The Sunday Game

[yellowcard]

On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.

Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul. 

[five points]

Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

I really cant agree that it technically a correct one , other wise all contact would come into the same category and with out getting all Frank murphy these are Dictionary definitions of Strike
iCant really see where o garas action are defined here .
Though it would be cool to be sanctioned for smiting

1. to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2. to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3. to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together.
4. to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5. to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6. to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.
7. (of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:

Reminds me of Kevin Keane's infamous red v Donegal which was overturned a few years ago. Keane undoubtedly touched Murphy's face with his hand but with no force whatsoever and it didn't constitute a "striking" action.

[vallankumous]

Many Red Cards are BS and alomost all double yellow cards are BS.

A double Yellow resulting in a red card is a joke.

[muppet]

On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.

Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul.

Walsh was the designated 'get him sent off by throwing a tantrum' man. We learned from the best.

He was the one doing this:

[Lar Naparka]

On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.

Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

I really cant agree that it technically a correct one , other wise all contact would come into the same category and with out getting all Frank murphy these are Dictionary definitions of Strike
iCant really see where o garas action are defined here .
Though it would be cool to be sanctioned for smiting

1. to deal a blow or stroke to (a person or thing), as with the fist, a weapon, or a hammer; hit.
2. to inflict, deliver, or deal (a blow, stroke, attack, etc.).
3. to drive so as to cause impact: to strike the hands together.
4. to thrust forcibly:
Brutus struck a dagger into the dying Caesar.
5. to produce (fire, sparks, light, etc.) by percussion, friction, etc.
6. to cause (a match) to ignite by friction.
7. (of some natural or supernatural agency) to smite or blast:

No problem with that ros but the GAA rules aren't based on logic or common sense.
Here's the one we are talkiing about.
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)

Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
Spitting at an opponent.
Contributing to a melee.
Stamping.
Inflicting injury recklessly.
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
These are unchanged.

The first would apply to O'Gara and the second to Keegan.

[five points]

No problem with that ros but the GAA rules aren't based on logic or common sense.

They are actually. Otherwise the DRA would make mincemeat of them at every appeal.

Here's the one we are talkiing about.
Immediate Ordering Off Infractions (Red Cards)

Striking or attempting to strike with arm, elbow, hand, knee or head.
Kicking or attempting to kick with minimal force or with force or causing injury.
Behaving in any way which is dangerous to an opponent.
Spitting at an opponent.
Contributing to a melee.
Stamping.
Inflicting injury recklessly.
Abusive language towards a Referee, Umpire, Linesman or Sideline Official.
These are unchanged.

The first would apply to O'Gara and the second to Keegan.

In order for a body contact to be classed as a strike, it must involve the inflicting of a blow. A pat on the head is not a strike, otherwise Darren Hughes' appeal against the stupid red card for tousling Tiernan McCann's hair wouldn't have stood.

Lee Keegan's case is a red herring here. He got off by exploiting a loophole in the rules, which has since been closed.

[Rossfan]

Many Red Cards are BS and alomost all double yellow cards are BS.

A double Yellow resulting in a red card is a joke.

Bring back faction fighting!

[Jinxy]

What was the point of doing what O'Gara did anyway?
Was he trying to fool Magee into thinking he was going to punch him full force so that he'd flinch/react?
Utterly pointless but fully deserved red and I hope it's upheld.

[pointman2]

Tyrone's behaviour over the years has been despicable -is it just a coincidence that they do much more sledging than other teams?

[Dire Ear]

Tyrone's behaviour over the years has been despicable -is it just a coincidence that they do much more sledging than other teams?

Run along child , away n catch some pokeymen.....

[Jinxy]

Just caught a Tyrone pokeyman there on the street.



He's fierce cranky.

[Rudi]

On a more serious note why should O'Gara's red be rescinded?

It was a striking action.

It was clearly an incorrect decision, I'll bet O'Gara now wishes he had actually followed through as he would have got the exact same outcome. Then you see Michael Murphy's incident where he actually made heavy contact with the side of an opponents head and you scratch your head at the inconsistency.

Unfortunately it wasn't according to the rules. It was similar to Lee Keegan's petulant stab at Johnny Buckley in the drawn semifinal in 2014. According to Cian O'Neill afterwards, he had told Kerry to hassle Keegan in order to make him lose the cool and Buckley succeeded in doing this. It was rough justice but, going by he rules, he had to go even though no physical contact had been made.
In O'Gara's case, the player was in hard luck as the contact was minimal and he had been pulled and dragged before striking out. (Pity he didn't give his man a good kick up the hole as the result would have been the same.)
Harsh decision but technically a correct one.

Donncha Walsh if memory serves me right, but I didn't think that was a red either. Walsh made the most of that.

Strictly by the rule book it could be deemed a red but common sense should prevail sometimes otherwise the game becomes completely sanitised where any little 'contact' becomes a foul.

Walsh was the designated 'get him sent off by throwing a tantrum' man. We learned from the best.

He was the one doing this:

Very good muppet, he was an awful bit-h that day.

[trileacman]

Big problem in this is that the punching and brawling once so prevalent in the game is now gone. Looking back, the mass brawls of the 90s and 00s, like Tyrone Dublin 06, are probably fondly remembered. The events were largely harmless and usually fairly entertaining.

Back then that was the " ugliness" of the game and it was forced out  by a load of sanctimonious wankers. The sledging, play acting, biting and dragging that has replaced it so so much uglier though but it's still the same sanctimonious wankers of tsg and indo bitching about it now. Sure lads it was you Fcukers that brought this about.

[Jinxy]

Well said.

[Rossfan]

Bring back faction fighting!