Pictures worth a 1000 words.

[Square Ball]

a very harrowing picture indeed Zap

Keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

took me a while to figure that one out

[Hardy]

MK - I agree. You misunderstand me, I think. I was commenting on the futility of searching for a better picture to tell the 1,000 words. That one tells a billion.

Zapatista - what's the full story?

[Zapatista]

The photographer didn't intervine to save the child. He decided that if he did the photo would lose its impact on people like us. He decided that the life of this child in this photograph would eventually save the life of many others. He was right in that sense as it triggered a huge reaction from the outside world in relation to Sudan saving many lives. The photographer eventually took his own life.

[Uladh]

That is the most horrific photo i've ever seen. I think i'd rather not have seen it nor heard the story so i could get on with life in my bubble and not be aware that there are despairing things all too common in the world.

some of the human rights violation images from indonesia on the same website would make you physically sick

[Minder]

What is the significance of the people with Bobby Sands ?

[Hardy]

I'd forgotten that aspect of it. What a moral dilemma. I think I'd have solved it by doing something immoral, but less so. I think I'd have saved the child, but lied (if only I knew the truth) and pretended he had died, to achieve the propaganda effect, thus fulfilling both apparently conflicting objectives at the expense of my own conscience.

I didn't know he eventually killed himself. It's easy to understand why.

[Zapatista]

What is the significance of the people with Bobby Sands ?

It includes the late British agent Dennis Donaldson with his arm around Sand's shoulder

[Zapatista]

I'd forgotten that aspect of it. What a moral dilemma. I think I'd have solved it by doing something immoral, but less so. I think I'd have saved the child, but lied (if only I knew the truth) and pretended he had died, to achieve the propaganda effect, thus fulfilling both apparently conflicting objectives at the expense of my own conscience.

I didn't know he eventually killed himself. It's easy to understand why.

That might have happened Hardy but we can only take his word for it.

[the Deel Rover]

The photographer didn't intervine to save the child. He decided that if he did the photo would lose its impact on people like us. He decided that the life of this child in this photograph would eventually save the life of many others. He was right in that sense as it triggered a huge reaction from the outside world in relation to Sudan saving many lives. The photographer eventually took his own life.

jesus that photo and story would bring a tear to a stone and we think we have problems On a sidenote just wondering have any of ye gone out or know anyone who had gone out on the niall mellon foundation trip to cape town in South Africa ?

[Hardy]

On reflection, I don't really see the point of allowing the child to die for the propaganda effect anyway. The picture is powerful enough in its own right to have stood without comment. People didn't need to know whether the child died for the picture to have a point.

On the other hand, I'm sure this was one of thousands of children who died in this famine and you can't make their rescue the responsibility of the photographers.

[magickingdom]

The photographer didn't intervine to save the child. He decided that if he did the photo would lose its impact on people like us. He decided that the life of this child in this photograph would eventually save the life of many others. He was right in that sense as it triggered a huge reaction from the outside world in relation to Sudan saving many lives. The photographer eventually took his own life.

if that what happened zapa the photographer was as cold as ice. who was he to make that decision.

[Zapatista]

On reflection, I don't really see the point of allowing the child to die for the propaganda effect anyway. The picture is powerful enough in its own right to have stood without comment. People didn't need to know whether the child died for the picture to have a point.

On the other hand, I'm sure this was one of thousands of children who died in this famine and you can't make their rescue the responsibility of the photographers.

I'd say he seen it all before and hoa little effect it had since Live Aid.

[Zapatista]

The photographer didn't intervine to save the child. He decided that if he did the photo would lose its impact on people like us. He decided that the life of this child in this photograph would eventually save the life of many others. He was right in that sense as it triggered a huge reaction from the outside world in relation to Sudan saving many lives. The photographer eventually took his own life.

if that what happened zapa the photographer was as cold as ice. who was he to make that decision.

YOu could be right I'm not judging either way. I do know that he saved more lives than I have anyway.

[The Real Laoislad]

The photographer didn't intervine to save the child. He decided that if he did the photo would lose its impact on people like us. He decided that the life of this child in this photograph would eventually save the life of many others. He was right in that sense as it triggered a huge reaction from the outside world in relation to Sudan saving many lives. The photographer eventually took his own life.

jesus that photo and story would bring a tear to a stone and we think we have problems On a sidenote just wondering have any of ye gone out or know anyone who had gone out on the niall mellon foundation trip to cape town in South Africa ?

I played in a Golf Classic yesterday in aid of someone who is going in November

[Zapatista]

Berlin Wall