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Title: Meath East By-Election
Post by: magpie seanie on March 28, 2013, 02:00:51 PM
Looking at the tally figures for first preferences I wouldn't be convinced that FG have this wrapped up. They should be happy that their own vote held up. FF will be delighted. SF improved but not as much as I would say they hoped. Labour decimated. 62% didn't vote.

McEntee (FG) 9,457
Byrne (FF) 8,230
O Rourke (SF) 3,180
Gilroy (DDI) 1,613
Holmes (Lab) 959
O Buachalla 382
Keddy 252
McDonagh 250
Others 298


Seems the DDI transfers are breaking evenly and even though Byrne is getting a high proportion of SF transfers it won't be enough - according to David McCullagh of RTE on twitter.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 28, 2013, 02:15:31 PM
Knives being sharpened out in Labour HQ.

Never heard of Direct Democracy - is this a Meath phenomenem? Perhaps to the right of FG?
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: magpie seanie on March 28, 2013, 02:42:01 PM
Quote from: Shamrock Shore on March 28, 2013, 02:15:31 PM
Knives being sharpened out in Labour HQ.

Never heard of Direct Democracy - is this a Meath phenomenem? Perhaps to the right of FG?

Christian solidarity I believe.

Going to be close I think.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Declan on March 28, 2013, 03:04:43 PM
Nah Seanie - Mcentee will get in - Unreal turnout. When I went in last night to vote there were only two other names crossed off the list. In eight boxes just over a 1000 votes.

I found it very hard to pick a candidate to vote for  I'll be honest with you -

Here's the real result

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261297_10152690220525790_1205206084_n.jpg)

Given the low turn out I'm not surprised at FF vote tbh. An Estate agent who was immersed in FF culture got the base excited again
.Austerity is working obviously because FG's vote is only down a couple of points from the GE and Labour have got trounced due to the apathy and the floating voter not bothering as there is no alternative.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Rossfan on March 28, 2013, 03:07:58 PM
Could be a good time to get an Apathy Party up and running ....




if anyone could be bothered of course
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Declan on March 28, 2013, 03:12:27 PM
Here's the DDI website - Haven't looked through all of it but hard to see it being described as classic right wing

http://directdemocracyireland.ie/ (http://directdemocracyireland.ie/)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: magpie seanie on March 28, 2013, 05:32:21 PM
1441 in it with all the others going to be eliminated. There's approx 6400 votes to be split out including approx 1200 Labour and 3300 SF. Byrne will close the gap but it would be a remarkable transfer if he could bridge it. There will be a fair % of non-transferable votes you'd imagine. McEntee by 3-400 I'd imagine.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: magpie seanie on March 28, 2013, 06:47:04 PM
Got those transfers way wrong!
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Seems to me the media has missed the main story here. 62% of the people in East Meath couldnt be bothered to vote, most likely as they know it will make no difference at all. Only the hardcore sheep vote came out. Apart from that the side story is that Labour got a taste of what is to come and the FF support is still alive and well despite them having destroyed this country.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Seems to me the media has missed the main story here. 62% of the people in East Meath couldnt be bothered to vote, most likely as they know it will make no difference at all. Only the hardcore sheep vote came out. Apart from that the side story is that Labour got a taste of what is to come and the retard FF support is still alive and well despite them having destroyed this country.

Maybe the low turnout shows that the electorate is content with how things are going, as McGuinness said after a 37% turnout in West Belfast a couple of years ago.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Seems to me the media has missed the main story here. 62% of the people in East Meath couldnt be bothered to vote, most likely as they know it will make no difference at all. Only the hardcore sheep vote came out. Apart from that the side story is that Labour got a taste of what is to come and the retard FF support is still alive and well despite them having destroyed this country.

Maybe the low turnout shows that the electorate is content with how things are going, as McGuinness said after a 37% turnout in West Belfast a couple of years ago.
Is that what you think?
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Minder on March 28, 2013, 10:12:47 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:52:37 PM
Quote from: Minder on March 28, 2013, 09:20:57 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 28, 2013, 09:00:41 PM
Seems to me the media has missed the main story here. 62% of the people in East Meath couldnt be bothered to vote, most likely as they know it will make no difference at all. Only the hardcore sheep vote came out. Apart from that the side story is that Labour got a taste of what is to come and the retard FF support is still alive and well despite them having destroyed this country.

Maybe the low turnout shows that the electorate is content with how things are going, as McGuinness said after a 37% turnout in West Belfast a couple of years ago.
Is that what you think?

No I wasn't being serious, I don't think it's what McGuinness thought either. Low turnout is easily explained, people don't give a f**k about politics & don't trust politicians.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Maguire01 on March 28, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
So which parties do best in getting their vote out on a low turnout? What would this result have looked like on a 60% turnout?
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Dougal Maguire on March 29, 2013, 07:34:47 AM
Is it possible that many of those who didn't vote could be ex FF voters who defected to FG last time but couldn't find it their hearts to vote for them again but at the same time aren't ready yet to go back to voting FF?
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 28, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
So which parties do best in getting their vote out on a low turnout? What would this result have looked like on a 60% turnout?

The hardcore party support turn out when there is a low turnout generally. The floaters, those with no allegiance etc didn't bother. Can't say I blame them. 38% turnout should send alarm bells ringing but instead all RTE focus on is that apparently we all agree with austerity.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Maguire01 on March 29, 2013, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 28, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
So which parties do best in getting their vote out on a low turnout? What would this result have looked like on a 60% turnout?

The hardcore party support turn out when there is a low turnout generally. The floaters, those with no allegiance etc didn't bother. Can't say I blame them. 38% turnout should send alarm bells ringing but instead all RTE focus on is that apparently we all agree with austerity.
Yes, I understand your point about the hardcore supporters - just wondering if turnout was 60 or 70%, would the percentages for each candidate/party be similar? What party/candidate did better due to the low turnout?

Regarding your comment on RTÉ, I would have expected the anti-austerity / anti-government vote to be significantly bigger than it was. And the FF vote doesn't really count, as they wouldn't really be doing anything different than the current government.

If RTÉ are wrong in saying that people agree with austerity, then the conclusion must be that the voters don't agree, but don't see a feasible alternative.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2013, 05:45:57 PM
The problem is there is no alternative, everyone knows we are signed into agreements and no one in opposition is going to change that. Fg and labour said they would but they just implemented ff policy. Vote for who you like, the rulers of this country won't be standing for election here
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: armaghniac on March 29, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
Labour lied in the election campaign, promising things they couldn't reasonably deliver on in the times that are in it. They may have felt it necessary to do this because of the truly blatant false promises from SF and diverse lefties. But people will remember, hopefully lying is becoming less acceptable in politicians.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2013, 06:11:16 PM
Did FG not lie and lie and lie before the last election and still they are voted in.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Maguire01 on March 29, 2013, 06:22:51 PM
Quote from: Itchy on March 29, 2013, 06:11:16 PM
Did FG not lie and lie and lie before the last election and still they are voted in.
And probably will be next time as well.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Rossfan on March 29, 2013, 06:43:31 PM
Quote from: armaghniac on March 29, 2013, 06:00:30 PM
hopefully lying is becoming less acceptable in politicians.

That will be the day .....
Pity we have to die and go to Heaven to see it. ;D
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: lawnseed on March 29, 2013, 08:11:05 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 29, 2013, 04:38:20 PM
Quote from: mylestheslasher on March 29, 2013, 03:58:50 PM
Quote from: Maguire01 on March 28, 2013, 10:45:03 PM
So which parties do best in getting their vote out on a low turnout? What would this result have looked like on a 60% turnout?

The hardcore party support turn out when there is a low turnout generally. The floaters, those with no allegiance etc didn't bother. Can't say I blame them. 38% turnout should send alarm bells ringing but instead all RTE focus on is that apparently we all agree with austerity.
Yes, I understand your point about the hardcore supporters - just wondering if turnout was 60 or 70%, would the percentages for each candidate/party be similar? What party/candidate did better due to the low turnout?

Regarding your comment on RTÉ, I would have expected the anti-austerity / anti-government vote to be significantly bigger than it was. And the FF vote doesn't really count, as they wouldn't really be doing anything different than the current government.

If RTÉ are wrong in saying that people agree with austerity, then the conclusion must be that the voters don't agree, but don't see a feasible alternative.

Completely agree with this post. Fianna fail voters had two choices in this election. Shepherd1 or 2 baaah!
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: armaghniac on March 29, 2013, 09:34:31 PM
QuoteDid FG not lie and lie and lie before the last election and still they are voted in.

Yes they did lie, but not as comprehensively as Labour. The nonsense about "Frankfurt's way or Labour's way" implied that Labour had some realistic plan to do things differently, when they hadn't.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Itchy on March 29, 2013, 09:40:13 PM
Cancer services back in sligo within 30 days
Enda standing with Roscommon hospital
Rating performance of TD's
New transparent politics

At least as bad if not worse than labour.
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 10:59:13 PM
More importantly is Helen McEntee now the finest looking beuer in the Dáil ?


(http://www.irishtimes.com/polopoly_fs/1.1342322.1364508135!/image/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/box_600/image.jpg)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:01:15 PM
The competition

(http://s3.jrnl.ie/media/2013/02/2412012-campaigns-against-austerity-measures-310x415.jpg)

Claire Daly
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:02:27 PM
Mary-Lou

(http://www.irishpressreleases.ie/content/Mary%20Lou%20McDonald%202.1229.jpg)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:04:17 PM
Marcellus Wallace

(http://entertainment.ie/images_content/rectangle/620x372/wallace.jpg)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:07:34 PM
Lucinda

(http://s2.jrnl.ie/media/2012/03/PA-10560800-310x415.jpg)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:11:11 PM
(http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-f-ih45osOqU/UJezc3aqnDI/AAAAAAAAB4Y/ogpRkz4js7o/s1600/soprano-home-movies-1024.jpg)

Carmella Soprano aka Áine Collins
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:14:15 PM
(http://www.youghalonline.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/McLellan-Advert-2-300px3.jpg)

Sandra McLellan
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 29, 2013, 11:17:28 PM
and of course Roisin Shortall









(http://netflowers.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/susan-sarandon-26.jpg)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Itchy on March 30, 2013, 08:04:52 AM
Roisin Showall
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Farrandeelin on March 30, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Ah how could you forget Michelle Mulherin??!! :P
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: Shamrock Shore on March 30, 2013, 01:48:03 PM
(http://bocktherobber.com.cdn.ie/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/michelle-mulherin.png)
Title: Re: Meath East By-Election
Post by: spuds on March 30, 2013, 10:07:20 PM
Quote from: Farrandeelin on March 30, 2013, 11:54:46 AM
Ah how could you forget Michelle Mulherin??!! :P
Am trying to, she's on The Saturday Night Show now as well.