The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Tailteann cup no casual will know what that means it be more sensible to call it the all Ireland division 3/4 knockout trophy or something.
Is there any real meaning to your posts?
It's a fair challenge. There are several named Cups in my divisional board and I can never remember which is which. An outsider would have no hope. Same problem at national level and it's actually worse because some of the previous attempts have burned.
Personally I believe the overall answer is staring us in the face - there should be an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship. That's a well established model across the country with teams playing at the level they can compete and the incentive to climb a grade. For some reason I'd be happy for my county to be competing for an All Ireland Junior title but would hate to be in a B competition named after someone I've never heard of.
Quote from: Sportacus on July 16, 2021, 12:40:49 PM
It's a fair challenge. There are several named Cups in my divisional board and I can never remember which is which. An outsider would have no hope. Same problem at national level and it's actually worse because some of the previous attempts have burned.
Personally I believe the overall answer is staring us in the face - there should be an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship. That's a well established model across the country with teams playing at the level they can compete and the incentive to climb a grade. For some reason I'd be happy for my county to be competing for an All Ireland Junior title but would hate to be in a B competition named after someone I've never heard of.
But that's what they are? Senior is Sam or McCarthy... just take the name away and anyone that's interested still knows what these games are for. The cups are named and that's that.
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Quote from: Sportacus on July 16, 2021, 12:40:49 PM
It's a fair challenge. There are several named Cups in my divisional board and I can never remember which is which. An outsider would have no hope. Same problem at national level and it's actually worse because some of the previous attempts have burned.
Personally I believe the overall answer is staring us in the face - there should be an All Ireland Senior, Intermediate and Junior Championship. That's a well established model across the country with teams playing at the level they can compete and the incentive to climb a grade. For some reason I'd be happy for my county to be competing for an All Ireland Junior title but would hate to be in a B competition named after someone I've never heard of.
Isn't there already an AI Junior Football Championship though based on players who aren't good enough for their senior intercounty teams?
Could get complicated! :P
Intermediate is not a word. The correct word is inthermeejit.
Usually don't pass much heed on this lad's posts but he has a point.
Why not call them All Ireland Championships-
Senior A instead of JMcD
Senior B instead of CR
Inter A instead of NR
Inter B instead of LM.
We don't call the Connacht SFC "The Nestor Cup" and so on.
Once the men in suits get their way the main competition will likely have to be called the Sam Maguire cup. Can't call it the All Ireland when all of Ireland isn't taking part.
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2021, 03:15:54 PM
Once the men in suits get their way the main competition will likely have to be called the Sam Maguire cup. Can't call it the All Ireland when all of Ireland isn't taking part.
That's like saying it shouldn't have been called that when New York & London were competiting.
I think the heat is affecting some people.
The All Ireland SHC never had all of Ireland taking part.
Quote from: AnGaelGearmanach on July 16, 2021, 03:17:18 PM
Quote from: Captain Obvious on July 16, 2021, 03:15:54 PM
Once the men in suits get their way the main competition will likely have to be called the Sam Maguire cup. Can't call it the All Ireland when all of Ireland isn't taking part.
That's like saying it shouldn't have been called that when New York & London were competiting.
Mere guests in the All Ireland series and those teams use to be filled with Irish people living there.
Quote from: Rossfan on July 16, 2021, 03:27:46 PM
I think the heat is affecting some people.
The All Ireland SHC never had all of Ireland taking part.
At one point it did. Just that a lot of counties never bothered to enter it as that would mean trying to put a bit of effort into developing the game in their respective counties.
As one Co Board man once put it
"An awful lot o' money bein wasted on that feckin hurlin"
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 03:44:45 PM
Quote from: Rossfan on July 16, 2021, 03:27:46 PM
I think the heat is affecting some people.
The All Ireland SHC never had all of Ireland taking part.
At one point it did. Just that a lot of counties never bothered to enter it as that would mean trying to put a bit of effort into developing the game in their respective counties.
Can you explain further Johnny Cool.
Are there not already junior, intermediate and senior all ireland competitions? And as for not knowing who Nicky Rackard is, what did Jules Remis do?
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 16, 2021, 04:24:14 PM
Are there not already junior, intermediate and senior all ireland competitions? And as for not knowing who Nicky Rackard is, what did Jules Remis do?
If my memory serves he was long serving fifa president?
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Should change the name of the o'duffy stand in Clones never mind...
Quote from: general_lee on July 16, 2021, 06:53:18 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Should change the name of the o'duffy stand in Clones never mind...
Just call it the junior b stand
Quote from: Denn Forever on July 16, 2021, 04:24:14 PM
Are there not already junior, intermediate and senior all ireland competitions? And as for not knowing who Nicky Rackard is, what did Jules Remis do?
I have no idea but he's still gleamin' ;)
You could name stands after cardinal compass directions, but the names have a nicer ring to them, and it does help to keep the memory of people alive. If there were a part of Croke Park called the "West Stand," how often would people talk about Michael Hogan or the circumstances in which he was murdered?
Every county has senior, intermediate, junior. But that is not the point.
But at the moment in the all Ireland everyone is senior. Creating a low babies/ high babies model would mean that 16 counties are expelled from senior paradise to become low babies
That is the problem
.
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 18, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
You forgot about Lory ya philistine ye..
I see where you're coming from as per the floating punter but any of the counties competing in them know only too well the steps of progression..
but for the ignorant on here I'll put them in terms of English Soccer.
Premiership - Liam McCarthy
Sky Championship - Joe McDonagh
Sky Div1 - Christy Ring
Sky Div2 - Nicky Rackard
National League - Lory Meagher
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 18, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
You forgot about Lory ya philistine ye..
I see where you're coming from as per the floating punter but any of the counties competing in them know only too well the steps of progression..
but for the ignorant on here I'll put them in terms of English Soccer.
Premiership - Liam McCarthy
Sky Championship - Joe McDonagh
Sky Div1 - Christy Ring
Sky Div2 - Nicky Rackard
National League - Lory Meagher
It's alright knowing the levels, but Donegal won the Rackard last year, their reward - Rackard again. Hardly much progress up the ranks.
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 18, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
You forgot about Lory ya philistine ye..
I see where you're coming from as per the floating punter but any of the counties competing in them know only too well the steps of progression..
but for the ignorant on here I'll put them in terms of English Soccer.
Premiership - Liam McCarthy
Sky Championship - Joe McDonagh
Sky Div1 - Christy Ring
Sky Div2 - Nicky Rackard
National League - Lory Meagher
Fair play to you johnny cool on using google to double check that before you posted it :o
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 18, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
You forgot about Lory ya philistine ye..
I see where you're coming from as per the floating punter but any of the counties competing in them know only too well the steps of progression..
but for the ignorant on here I'll put them in terms of English Soccer.
Premiership - Liam McCarthy
Sky Championship - Joe McDonagh
Sky Div1 - Christy Ring
Sky Div2 - Nicky Rackard
National League - Lory Meagher
There you go.
I guarantee the overwhelming majority of GAA fans in Donegsl or Louth have no idea who he was or that the 5th tier cup is named after him.
The naming convention needs to be added too, not replaced. The Liam McCarthy All Ireland down to the Lory Meagher thanks for showing up so you can get a grant cup.
Quote from: AnGaelGearmanach on July 19, 2021, 10:02:18 AM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 19, 2021, 09:50:01 AM
Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on July 18, 2021, 08:21:12 PM
Quote from: johnnycool on July 16, 2021, 02:10:57 PM
Quote from: Eire90 on July 16, 2021, 12:16:35 PM
The cups like christy ring lory meghar Nicky Rackard if a casual sees that they dont have a clue what they mean or what level they are at can they not change it to something like all Ireland B Championship or intermediate or even all ireland plate all ireland vase etc why are the gaa obsessed with names.
Image trying to commemorate sporting greats for posterity by naming a competition after them... Madness I know.
Maybe someone in years to come will ask who was Christy Ring or Nicky Rackard and be told exactly who they were.
Would you prefer the LVD vans AI intermediate hurling final?
Buy at least you know immediately what the LDV trophy is. Why not rename the CR cup a the CR third tier cup or similar.
99% of GAA folk couldn't put Liam, Joe, Christy and Nicky in the correct order, so how are the floating punter meant to?
You forgot about Lory ya philistine ye..
I see where you're coming from as per the floating punter but any of the counties competing in them know only too well the steps of progression..
but for the ignorant on here I'll put them in terms of English Soccer.
Premiership - Liam McCarthy
Sky Championship - Joe McDonagh
Sky Div1 - Christy Ring
Sky Div2 - Nicky Rackard
National League - Lory Meagher
Fair play to you johnny cool on using google to double check that before you posted it :o
Ha Ha, used google for the soccer which I wasn't sure of but no doubt all Accrington Stanley fans would have known that like I know all the hurling ones as will all Donegal or Louth hurling followers.
Not sure why Donegal on winning the Nicky Rackard weren't promoted to the Christy Ring, unless there was some sort of evening up of the numbers per group as the Joe McDonagh is only a year or two old and was squeezed in between the Liam McCarthy and the Christy Ring.