Why hasn't Cluxton replied?

Started by BennyCake, March 13, 2018, 12:18:03 AM

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seafoid

Cluxton obviously didn't sign because he has an ENGLISH name and it is GAELIC games and the whole thing must be very embarrassing to him.

If his name was Stephen O Flaithbheartaighin of course he would have signed. Simples
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Snapchap

If anyone should happen to have the Irish News from last week, it would be well worth sticking up a photo of the article on this collection. It's a two page spread and tells the story of the historian collecting the autographs, some good backstories on the contributors etc. A very interesting read.

I see one poster stating that if Cluxton's autograph was got, it would "probably just go straight onto ebay". When you read the article and appreciate the work that this historian put in to gather the autographs, and the sheer love and knowledge of the game that motivated him, you'd realise just how inaccurate and downright cynical that ebay comment was.

A number of the messages accompanying the autographs were quoted in the article, and it was striking the number of them that expressed what seemed to be a genuinely felt gratitude for being asked for their autograph and how they felt humbled etc. I was particularly impressed by the note accompanying Kerry's Fionn Fitzgerald's autograph. His few short lines came across as particularly humble, polite and thoughtful.

In terms of Cluxton, he described how he has made numerous attempts to get Cluxton's autograph- through Cluxton himself and later through Jim Gavin, and that neither has replied. I can understand some saying 'well Cluxton has a right to ignore it' - but when you read the entire piece, and you see the work that went into the collection, and the emotional attachment the historian has to the collection, and against the fact that Cluxton's story is such a big part of any collection (his missing autograph leaves 4 blank years) it does end up making make you feel a bit disappointed in Cluxton. Especially against that fact that EVERY other person asked made the effort to respond. Interestingly, the historian himself doesn't make a single complaint about Cluxton for his non response. He just expressed how much it would mean to be able to complete the collection. I sincerely hope he gets the signature soon.

magpie seanie

Going public won't help his case. I know if it was me I'd have made arrangements to get his autograph.

Snapchap

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Quote from: magpie seanie on March 14, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
Going public won't help his case. I know if it was me I'd have made arrangements to get his autograph.

I do not believe for a second that getting Cluxton's autograph was the reason for the article. The Cluxton issue only makes up a fraction of the entire article. It seemed to me more like a sports columnist finding a man with an interesting story and devoting a full spread to telling it.

And the historian "made arrangements" to get every one of the autographs and making arrangements worked in every instance but one.

weareros

Quote from: Snapchap on March 14, 2018, 04:47:51 PM
Quote from: magpie seanie on March 14, 2018, 04:36:34 PM
Going public won't help his case. I know if it was me I'd have made arrangements to get his autograph.

I do not believe for a second that getting Cluxton's autograph was the reason for the article. The Cluxton issue only makes up a fraction of the entire article. It seemed to me more like a sports columnist finding a man with an interesting story and devoting a full spread to telling it.

And the historian "made arrangements" to get every one of the autographs and making arrangements worked in every instance but one.

Still unfair for article to call Cluxton out like this. The historian at end of day is a writer of a book, perhaps for profit, perhaps not. Cluxton is an amateur sportsman. If he didn't respond, it should have never been a public discussion. It's up to him where and when and if he wants to be quoted.

BennyCake

Good article. Think it was to highlight the uniqueness of his quest. And one captain said how honoured he was that he was actually remembered and that someone actually wanted his autograph. I guess when a player fades into obscurity, he can be somewhat forgotten, even an AI winning captain.

Think it highlighted how far and wide some dispersed to. One in California I think, and was interesting to hear his story, post AI-winner.

ONeill

Go on Cluxy....sign the buckin thing.
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Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: longballin on March 13, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
That's Cluxton... when he scored winning point in 2011 after the game Tomas handed him the ball in a very sporting gesture. Cluxton booted it away. Not great on social skills.

Cluxton called him later on to make sure he hadn't been offended.  And by his own account, he hadn't been. 

longballin

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 14, 2018, 11:33:49 PM
Quote from: longballin on March 13, 2018, 09:35:39 AM
That's Cluxton... when he scored winning point in 2011 after the game Tomas handed him the ball in a very sporting gesture. Cluxton booted it away. Not great on social skills.

Cluxton called him later on to make sure he hadn't been offended.  And by his own account, he hadn't been.

was a strange reaction to a generous gesture all the same to boot it away.

Jell 0 Biafra

Perhaps, but don't underestimate how much adrenaline must have been flowing through his system having just scored the winning point in a tight come-from-behind win to beat the county that had inflicted utter misery on Dublin football since the late 70's.

Nice gesture from O' Se, I agree.

Syferus

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 14, 2018, 11:44:27 PM
Perhaps, but don't underestimate how much adrenaline must have been flowing through his system having just scored the winning point in a tight come-from-behind win to beat the county that had inflicted utter misery on Dublin football since the late 70's.

Nice gesture from O' Se, I agree.

I doubt it had anything to do with adeneline. Cluxton hardly seems like the sort of lad who goes around collecting memorbilia from matches so why would he have any interest in a ball?

longballin

Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 14, 2018, 11:44:27 PM
Perhaps, but don't underestimate how much adrenaline must have been flowing through his system having just scored the winning point in a tight come-from-behind win to beat the county that had inflicted utter misery on Dublin football since the late 70's.

Nice gesture from O' Se, I agree.

aye I was there... was some excitement!

Jell 0 Biafra

Quote from: Syferus on March 14, 2018, 11:50:47 PM
Quote from: Jell 0 Biafra on March 14, 2018, 11:44:27 PM
Perhaps, but don't underestimate how much adrenaline must have been flowing through his system having just scored the winning point in a tight come-from-behind win to beat the county that had inflicted utter misery on Dublin football since the late 70's.

Nice gesture from O' Se, I agree.

I doubt it had anything to do with adeneline. Cluxton hardly seems like the sort of lad who goes around collecting memorbilia from matches so why would he have any interest in a ball?

I've never met him; I've no idea what kind of lad he is.  I wouldn't be judging his actions/character in those circumstances under normal gift-giving etiquette  is all.

Orior

Quote from: snoopdog on March 13, 2018, 10:52:55 AM
Why doesn't the guy who wants the autograph just go to Dublins next away league game and get it on the pitch after the game. I thinks it's Galway in tuam or salthill this weekend. Pointless thread.

Michael's mobility was rather impaired last year when he had a knee operation. Plus, he is in his late seventies.
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