The OFFICIAL Liverpool FC thread - #DankeJürgen

[AZOffaly]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

Ah God. They absolutely are. Are they better than they were when Suarez was there, and Gerrard? That's arguable, but they are certainly better balanced.

Are they better than in the last 18 months of Rodger's reign? Absolutely. Are they playing better now? Probably not, but are we really saying that 1 poor month negates everything else that he has brought? This is nuts.

[The Stallion]

I don't have time to read your post in full, but one part which did catch my eye was:

"No one builds a championship winning team over one summer, at least outside of the world of Abramovich or the Sheiks, especially starting from where Klopp did when he took over"

It made me chuckle, so thanks for that. I know you don't like to acknowledge that last season happened given Klopp took Liverpool to mid-table obscurity, but while he was doing a crap job a proper manager won the League with a much inferior side at a fraction of the cost.

YNWA

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

You could - you'd be wrong though

[J70]

I don't have time to read your post in full, but one part which did catch my eye was:

"No one builds a championship winning team over one summer, at least outside of the world of Abramovich or the Sheiks, especially starting from where Klopp did when he took over"

It made me chuckle, so thanks for that. I know you don't like to acknowledge that last season happened given Klopp took Liverpool to mid-table obscurity, but while he was doing a crap job a proper manager won the League with a much inferior side at a fraction of the cost.

YNWA

This, again, is an example of why I think you're trolling. Maybe you should have picked a different part of my post, which would take less than a minute to read, to focus on.

Ranieri did an extraordinary job, but that was a perfect storm for Leicester, when an entire team/squad overachieved dramatically. They've sank back to their level this season and the chances of them even challenging for champions league places again are slim as things stand for them.

To expect such an isolated, unexpected, league win to be repeated elsewhere, especially in this age of vastly wealthy competitors, is either ignorant of reality or, again, just making shit up for the sake of attention. It's like saying that someone jumping off a five storey roof and, by some miracle, surviving unharmed, means that others should, realistically, be expected to do the same. Both are statistical improbabilities.

Holding Klopp or any other manager (including Ranieri himself) to that standard is just idiotic. Ranieri himself is a solid, capable, journeyman manager with no other history of top division title success, even with a season of Abramovich wealth thrown in there.

[Walter Cronc]

I don't have time to read your post in full, but one part which did catch my eye was:

"No one builds a championship winning team over one summer, at least outside of the world of Abramovich or the Sheiks, especially starting from where Klopp did when he took over"

It made me chuckle, so thanks for that. I know you don't like to acknowledge that last season happened given Klopp took Liverpool to mid-table obscurity, but while he was doing a crap job a proper manager won the League with a much inferior side at a fraction of the cost.

YNWA

This, again, is an example of why I think you're trolling. Maybe you should have picked a different part of my post, which would take less than a minute to read, to focus on.

Ranieri did an extraordinary job, but that was a perfect storm for Leicester, when an entire team/squad overachieved dramatically. They've sank back to their level this season and the chances of them even challenging for champions league places again are slim as things stand for them.

To expect such an isolated, unexpected, league win to be repeated elsewhere, especially in this age of vastly wealthy competitors, is either ignorant of reality or, again, just making shit up for the sake of attention. It's like saying that someone jumping off a five storey roof and, by some miracle, surviving unharmed, means that others should, realistically, be expected to do the same. Both are statistical improbabilities.

Holding Klopp or any other manager (including Ranieri himself) to that standard is just idiotic. Ranieri himself is a solid, capable, journeyman manager with no other history of top division title success, even with a season of Abramovich wealth thrown in there.

For one I'm a big fan of Klopp. Just few strange signings or lack of in many cases. He reminds me a bit of Wenger in many ways, not much of a clue about defending.

[magpie seanie]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

Ah God. They absolutely are. Are they better than they were when Suarez was there, and Gerrard? That's arguable, but they are certainly better balanced.

Are they better than in the last 18 months of Rodger's reign? Absolutely. Are they playing better now? Probably not, but are we really saying that 1 poor month negates everything else that he has brought? This is nuts.

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

[stew]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

Ah God. They absolutely are. Are they better than they were when Suarez was there, and Gerrard? That's arguable, but they are certainly better balanced.

Are they better than in the last 18 months of Rodger's reign? Absolutely. Are they playing better now? Probably not, but are we really saying that 1 poor month negates everything else that he has brought? This is nuts.

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

Nah, he should have been deployed in front of the back four.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

I'm not having that - apart from "that" incident, he scored 10 league goals during a 16-game unbeaten league run which got them to where they were.

He led the league in assists that year as well.

[The Stallion]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

Ah God. They absolutely are. Are they better than they were when Suarez was there, and Gerrard? That's arguable, but they are certainly better balanced.

Are they better than in the last 18 months of Rodger's reign? Absolutely. Are they playing better now? Probably not, but are we really saying that 1 poor month negates everything else that he has brought? This is nuts.

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

I agree Gerrard should have been sold to the highest bidder long before he did finally leave. He held the team back and the millions wasted on his salary would have been better put to use on a midfielder who could do a bit more than just take set pieces and hit the occasional rocket from 30 yards.

[The Stallion]

Are Liverpool a better side under Klopp than Rogers....you could argue they arent.

Ah God. They absolutely are. Are they better than they were when Suarez was there, and Gerrard? That's arguable, but they are certainly better balanced.

Are they better than in the last 18 months of Rodger's reign? Absolutely. Are they playing better now? Probably not, but are we really saying that 1 poor month negates everything else that he has brought? This is nuts.

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

Nah, he should have been deployed in front of the back four.

Gerrard was never good playing deep or just behind the striker. His best spell for the club was when played on the right of midfield

[magpie seanie]

Rodgers single biggest error was that he didn't jettison Gerrard earlier. He was living off his reputation for years and holding back that team. He cost ye that league ye should have won.

I'm not having that - apart from "that" incident, he scored 10 league goals during a 16-game unbeaten league run which got them to where they were.

He led the league in assists that year as well.

Most were penalties and he missed one or two of those. Amazing how many penalties Liverpool got in that run.

[seafoid]

Liverpool were stupid to sell Suarez

[JoG2]

Liverpool were stupid to sell Suarez

Alonso, Masch?? With the exception of Barca and R Madrid, the rest are feeder clubs to a degree!

[AZOffaly]

Liverpool were stupid to sell Suarez

Liverpool had no choice.

[J70]

Liverpool were stupid to sell Suarez

They had little choice. The bite on Chellini and the ensuing ban, combined with the large fee and promises they supposedly had made to him meant it was over for him at Anfield. If a player is determined to leave, what can you do? They'd already denied him a move the previous summer. To his credit, he never sulked and downed tools like Torres, instead delivering arguably the finest season of football ever seen from a Liverpool, or any other English league, player.