Middle East landscape rapidly changing

Started by give her dixie, January 25, 2011, 02:05:36 PM

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seafoid

LBJ told the Israelis that they would easily defeat Nasser and that Nasser would not attack. Israel agreed

The establishment of the state of Israel against the wishes of the local people would only be imaginable in Ireland if a crowd of people claiming to be descendants from the Tuatha de Danann , backed up by the US, turned up and claimed that the whole island belonged to them.  Even the Unionists wouldn't try that one.   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

stew

Quote from: theskull1 on February 11, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
Stew, what if someone came and marked off half of your property by force, and set up shop and occupy it? What would you do?

Do you really need to ask that question GHD?  :)




Whereas the skull would fawn all over the fcukers grateful for the half he has left, liberal wally that he is. :P
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

give her dixie

(Reuters) - Switzerland has frozen assets that may belong to Hosni Mubarak, who stepped down as president of Egypt on Friday after 30 years of rule, the foreign ministry said.

"I can confirm that Switzerland has frozen possible assets of the former Egyptian president with immediate effect," spokesman Lars Knuchel said soon after Mubarak bowed to 18 days of mass protests. "As a result of this measure any assets are frozen for three years."

He did not say how much money was involved or where it was.

Assets belonging to Mubarak's associates would also be targeted so as to limit the chance of state funds being plundered, the ministry said. Mubarak and his associates would be prevented from selling or otherwise disposing of property, notably real estate.

In recent years, Switzerland has worked hard to improve its image as a haven for ill-gotten assets.

It has also frozen assets belonging to Tunisia's former president Zine al-Abidine Ben Ali, ousted by popular protests last month, and Ivory Coast's Laurent Gbagbo, who has refused to step down after an election which the outside world says he lost.

next stop, September 10, for number 4......

stew

[o need for hasbara on this site. The Golan belongs to Syria. Israel can't be a sparta forever. It can't run apartheid in the West Bank forever either.  Imagine England clearing every catholic out of County Armagh on some bollocks about security. That is what Israel did in the Golan.
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I dont agree with israel and they way they have treated the palestinians, they have wil short memories imho.

Syria, along with Egypt and Jordan attacked israel and when you do that, you tend to lose property and land when you lose the war, they attacked the Israelis and got the living shit kicked out of them in less than a week.

I deplore what they are doing to the palestinians and what the Arabs are trying to do to them and the whole region is fcuked up and has been for practicially ever.
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That's bollocks Stew. the middle East was where all of Spain's unwanted Jews found refuge after 1492, Europe didn't want them.
the region could be a superpower today. Israel and oil are the reasons it isn't. Israel doesn't belong in the Middle East.

Israel just lost its most important ally in the region and is now down to Jordan.
First thing to go hopefully will be the deal that has Egypt sell $14bn worth of gas to Israel for $2bn.
Second will be the inhuman siege of Gaza
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jesus, no wonder the place is f**ked up with simplistic western idiots like you sticking your nose in an pronouncing who does and does not belong in a certain area.
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Well said sheehy, the arrogance from the Jew haters on this site is remarkable. Israel has the right to exist, like it or not. the Palestinians have to get their home as well, this should have been resolved years ago and rejected.....................by the palestinians.
Armagh, the one true love of a mans life.

give her dixie

Stew, take a look at the recent revelations exposed by Wikileaks that show Abbas and the PA offered practically everything to Israel, and they rejected them.

Israel want the land, end of story. It's the Zionist plan. Plus Stew, ctritism of Israel is not critism of Jews.
Don't confuse the 2 please.
next stop, September 10, for number 4......

mannix

What a crazy world we live in, France and a few more are saying the Muslims are not welcome anymore. Could a big war be on the horizon?

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: seafoid on February 11, 2011, 06:35:43 PM
LBJ told the Israelis that they would easily defeat Nasser and that Nasser would not attack. Israel agreed

The establishment of the state of Israel against the wishes of the local people would only be imaginable in Ireland if a crowd of people claiming to be descendants from the Tuatha de Danann , backed up by the US, turned up and claimed that the whole island belonged to them.  Even the Unionists wouldn't try that one.

You are just another westerner interfering in middle east affairs, what right do you have to say who belongs where ?

Mike Sheehy

Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2011, 06:58:07 PM
Stew, take a look at the recent revelations exposed by Wikileaks that show Abbas and the PA offered practically everything to Israel, and they rejected them.

Israel want the land, end of story. It's the Zionist plan. Plus Stew, ctritism of Israel is not critism of Jews.
Don't confuse the 2 please.

You are not fooling anyone.

Arthur_Friend

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 11, 2011, 07:11:45 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2011, 06:58:07 PM
Stew, take a look at the recent revelations exposed by Wikileaks that show Abbas and the PA offered practically everything to Israel, and they rejected them.

Israel want the land, end of story. It's the Zionist plan. Plus Stew, ctritism of Israel is not critism of Jews.
Don't confuse the 2 please.

You are not fooling anyone.

Why don't you believe what he is saying? What evidence do you have to the contrary?

theskull1

Quote from: mannix on February 11, 2011, 07:03:40 PM
What a crazy world we live in, France and a few more are saying the Muslims are not welcome anymore. Could a big war be on the horizon?

I think as the west loses it's grip in the middle east...the more likely hood there is for all out war
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

theskull1

Quote from: stew on February 11, 2011, 06:48:41 PM
Quote from: theskull1 on February 11, 2011, 06:12:46 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2011, 05:35:34 PM
Stew, what if someone came and marked off half of your property by force, and set up shop and occupy it? What would you do?

Do you really need to ask that question GHD?  :)




Whereas the skull would fawn all over the fcukers grateful for the half he has left, liberal wally that he is. :P

Just read your contribution on the Computer Confessions thread stewy so had to change that pic to suit  :)

Some seriously disturbing ways of thinking about religion out there. Is it from the pulpit or is just years of the FOX network that does it to youses?
It's a lot easier to sing karaoke than to sing opera

Puckoon

Quote from: theskull1 on February 11, 2011, 07:30:48 PM
Some seriously disturbing ways of thinking about religion out there. Is it from the pulpit or is just years of the FOX network that does it to youses?

Nothing like a liberal application of Tar with the same brush of a Friday evenin'.

seafoid

Quote from: stew on February 11, 2011, 06:54:53 PM
[o need for hasbara on this site. The Golan belongs to Syria. Israel can't be a sparta forever. It can't run apartheid in the West Bank forever either.  Imagine England clearing every catholic out of County Armagh on some bollocks about security. That is what Israel did in the Golan.

I dont agree with israel and they way they have treated the palestinians, they have wil short memories imho.

Syria, along with Egypt and Jordan attacked israel and when you do that, you tend to lose property and land when you lose the war, they attacked the Israelis and got the living shit kicked out of them in less than a week.

I deplore what they are doing to the palestinians and what the Arabs are trying to do to them and the whole region is fcuked up and has been for practicially ever.
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That's bollocks Stew. the middle East was where all of Spain's unwanted Jews found refuge after 1492, Europe didn't want them.
the region could be a superpower today. Israel and oil are the reasons it isn't. Israel doesn't belong in the Middle East.

Israel just lost its most important ally in the region and is now down to Jordan.
First thing to go hopefully will be the deal that has Egypt sell $14bn worth of gas to Israel for $2bn.
Second will be the inhuman siege of Gaza
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jesus, no wonder the place is f**ked up with simplistic western idiots like you sticking your nose in an pronouncing who does and does not belong in a certain area.
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Stew

I speak arabic and I spent 2 years in the Middle East. How long did you spend in the region? The only reason Israel survives  is because of Western support and the oppression of the Palestinians. 

Israel is the only country in the world that needs nuclear weapons and a US veto to continue in business. Israel is the last colonial state.  Take away the special privileges Israeli Jews have and see how many stay. Most of them will leave.  Very few have made any attempt to understand the neighbours.  Israeli Jews have GNP per head of USD 30,000 and the Gazans down the road live on 2 dollars per day. It is not sustainable.   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

Quote from: Mike Sheehy on February 11, 2011, 07:11:45 PM
Quote from: give her dixie on February 11, 2011, 06:58:07 PM
Stew, take a look at the recent revelations exposed by Wikileaks that show Abbas and the PA offered practically everything to Israel, and they rejected them.

Israel want the land, end of story. It's the Zionist plan. Plus Stew, ctritism of Israel is not critism of Jews.
Don't confuse the 2 please.

You are not fooling anyone.

You need to read up on the Israeli Palestinian conflict. You can start by finding out about the Hebron settlers.
If Kerry was the West Bank you wouldn't be allowed to drive on the main road.  Yoiu wouldn't be allowed to build a house on your own land or drill for water in your parish.   
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

seafoid

#164
This is what the fall of Mubarak means for the people of the region

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fgw_zfLLvh8&sns=fb

"the most important thing is our rights" "our fate is our dreams""the heroes speak my words" and the chorus is "on all the streets of my nation the voice of freedom is playing"
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU