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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 03, 2018, 12:17:55 PM »
I got whatsapps last night of Facebook pictures of the complainant. I also got screenshots of random text messages exchanged saying these claim are fabricated.

If this lady has been raped you really got to feel sick for her.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 09:19:53 AM »
Not surprised this sort of carryon exists within Irish rugby.

What's been heard so far does not look very good at all for the defendants.

Not sure how you can say that, but then again rationale is limited with a lot of posters in these types of threads.

I would urge caution on replying to that poster. It will take this thread down a bad road.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 07:49:50 AM »
I don’t think it’s really like the ched Evans case at all to be honest.

The girl didn’t even know originally she had sex with anyone in the ched Evans case. She just woke up in a hotel room and didn’t know how she got there.

Think what happened here is more clear cut from the complainant’s point of view although not completely clear cut.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 07:36:23 AM »
The girl who walked in is going to be a defence witness. It was on newstalk.

I think the physical evidence is key and saying this could be caused by consensual sex while true doesn’t quite cover what I see in the physical evidence.

I have to be quite graphic here. If a rapist was lying on a girl and had her trousers down but couldn’t penetrate because her legs were closed together he would have to open her legs forcefully, to do that the most effective way would be to knee her on the inside of the inner thigh to stun the leg and put his knee into keep her legs open. He would then have enough room to penetrate. The sex would not be smooth like normal sex because the girl would most likely be trying to force her legs shut and wouldn’t be working in tandem with rapist, instead it would be a struggle from the girl that seems very possible to cause internal injuries.

So the physical injuries of a bruise on the thigh and bleeding on the vaginal wall are to me a big red flag.

I didn't read anywhere about bruising on thighs etc caprea...have you got a link to where they mentioned that.  If there was bruising yo thighs or other areas of her body I would be back on the they are guilty but as I say I didn't read that in the report from case I've read.

https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/it-was-like-a-merrygoround-at-a-carnival-ireland-rugby-stars-accused-of-rape-boasted-about-sex-on-whatsapp-36547048.html

She said she had bruising on thighs.....but then it says further down that medical personnel observed bruising on her genitals...so it could be from sex rather than how I originally read it as a knee etc to the inner thigh to get her legs open.

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General discussion / Re: The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 02, 2018, 12:29:52 AM »
The girl who walked in is going to be a defence witness. It was on newstalk.

I think the physical evidence is key and saying this could be caused by consensual sex while true doesn’t quite cover what I see in the physical evidence.

I have to be quite graphic here. If a rapist was lying on a girl and had her trousers down but couldn’t penetrate because her legs were closed together he would have to open her legs forcefully, to do that the most effective way would be to knee her on the inside of the inner thigh to stun the leg and put his knee into keep her legs open. He would then have enough room to penetrate. The sex would not be smooth like normal sex because the girl would most likely be trying to force her legs shut and wouldn’t be working in tandem with rapist, instead it would be a struggle from the girl that seems very possible to cause internal injuries.

So the physical injuries of a bruise on the thigh and bleeding on the vaginal wall are to me a big red flag.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:46:54 PM »
What an abomination of a thread this is.

I’ve open a new thread for it. Probably best.

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General discussion / The ulster rugby trial
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:45:56 PM »
It was hijacking the rugby thread...

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:40:33 PM »
Why wait 2 days before going to police and then forget someone (a woman) came into the room when it was all happening? She’d have been the first person you’d have in your prosecution team, her evidence and those others at the house should nail them

Never mind the QC, the QC is doing a job, a fairly scummy job but it’s the life he chose.

This is what you posted. This was your opinion. You think that’s decent?

I clarified my post, that’s what came from the news, from what the QC said, hopefully you won’t need a scummy QC in the future!

To me you’re lying. I don’t how you expected anyone to read that post and think you were quoting the QC. It read as your own opinion.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:36:24 PM »
Why wait 2 days before going to police and then forget someone (a woman) came into the room when it was all happening? She’d have been the first person you’d have in your prosecution team, her evidence and those others at the house should nail them

Never mind the QC, the QC is doing a job, a fairly scummy job but it’s the life he chose.

This is what you posted. This was your opinion. You think that’s decent?

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:31:01 PM »
Why wait 2 days before going to police and then forget someone (a woman) came into the room when it was all happening? She’d have been the first person you’d have in your prosecution team, her evidence and those others at the house should nail them

"why wait two days before going to police...."

Ffs, that's a shite thing to come out with

You a dick also? This came from the defence QC, keep up

It’s a shite thing to come out. If you were in a room with the girl would you ask her that question? Probably not. Why? Because you’d have the common sense to know it would make you sound like a really terrible person. Reflect on that..

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:25:57 PM »
I’ve never been raped either thank god but I’d say “completely rotten”...doesn’t really cover it. I’d say life changing with frequent flashbacks that are requiring counseling to manage is a closer description of reality.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 11:08:36 PM »
Was watching the news tonight about it and that’s what came from it, that’s a fact that came out from the defence questioning the girl..

Never been raped by three people before but I think I’d be at the cop shop that night if I’m being honest.. emotionally it’s hard I’m sure you’d be but that’s the view from someone not in that position..

How come you’ve so much inside knowledge on this?

Fair enough on the witness, the witness is going to side with the ulster players.

I think the sentence you need to dwell on is “never been raped by three people before”

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 10:51:49 PM »
Why wait 2 days before going to police and then forget someone (a woman) came into the room when it was all happening? She’d have been the first person you’d have in your prosecution team, her evidence and those others at the house should nail them

Why do you think she forgot someone came into the room. Not sure where you are getting that conclusion from?

The two days is absolutely irreverent. Just shows bias on your part.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 10:50:57 PM »
Why wait 2 days before going to police and then forget someone (a woman) came into the room when it was all happening? She’d have been the first person you’d have in your prosecution team, her evidence and those others at the house should nail them

The witness who walked into the room will definitely be called surely. If she is called by the persecution it’s probably game over for the ulster men. If she’s called by the defence it’s game on.

There’s probably a way of checking already who is calling her. It would be in the book of evidence submitted already I think.

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General discussion / Re: The IRISH RUGBY thread
« on: February 01, 2018, 10:09:33 PM »
And I’ll just say that I thought ched Evans should always have been found not guilty although it was a complex case.

But this trial my friends is a horse of a very different colour.

Maybe there is some astounding evidence for the defence we are yet to hear but unless we hear it the only hope those ulster boys have is a jury of dubious personal beliefs

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