The IRISH RUGBY thread

[Estimator]

15. Hugo Keenan (Leinster/UCD) 8 caps
14. Jordan Larmour (Leinster/St Mary's College) 26 caps
13. Garry Ringrose (Leinster/UCD) 32 caps
12. Robbie Henshaw (Leinster/Buccaneers) 49 caps
11. James Lowe (Leinster) 4 caps
10. Jonathan Sexton (Leinster/St Mary's College) 96 caps CAPTAIN
9. Jamison Gibson Park (Leinster) 7 caps
1. Dave Kilcoyne (Munster/UL Bohemians) 40 caps
2. Ronan Kelleher (Leinster/Lansdowne) 8 caps
3. Tadhg Furlong (Leinster/Clontarf) 46 caps
4. Iain Henderson (Ulster/Academy) 60 caps
5. James Ryan (Leinster/UCD) 33 caps
6. Tadhg Beirne (Munster/Lansdowne) 19 caps
7. Will Connors (Leinster/UCD) 7 caps
8. CJ Stander (Munster/Shannon) 48 caps

Replacements

16. Rob Herring (Ulster/Ballynahinch) 18 caps
17. Cian Healy (Leinster/Clontarf) 106 caps
18. Andrew Porter (Leinster/UCD) 34 caps
19. Ryan Baird (Leinster/Dublin University) uncapped
20. Jack Conan (Leinster/Old Belvedere) 17 caps
21. Craig Casey (Munster/Shannon) uncapped
22. Billy Burns (Ulster) 5 caps
23. Keith Earls (Munster/Young Munster) 90 caps

[seafoid]

They must beat Italy

[johnnycool]

They must beat Italy

With that team, yes. If they'd went with an experimental half back pairing in prep for the WC then you could have lived with a loss.

Beirne is some man for stealing ball. He'll need to do the same in Rome.

Earls had to go, he's offering nothing at the minute.

[GetOverTheBar]

They must beat Italy

With that team, yes. If they'd went with an experimental half back pairing in prep for the WC then you could have lived with a loss.

Beirne is some man for stealing ball. He'll need to do the same in Rome.

Earls had to go, he's offering nothing at the minute.

About 5 years

[thewobbler]

They must beat Italy

With that team, yes. If they'd went with an experimental half back pairing in prep for the WC then you could have lived with a loss.

Beirne is some man for stealing ball. He'll need to do the same in Rome.

Earls had to go, he's offering nothing at the minute.

About 5 years

About 10 years.

[whitegoodman]

And yet he is still on the bench.

If ever the likes of Shane Daly was going to get game time it would 20 mins away to Italy.  Why not start Casey with the reassurance of having Sexton beside him and if things are going right then bring Park on.  Cooney must have looked at Farrell the wrong way as he is easily the best scrum half in Ireland at the minute.

What did Ruddock do wrong the last day that warranted being dropped completely from the squad ?  On the other hand how many tries does Lowe have to cause for him to get dropped from the squad ?

[bannside]

Cooneys omission the standout for me. Class act who is consistently overlooked.

[Gmac]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

[thewobbler]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

[JoG2]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/26/ireland-australia-autumn-internationals-match-report

[Estimator]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

1/4 of his international tries were against Italy.
11 games v England - 1 try
11 games v France - 1 try
6 games v Australia - 1 try

0 tries v Argentina (4games), New Zealand (6games), South Africa (5games)

[thewobbler]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2016/nov/26/ireland-australia-autumn-internationals-match-report

Believe it or not, you're adding substance to my point.

[seafoid]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

1/4 of his international tries were against Italy.
11 games v England - 1 try
11 games v France - 1 try
6 games v Australia - 1 try

0 tries v Argentina (4games), New Zealand (6games), South Africa (5games)

Wikipedia

Ireland's record try scorer is O'Driscoll, who has 46 tries in his 133 appearances.[5] Keith Earls (32), Tommy Bowe (30), Denis Hickie (29) and Shane Horgan (21) complete the top 5 Irish try scorers.


Who scores the rest of the tries , apartt from.Stockdale ?

[johnnycool]

Earls has Ireland's second most try's scored , when you think about Irish rugby it's not about flair wingers it's running after box kicks all day .

And as mentioned before, this is a statistical anomaly. He has an outstanding scoring record against tier 3 nations, a mediocre scoring record against tier 2 nations, and he has never counted against tier 1 nations. His tryscoring feats are owed more to being somehow continually picked for over a decade in top class Irish teams when they faced cannon fodder.

1/4 of his international tries were against Italy.
11 games v England - 1 try
11 games v France - 1 try
6 games v Australia - 1 try

0 tries v Argentina (4games), New Zealand (6games), South Africa (5games)

Wikipedia

Ireland's record try scorer is O'Driscoll, who has 46 tries in his 133 appearances.[5] Keith Earls (32), Tommy Bowe (30), Denis Hickie (29) and Shane Horgan (21) complete the top 5 Irish try scorers.


Who scores the rest of the tries , apartt from.Stockdale ?

Gordon Hamilton scored loads of trys. I've seen them on TV lots of the time.   

[Estimator]

Aside from those mentioned Dempsey, Murphy, Mullin and Trimble make up the rest of the top 10. Scoring averages are v poor though. Only two players above 0.4 - Hickie (0.47) & Stockdale (0.57).

In comparison with England, their Top 7 are all above 0.5 with the exception of Guscott .46. Only one of their top '11' is below 0.4.

But when you look at the length of their respective international careers.
Irelands top try scorers: 8 have had 10+ years at international rugby.
England top try scorers: only 2 had 10+ years.