could hazard a guess mind you
Strange comment for someone to make when they have no idea what was said. Effectively, you hope something really bad was said to them and that they release a statement on it. Your hope for Tyrone to be cast in a negative light is much greater than any sympathy you have for the victims of verbal abuse.
Dont see how you can come to that conclusion to be honest
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:04:53 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 02, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 02, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
I was talking to a brother of a Monaghan player and he said it was sectarian abuse. Disgusting if true and for someone from Tyrone, a county which knows all about sectarian bigotry to say such a thing on a Gaelic football field is as low as I've ever heard. Should be named and shamed.

No surprise!! But y'know ... nothing to do with Mickey Harte!!
It was Sky TV's fault
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:08:32 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:05:51 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:03:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 07:35:00 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 07:29:41 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 06:50:36 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
Do you know what was said?
No, but hopefully we'll all find out when they release their statement. I could hazard a guess mind you
Strange comment for someone to make when they have no idea what was said. Effectively, you hope something really bad was said to them and that they release a statement on it. Your hope for Tyrone to be cast in a negative light is much greater than any sympathy you have for the victims of verbal abuse.
Dont see how you can come to that conclusion to be honest
As you clearly outlined that you want it to be true despite having no idea if it is or not.
Again I can't see how you came to that conclusion either.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: screenexile on September 02, 2018, 08:11:54 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:07:20 PM
Quote from: screenexile on September 02, 2018, 08:03:31 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 02, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
I was talking to a brother of a Monaghan player and he said it was sectarian abuse. Disgusting if true and for someone from Tyrone, a county which knows all about sectarian bigotry to say such a thing on a Gaelic football field is as low as I've ever heard. Should be named and shamed.

No surprise!! But y'know ... nothing to do with Mickey Harte!!
If a Tyrone player is guilty of this, I would hope he takes responsibility himself rather than saying that Mickey Harte sent me out to do it.
You boys are crazy.

Oh no that's not how it works... the lads go out to play a game and things happen and escalate but they don't mean it and Mickey would never send anyone out to do that but at the same time he's a good lad blah blah Ricey McMenin spiel rehashed!!

He can cut all that shit out if he wants but he chooses not to!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:11:37 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
I think you're stretching it to suggest from that statement a lot of the things you have insinuated, but carry on.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on September 02, 2018, 08:55:50 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:11:37 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
I think you're stretching it to suggest from that statement a lot of the things you have insinuated, but carry on.

You don't know what was said but you hope it is released - for what reason do you want something you know nothing about to be released?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: straightred on September 02, 2018, 09:05:59 PM
Quote from: southtyronegael on September 02, 2018, 07:54:34 PM
I was talking to a brother of a Monaghan player and he said it was sectarian abuse. Disgusting if true and for someone from Tyrone, a county which knows all about sectarian bigotry to say such a thing on a Gaelic football field is as low as I've ever heard. Should be named and shamed.
I heard about it the evening of the game but said nothing as i don't know what happened. The version i heard was that it was bad - if there's talk of a statement it must have been
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Smokin Joe on September 02, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
A week ago I heard that Ryan McAnespie was on the receiving end of verbal abuse during the semi-final.

It would appear that some of the Tyrone players think anything is fair game to try and get inside the head of an opponent.  But surely, some things aren't worth winning that much?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: straightred on September 02, 2018, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: Smokin Joe on September 02, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
A week ago I heard that Ryan McAnespie was on the receiving end of verbal abuse during the semi-final.

It would appear that some of the Tyrone players think anything is fair game to try and get inside the head of an opponent.  But surely, some things aren't worth winning that much?

Sledging is a fact of life - it happens in all sports. If i'm honest i did a bit of it myself.

The difference here is where's the line between what's acceptable and what's bang out of order
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Mourne Red on September 02, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Can't say I'm surprised to hear.. Sure these players were part of the u21 team that played Tipperary and wrote the names and numbers of Tip players girlfriends on there arms.. No class
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
Nothing new with Tyrone. Sledging is part of the game but references to people's personal lives and things like the death of a father or another loved one or sectarian abuse are over the line of acceptable sledging. Mickey Harte may not condone it but he certainly never condemns it. For someone who has been through so much personally I would question his a la Carte Christian views on what is acceptable and what isn't.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
Nothing new with Tyrone. Sledging is part of the game but references to people's personal lives and things like the death of a father or another loved one or sectarian abuse are over the line of acceptable sledging. Mickey Harte may not condone it but he certainly never condemns it. For someone who has been through so much personally I would question his a la Carte Christian views on what is acceptable and what isn't.

Bit like the al la carte views on what consitutes rape in in the Ulster trial threads..
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 09:51:42 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 08:29:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 08:11:37 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 06:49:03 PM
I absolutely hope they do
I think you're stretching it to suggest from that statement a lot of the things you have insinuated, but carry on.
If you absolutely hope they release a statement saying they received verbal abuse against Tyrone, it is not a stretch at all to say that you absolutely hope that the verbal abuse did happen and that the culprits get called out for it. Indeed, it is perfectly logical.
Unless you have some issue with the Wylies, it would be logical to suggest that the only reason you absolutely hope this is because it will shine a negative light on a Tyrone team that we know you dislike, going by your previous posts.
All perfectly logical for me.

And you, of course.
I did hear a rumour about sectarian comments made to the Wylies during the match and was aware of Drew's refusal to shake hands so I'm glad that if it is the case they're going to make it public. Nothing wrong with that is there
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:00:26 PM
I never said that. I said that I'm glad that if it is the case then they're going to make it public. You really need to stop allowing your Tyrone bias to try and distort what I'm saying
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 10:03:49 PM
The RTE pundits (imo pointedly) kept reiterating how the Dubs should be applauded for their conduct on and off the pitch and what great role models they are. Not something you ever hear about Tyrone. Brolly is bound to know the inside line on these stories.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:05:46 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 10:02:29 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:00:26 PM
I never said that. I said that I'm glad that if it is the case then they're going to make it public. You really need to stop allowing your Tyrone bias to try and distort what I'm saying
Your original comment never mentioned "if it is the case". That's where the problem arises.
Ok. So are you happier now
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:10:16 PM
Good stuff
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Fear ón Srath Bán on September 02, 2018, 10:10:36 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 10:03:49 PM
The RTE pundits (imo pointedly) kept reiterating how the Dubs should be applauded for their conduct on and off the pitch and what great role models they are. Not something you ever hear about Tyrone. Brolly is bound to know the inside line on these stories.

FFS! That you would take Brolly as a neutral arbiter in anything tells me all I need to know regarding your quest for justice.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: imtommygunn on September 02, 2018, 10:16:18 PM
But james mccarthy text messaged him...

(In another name dropping story that no one gave a crap about but brolly wanted to blow his own trumpet because he had "mates" on the dublin team)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: bennydorano on September 02, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
Nothing new with Tyrone. Sledging is part of the game but references to people's personal lives and things like the death of a father or another loved one or sectarian abuse are over the line of acceptable sledging. Mickey Harte may not condone it but he certainly never condemns it. For someone who has been through so much personally I would question his a la Carte Christian views on what is acceptable and what isn't.

Bit like the al la carte views on what consitutes rape in in the Ulster trial threads..

https://www.facebook.com/28373121592/posts/10155825141921593/
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 02, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
Nothing new with Tyrone. Sledging is part of the game but references to people's personal lives and things like the death of a father or another loved one or sectarian abuse are over the line of acceptable sledging. Mickey Harte may not condone it but he certainly never condemns it. For someone who has been through so much personally I would question his a la Carte Christian views on what is acceptable and what isn't.

Bit like the al la carte views on what consitutes rape in in the Ulster trial threads..

https://www.facebook.com/28373121592/posts/10155825141921593/
And stay down!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Over the Bar on September 02, 2018, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:10:16 PM
Good stuff

The c**k that hangs from your forehead is in danger of entering your mouth it seems....?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: Tony Baloney on September 02, 2018, 10:55:13 PM
Quote from: bennydorano on September 02, 2018, 10:38:17 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 02, 2018, 09:50:35 PM
Quote from: brokencrossbar1 on September 02, 2018, 09:46:50 PM
Nothing new with Tyrone. Sledging is part of the game but references to people's personal lives and things like the death of a father or another loved one or sectarian abuse are over the line of acceptable sledging. Mickey Harte may not condone it but he certainly never condemns it. For someone who has been through so much personally I would question his a la Carte Christian views on what is acceptable and what isn't.

Bit like the al la carte views on what consitutes rape in in the Ulster trial threads..

https://www.facebook.com/28373121592/posts/10155825141921593/
And stay down!

Good stuff Benny!!!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 11:18:14 PM
Quote from: Over the Bar on September 02, 2018, 11:10:47 PM
Quote from: Dougal Maguire on September 02, 2018, 10:10:16 PM
Good stuff

The c**k that hangs from your forehead is in danger of entering your mouth it seems....?
Classy stuff from a man who has been making an arse of his mouth for ages
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Hound on September 04, 2018, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 02, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Can't say I'm surprised to hear.. Sure these players were part of the u21 team that played Tipperary and wrote the names and numbers of Tip players girlfriends on there arms.. No class
This was supposed to be Conor Gormley on Alan Brogan.

Getting more Urban Mythy.
Do people even know other people's mobile phone numbers?
I know Tipp were very upset with some opposition antics after it, but don't know what it was.

Only this week Brogan was on some preview show and said that Gormley never sledged him, nor Ricey. But that it was Gormley who was mostly marking him, and of course he got plenty of physical stuff but nothing out of bounds. He said Ricey probably did sledge some Dubs, but that the only bad sledging he got from Tyrone was from the physio/doctor in the Battle of Omagh!
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Mourne Red on September 04, 2018, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 04, 2018, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 02, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Can't say I'm surprised to hear.. Sure these players were part of the u21 team that played Tipperary and wrote the names and numbers of Tip players girlfriends on there arms.. No class
This was supposed to be Conor Gormley on Alan Brogan.

Getting more Urban Mythy.
Do people even know other people's mobile phone numbers?
I know Tipp were very upset with some opposition antics after it, but don't know what it was.

Only this week Brogan was on some preview show and said that Gormley never sledged him, nor Ricey. But that it was Gormley who was mostly marking him, and of course he got plenty of physical stuff but nothing out of bounds. He said Ricey probably did sledge some Dubs, but that the only bad sledging he got from Tyrone was from the physio/doctor in the Battle of Omagh!

Nope was Tyrone u21s was the talk of our uni Gaelic team at the time as we had a few players who were friendly with Tipp ones and this is what they were at.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: reddgnhand on September 04, 2018, 10:31:27 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 04, 2018, 02:13:31 PM
Quote from: Hound on September 04, 2018, 01:58:44 PM
Quote from: hardstation on September 02, 2018, 09:51:12 PM
Quote from: Mourne Red on September 02, 2018, 09:42:39 PM
Can't say I'm surprised to hear.. Sure these players were part of the u21 team that played Tipperary and wrote the names and numbers of Tip players girlfriends on there arms.. No class
This was supposed to be Conor Gormley on Alan Brogan.

Getting more Urban Mythy.
Do people even know other people's mobile phone numbers?
I know Tipp were very upset with some opposition antics after it, but don't know what it was.

Only this week Brogan was on some preview show and said that Gormley never sledged him, nor Ricey. But that it was Gormley who was mostly marking him, and of course he got plenty of physical stuff but nothing out of bounds. He said Ricey probably did sledge some Dubs, but that the only bad sledging he got from Tyrone was from the physio/doctor in the Battle of Omagh!

Nope was Tyrone u21s was the talk of our uni Gaelic team at the time as we had a few players who were friendly with Tipp ones and this is what they were at.

Heard it from someone who heard it from someone. Yeah yeah.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Highlighted for your convenience. Thought a wee legal eagle like yourself would discern the difference, but as usual you've gone full bore and extrapolated rumor to establishment of a track record. Sorry your grudge match never materialized.

Fair Play to you, for never ceasing to amaze. Hang em, and Hang em high.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Highlighted for your convenience. Thought a wee legal eagle like yourself would discern the difference, but as usual you've gone full bore and extrapolated rumor to establishment of a track record. Sorry your grudge match never materialized.

Fair Play to you, for never ceasing to amaze. Hang em, and Hang em high.

Usually when the same bush produces smoke over and over again it's not because the world is out to get it.

Try as you might this is a hard accusation to wriggle out of. It seems trying to do so is the excuse for people in Tyrone GAA to not come out against it and put a stop to it, though.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on September 04, 2018, 11:14:19 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Highlighted for your convenience. Thought a wee legal eagle like yourself would discern the difference, but as usual you've gone full bore and extrapolated rumor to establishment of a track record. Sorry your grudge match never materialized.

Fair Play to you, for never ceasing to amaze. Hang em, and Hang em high.

Usually when the same bush produces smoke over and over again it's not because the world is out to get it.

Try as you might this is a hard accusation to wriggle out of. It seems trying to do so is the excuse for people in Tyrone GAA to not come out against it and put a stop to it, though.

Seriously, are you arguing that a bunch of 20 years olds researched who another bunch of 20 year old's (from the other end of the country) girlfriends were? Then went and found the phone numbers of said girlfriends? Then wrote these phone numbers on their arms then went around the players and showed them their phone numbers? Saying ahhh I have your girlfriends number and although I live over 100 miles away I'm shagging her?  Jesus wept. Do people really think his happened? And did the Tipp players really give a shite on the off chance it did? Feck me we have some counties spooked big time with our myths.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: reddgnhand on September 04, 2018, 11:16:02 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Highlighted for your convenience. Thought a wee legal eagle like yourself would discern the difference, but as usual you've gone full bore and extrapolated rumor to establishment of a track record. Sorry your grudge match never materialized.

Fair Play to you, for never ceasing to amaze. Hang em, and Hang em high.

Usually when the same bush produces smoke over and over again it's not because the world is out to get it.

Try as you might this is a hard accusation to wriggle out of. It seems trying to do so is the excuse for people in Tyrone GAA to not come out against it and put a stop to it, though.

What facts have you got?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on September 04, 2018, 11:19:21 PM
Syferus Facts


The irony of both in the same sentence !!!!!


Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Therealdonald on September 04, 2018, 11:21:52 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Syferus, you'd do well to remember that the minors were completely exonerated of that allegation.

Surely Roscommon have to have a team holiday coming up or has there not been a team holiday since the boys were chalking each others cue's around 2001?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:24:15 AM
We have no money for a team holiday......
.... Or a defence coach or a S&C coach.....
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on September 05, 2018, 06:44:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:24:15 AM
We have no money for a team holiday......
.... Or a defence coach or a S&C coach.....

But you gotta bus
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: trueblue1234 on September 05, 2018, 03:28:25 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 11:06:37 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 10:52:50 PM
Quote from: Syferus on September 04, 2018, 10:31:06 PM
Quote from: Puckoon on September 04, 2018, 09:37:44 PM
This rumor, above - started before Tyrone even played Tipperary. It was alleged to have happened during the Dublin games of 08, or shortly thereafter.

None of which discounts it happening in the Tipp game too given that coupled with their minors' behaviour around the same time against Donegal establish a track record. If you want to be above reproach don't roll around in the dirt and then get annoyed when people lean towards thinking you're dirty.

Highlighted for your convenience. Thought a wee legal eagle like yourself would discern the difference, but as usual you've gone full bore and extrapolated rumor to establishment of a track record. Sorry your grudge match never materialized.

Fair Play to you, for never ceasing to amaze. Hang em, and Hang em high.

Usually when the same bush produces smoke over and over again it's not because the world is out to get it.

Try as you might this is a hard accusation to wriggle out of. It seems trying to do so is the excuse for people in Tyrone GAA to not come out against it and put a stop to it, though.

Considering it was only your half assed attempts at trying to make this seem true, it wasn't really that hard to wriggle out of. If you had come up with one iota of proof then it may have been more difficult. But it just seems to be your opinion that you're so reliant on. And lets be honest, we know how much that's valued on the board.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Orchard park on September 05, 2018, 03:31:47 PM
Quote from: omaghjoe on September 05, 2018, 06:44:45 AM
Quote from: Rossfan on September 05, 2018, 01:24:15 AM
We have no money for a team holiday......
.... Or a defence coach or a S&C coach.....

But you gotta bus

We have and a lot of different passengers on it next year, both up front and down the back
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SuperHo on September 07, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
Getting back to the point of the thread. TG4 is run by teilifís na gaeilge which is owned by RTE. Why speak to TG4 but not the sunday game?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: Dinny Breen on September 07, 2018, 03:14:04 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on September 07, 2018, 03:11:34 PM
Getting back to the point of the thread. TG4 is run by teilifís na gaeilge which is owned by RTE. Why speak to TG4 but not the sunday game?

They don't. They are independent are they not?
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SuperHo on September 07, 2018, 03:16:49 PM
Nope. As above. RTE own the corporation that runs TG4.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: omaghjoe on September 07, 2018, 03:24:52 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on September 07, 2018, 03:16:49 PM
Nope. As above. RTE own the corporation that runs TG4.

Owned.. do they answer to RTE at an editorial level?
Title: Neamhspleách
Post by: drici on September 07, 2018, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 07, 2018, 03:14:04 PM

They don't. They are independent are they not?


https://www.independent.ie/business/cutting-tg4s-apron-strings-is-great-for-well-pragmatism-26272839.html

Laura Noonan 
March 29 2007 12:11 AM

But last year as TG4 celebrated its tenth birthday, Dempsey finally announced that the time for apron strings cutting had arrived, with TG4 to be freed from its RTE shackles from April 1, 2007.
Title: Re: Neamhspleách
Post by: omaghjoe on September 07, 2018, 07:06:38 PM
Quote from: drici on September 07, 2018, 03:25:22 PM
Quote from: Dinny Breen on September 07, 2018, 03:14:04 PM

They don't. They are independent are they not?


https://www.independent.ie/business/cutting-tg4s-apron-strings-is-great-for-well-pragmatism-26272839.html

Laura Noonan 
March 29 2007 12:11 AM

But last year as TG4 celebrated its tenth birthday, Dempsey finally announced that the time for apron strings cutting had arrived, with TG4 to be freed from its RTE shackles from April 1, 2007.

Hooray Dirici!
Im glad you've found something else to interest you at last
;) ;)
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SuperHo on September 08, 2018, 08:28:49 PM
Owned.. do they answer to RTE at an editorial level?

That's the question. RTE comission independent companies to make programmes. It has many different parts.  I don't have a clue about the asshole's radio show but it seems perverse to use a sweeping term RTE.  Noone can fault Mickey for not speaking to that particular asshole but why not speak to the Sunday Game unless he has a specific problem with them.  Obviously, he's quite entitled to do what he wants. Just curious.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: BennyHarp on September 08, 2018, 09:44:04 PM
Quote from: SuperHo on September 08, 2018, 08:28:49 PM
Owned.. do they answer to RTE at an editorial level?

That's the question. RTE comission independent companies to make programmes. It has many different parts.  I don't have a clue about the asshole's radio show but it seems perverse to use a sweeping term RTE.  Noone can fault Mickey for not speaking to that particular asshole but why not speak to the Sunday Game unless he has a specific problem with them.  Obviously, he's quite entitled to do what he wants. Just curious.

Ah ffs move on with your life.
Title: Re: Should Tyrone speak to RTE
Post by: SuperHo on September 09, 2018, 12:59:53 AM
Says the boy constantly posting on an internet board.