Good article detailing Dublin's unfair funding advantage

Started by TheMaster, February 13, 2019, 07:42:18 PM

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TheMaster

https://punditarena.com/features/emackenna/mackenna-on-monday-dublin-financial-advantage-must-be-addressed


The author is Ewan MacKenna once again- I'm aware people don't like him because he is of one of the few voices in the sports media who consistently calls out the Dubs and their unfair advantages (and because he can be quite combative generally), but please actually address the points he makes in the article rather than attacking his other work.

This funding imbalance has to be addressed- if Dublin continue to dominate, people will lose interest in Gaelic Football. The decline has probably already started- the attendance decline noted last week is ominous.

rrhf

Inter county Attendance will continue to decline. I would love to see stats done on the involvement of young adults and families proactively helping within gaa clubs / coaching etc. I suspect that figure has gone through the roof which would if proven indicate great health in the gaa at club level. Once people participate 3 or 4 times a week in the club they wouldn't have time or money or possibly the passion for passively watching the inter county game..ultimately separating club and county seasons will rectify that in due course but inter county = passive activity will always lose out to participating in a more rewarding and demanding club environment.

bannside

Compelling reading alright. Looks like Mc Kenna has done his homework so will be interesting to see if anyone disputes those stats. There's certainly a major disparity at play and sooner or later the rest of the counties will rise up and say enough is enough!

I don't blame Dublin at all. It's the 31 plus other counties who go to congress each year and ignore the hippo in the room. If they stood strong on the issue of equality, the deck would soon unfold. Having said that, Ryan was in Belfast recently at the launch of "Gaelfast", a schools coaching initiative worth £1.5m to Antrim over the next 5 years, to assist with the promotion of gaelic games in Belfast, another large urban area still relatively untapped. So for that reason alone we are grateful, but Mc Kenna s compelling case for parity still deserves to be answered.

Rossfan

Davy's given us a dream to cling to
We're going to bring home the SAM

MoChara

I know its pie in the sky talk these days but the GAA was created for the promotion of Gaelic games and Irish culture not promoting it to gain best financial return, this is what always annoys me most about the but Dublin bring home the bacon argument.

seafoid

It turns the All Ireland into a parody of a competition
Even the Super 8s are pointless and the attendances are proof

Money corrodes competition when the structures are arseways. Just look at recent Champions League Finals.
What was most sickening about that article was the bit about the marketing potential of 1.2 million Dubs fans
The GAA was never about that.

It's about Horse Lawlor sending Carlow people into ecstasy against Kildare or what Dermot Earley means to Rossies 
Any time Mairtin Og went to New York he wouldn't have to pay for his dinner.  The Monday after the Leinster final in Mullinalaghta
Paddy Cullen running back to his goal.
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

bannside

#6
Looking at this subjectively, I think one solution may be to devide Dublin into two. North and South. I know this has been mooted previously, some even say devide into four, but there's a strong case to be made for it on economical grounds too....given this seems to be a driving influence!

It's well known that Dubliners are very sensitive to their North /South roots so this rivalry could open up even more passion for games within the capital.  North could play Parnell Park and South at Abbotsown. Croke Park could return to the organisation.

On the basis there's now 34 counties (London included) a motion should be forwarded that in interests of financial parity that all annual revenue allocated for development is distributed equally between 34 participating counties. Yes both Dublins would still attract major sponsorship etc but there would be a much more level playing field for all.

bannside

Won't be long until Mc Kenna opens up on the racket that is mileage expenses. Could a county actually spend €580k on "mileage expenses" in one year??? The detail of which would be fascinating.

Meanwhile the silence is deafening from officialdom. Could that be because some of them are the biggest benefactors!

What's the rate? 65pence a mile yes/no???

J70


Dinny Breen

Pulled some of it from here, including the hurling argument. He's still a arsehole.
#newbridgeornowhere

seafoid

Quote from: Dinny Breen on February 14, 2019, 12:33:36 PM
Pulled some of it from here, including the hurling argument. He's still a arsehole.
So what. The content is the issue
"f**k it, just score"- Donaghy   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbxG2WwVRjU

trailer

Weaker counties are holding the better counties back. They should drop into their own tiered competition. The elite counties can they have a fair run the AI. Better Ulster counties have to come through a dogfight to get a go at Dublin.
Weaker counties should be paid off. Once they get good enough they can then come back into the fold. Carlow, Leitrim, Derry etc.



Baile Brigín 2

So basically you were all happy for the Dubs to fund your clubhouses and county grounds, but the minute Dublin got organised and spent money well, waaah waaah.

Happy to have a situation where counties can only spend what they earn.

priceyreilly

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 14, 2019, 08:19:51 PM
So basically you were all happy for the Dubs to fund your clubhouses and county grounds, but the minute Dublin got organised and spent money well, waaah waaah.

Happy to have a situation where counties can only spend what they earn.

;D The funny thing is that your county ground Croke Park was funded by all of us, your facilities in DCU and elsewhere were funded by all of us and your 6 All Ireland's were funded by all of us! Show a bit of gratitude.

caprea

Quote from: Baile Brigín 2 on February 14, 2019, 08:19:51 PM
So basically you were all happy for the Dubs to fund your clubhouses and county grounds, but the minute Dublin got organised and spent money well, waaah waaah.

Happy to have a situation where counties can only spend what they earn.

Dublin - Because they're worth it