China Coronavirus

[armaghniac]

Can you catch the virus twice?

Yes.

This is uncertain at present.

I think its been observed several times in China and also in Japan.

I believe current thinking is it doesn't infect the same way twice, but you can still get it twice. A google of that may turn up more.

It is suspected that some of these cases were people who hadn't fully recovered in the first place.
Better tests are needed.

[RedHand88]

France v Ireland rugby off.

I am sensing there must be a big spike on the horizon as suddenly action is being taken.

Spanish cases have doubled in the last day, they're over 1000 now. It sounds like there's a big spike coming here.

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I'm New York for paddies. Advice lads

[Milltown Row2]

Good decision by the Club.There's plenty of other watering holes for your St Paddys day

What pub would allow a St Galls member in when they should in isolation?

Can you catch the virus twice?

Yes.

This is uncertain at present.

You could have it and not have symptoms, the person wasn't in the affected area, so self isolation wouldn't have been necessary unless the symptoms were quick I'd assume.

[Dire Ear]

All kicking off now, I'd expect numbers to double and triple each day now for a while

[J70]

I'm New York for paddies. Advice lads

Answered you in the other thread:

I'm for new york. What's people's thoughts with this virus?

Its just starting to ramp up here in NYC and given the cheek-to-jowel existence, the numbers will climb fairly rapidly. I wouldn't rule out the parade being cancelled yet.

[Gabriel_Hurl]

San Fran parade on Saturday is cancelled

[Fear Bun Na Sceilpe]

I'm New York for paddies. Advice lads

Answered you in the other thread:

I'm for new york. What's people's thoughts with this virus?

Its just starting to ramp up here in NYC and given the cheek-to-jowel existence, the numbers will climb fairly rapidly. I wouldn't rule out the parade being cancelled yet.

Thanks

[Eamonnca1]

I'm New York for paddies. Advice lads

Is your ticket refundable? I wouldn't travel if I were you.

[armaghniac]

I'm New York for paddies. Advice lads

Is your ticket refundable? I wouldn't travel if I were you.

This might be around the right colour

[larryin89]

It's very confusing, I can't fathom how serious it all is . Quick question ,albeit it's a selfish one . In the construction sector we have a shitty enough pension we pay into every week , this also has a sick pay , we get so much per day for up to 50 days per year I think it is , if sites are forced to close would we be able to claim this ?

[seafoid]

https://twitter.com/silviast9/status/1236933818654896129


Silvia Stringhini

@silviast9


1/ I may be repeating myself, but I want to fight this sense of security that I see outside of the epicenters, as if nothing was going to happen "here". The media in Europe are reassuring, politicians are reassuring, while there's little to be reassured of. #COVID19 #coronavirus

2/This is the English translation of a post of another ICU physician in Bergamo, Dr. Daniele Macchini. Read until the end "After much thought about whether and what to write about what is happening to us, I felt that silence was not responsible.

3/ I will therefore try to convey to people far from our reality what we are living in Bergamo in these days of Covid-19 pandemic. I understand the need not to create panic, but when the message of the dangerousness of what is happening does not reach people I shudder.

4/ I myself watched with some amazement the reorganization of the entire hospital in the past week, when our current enemy was still in the shadows: the wards slowly "emptied", elective activitieswere interrupted, intensive care were freed up to create as many beds as possible.

5/ All this rapid transformation brought an atmosphere of silence and surreal emptiness to the corridors of the hospital that we did not yet understand, waiting for a war that was yet to begin and that many (including me) were not so sure would ever come with such ferocity.

6/ I still remember my night call a week ago when I was waiting for the results of a swab. When I think about it, my anxiety over one possible case seems almost ridiculous and unjustified, now that I've seen what's happening. Well, the situation now is dramatic to say the least.

7/ The war has literally exploded and battles are uninterrupted day and night. But now that need for beds has arrived in all its drama. One after the other the departments that had been emptied fill up at an impressive pace.

8/ The boards with the names of the patients, of different colours depending on the operating unit, are now all red and instead of surgery you see the diagnosis, which is always the damned same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia.

9/ Now, explain to me which flu virus causes such a rapid drama. [post continues comparing covid19 to flu, link below]. And while there are still people who boast of not being afraid by ignoring directions, protesting because their normal routine is"temporarily" put in crisis,

10/ the epidemiological disaster is taking place. And there are no more surgeons, urologists, orthopedists, we are only doctors who suddenly become part of a single team to face this tsunami that has overwhelmed us.

11/ Cases are multiplying, we arrive at a rate of 15-20 admissions per day all for the same reason. The results of the swabs now come one after the other: positive, positive, positive. Suddenly the E.R. is collapsing.

12/ Reasons for the access always the same: fever and breathing difficulties, fever and cough, respiratory failure. Radiology reports always the same: bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia, bilateral interstitial pneumonia. All to be hospitalized.

13/ Someone already to be intubated and go to intensive care. For others it's too late... Every ventilator becomes like gold: those in operating theatres that have now suspended their non-urgent activity become intensive care places that did not exist before.

14/ The staff is exhausted. I saw the tiredness on faces that didn't know what it was despite the already exhausting workloads they had. I saw a solidarity of all of us, who never failed to go to our internist colleagues to ask "what can I do for you now?"

15/ Doctors who move beds and transfer patients, who administer therapies instead of nurses. Nurses with tears in their eyes because we can't save everyone, and the vital parameters of several patients at the same time reveal an already marked destiny.

16/ There are no more shifts, no more hours. Social life is suspended for us. We no longer see our families for fear of infecting them. Some of us have already become infected despite the protocols.

17/ Some of our colleagues who are infected also have infected relatives and some of their relatives are already struggling between life and death. So be patient, you can't go to the theatre, museums or the gym. Try to have pity on the myriad of old people you could exterminate.

18/ We just try to make ourselves useful. You should do the same: we influence the life a
d death of a few dozen people. You with yours, many more. Please share this message. We must spread the word to prevent what is happening here from happening all over Italy."

20/ I finish by saying that I really don't understand this war on panic. The only reason I see is mask shortages, but there's no mask on sale anymore. We don't have a lot of studies, but is it panic really worse than neglect and carelessness during an epidemic of this sort?

[RedHand88]

Belfast st Patrick's day off now too. If the holylands could become a quarantined zone, that would be great.

[RedHand88]

Italy has now officially taken the roads in.

[armaghniac]

It's very confusing, I can't fathom how serious it all is . Quick question ,albeit it's a selfish one . In the construction sector we have a shitty enough pension we pay into every week , this also has a sick pay , we get so much per day for up to 50 days per year I think it is , if sites are forced to close would we be able to claim this ?

Actually, construction is one area which might be able to carry on. A lot of the work is in the open air and people are not that close together and often already wear masks, gloves and goggles. Not the first to close, I would have thought.
Can't help on the question.