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They attacked a PBP meeting in Dublin last night as well.

I don't support PBP but they're entitled to have their meetings free from harassment by extremist xenophobic scumbags.

The National Party were attacked with knives in Enniskillen last year at a meeting by a bunch of Dissidents and far left Antifa types.

Wasn't much sympathy for them or police help. Guess that's okay to the usual mob on here.

It's not as far away as the griping above would make you believe.

There won't be a perfect system. There won't even be a close to perfect system. You can't stop stars aligning.

Three simple measures should be easy to implement across the board:

1. When a club wins its county's IFC or JFC, for the subsequent season, they must play at a higher championship level. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.

2. If a club's senior league position at the end of any season, ranks them in 10th place or higher, then they must compete in their county's SFC the following season. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.

3. If a club's senior league position at the end of any season, ranks them in 20th place or higher, then they cannot play in their county's JFC the following season. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.


No. 1 is a no-brainer.

Nos. 2 and 3 could run into logistics issues in smaller counties, but in those cases the ranges could be adapted accordingly.

I know I know I know that in some in counties they don't take league football seriously. But you know what? There's clubs everywhere forking out a fortune for management teams and toys all year round. The least they could do in return is try harder in league football.

Good points but some counties obviously have more clubs. The issue I have with Cavan is they actually have 3 divisions , same as Tyrone and Monaghan.

How any Cavan man can come here and argue that it's totally fine their 3 representatives this year playing div 1 football had no bearing on the championship is talking through their hoop.

Is it fair that some clubs like Kilmacud have over 5,000 members and will likely will another All Ireland?

Is it fair that some clubs can pay inter county level managers payments likely reaching 6 figures?

Is it fair that some clubs can cherrypick players from weaker clubs without sanction?

Is it fair that Glenullin the Derry champs can win the Intermediate every year and remain Intermediate for 3 years?


All of that is happening especially with some of the bigger clubs

you cant really do muchabout the first one. It is what it is
Paying and cherry picking is something which shouldnt go on but does. Do cCP turn a blind eye?
How have they been able to do that? Surely if you win your int championship you play in senior the following year? Surely that is one which can be sorted out fairly quickly

Derry did not promote Intermediate winners from last year or this year. Which is very unusual

Cill Ma Martra finished 5th in the Cork Division 1 this year

Arva stroll to a Ulster junior championship, pretends to be shocked...

In other provinces, people might be more likely to get behind the province winners, especially with how Kerry and Dublin are so dominant in club All Ireland

It's not as far away as the griping above would make you believe.

There won't be a perfect system. There won't even be a close to perfect system. You can't stop stars aligning.

Three simple measures should be easy to implement across the board:

1. When a club wins its county's IFC or JFC, for the subsequent season, they must play at a higher championship level. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.

2. If a club's senior league position at the end of any season, ranks them in 10th place or higher, then they must compete in their county's SFC the following season. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.

3. If a club's senior league position at the end of any season, ranks them in 20th place or higher, then they cannot play in their county's JFC the following season. This stipulation supersedes all localised competition rules.


No. 1 is a no-brainer.

Nos. 2 and 3 could run into logistics issues in smaller counties, but in those cases the ranges could be adapted accordingly.

I know I know I know that in some in counties they don't take league football seriously. But you know what? There's clubs everywhere forking out a fortune for management teams and toys all year round. The least they could do in return is try harder in league football.

Good points but some counties obviously have more clubs. The issue I have with Cavan is they actually have 3 divisions , same as Tyrone and Monaghan.

How any Cavan man can come here and argue that it's totally fine their 3 representatives this year playing div 1 football had no bearing on the championship is talking through their hoop.

Is it fair that some clubs like Kilmacud have over 5,000 members and will likely will another All Ireland?

Is it fair that some clubs can pay inter county level managers payments likely reaching 6 figures?

Is it fair that some clubs can cherrypick players from weaker clubs without sanction?

Is it fair that Glenullin the Derry champs can win the Intermediate every year and remain Intermediate for 3 years?


All of that is happening especially with some of the bigger clubs

I can tell you I spoke to 3 lads at lunch there, from Sligo, Galway and Mayo. Their league and championship totally seperate too. Bar the couple on northern counties I haven't come across any that are linked

Meath are the same

It was deserved that Ballyhaise won that match, ten minutes into the match a Glenullin player spat in the face of a Ballyhaise player. Unacceptable.

Refereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Very poor. Avoiding the big calls. The wide given as a point wasn't even close how did they all miss it.

Also linesman/ref should have seen that surely? Hopefully that a1 point isnt the difference or will be big controversy

Refereeing here is  really poor, what other people think?

Miles wide

100% Glenullin have a point that was miles wide, was it given

It's more embarrassing that Glenullin can win Derry intermediate 3 years in a row and still enter Intermediate and Ulster.

None of ye care about that though just the same Nordie posters with a massive chip on their shoulders about Cavan. Don't know why not like Cavan GAA has much success

Naomh Conaill absolutely stole that with last kick of the game. Gowna looked to have done just enough. 2 point lead always a dangerous one

Glenties poor or Gowna better than I thought initially?

Glenties were fairly poor but they nicked the win. Just far too negative. Gowna will be hurt bad by that but they threw it away at the end

Naomh Conaill absolutely stole that with last kick of the game. Gowna looked to have done just enough. 2 point lead always a dangerous one

They stole it but Gowna really should have defended better and had a line ball that was thrown up

Naomh Conaill were very negative with a blanket defence and very beatable, they won't go much further

The Kerry grading system is very suspect also they seem to now win Senior Intermediate and Junior in Munster every year. I suppose if it wasn't for the Hurling dominance the other counties might make more noise  they seem to have a serious advantage in All Ireland club.

Its because they have their 9th best team playing in intermediate. Imagine the 9th best team in Dublin doing that ffs.

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They also can coast through Munster club for the most part whereas Ulster club is extremely competitive from nearly all counties

Outstanding by Beggan at the end

Naomh Conaill 4 up at HT Vs Gowna. They have a strong blanket defence though and Gowna aren't playing well, be surprised if NC through his away now.