Will you get a Covid vaccine if one becomes available in 2021?

[Louther]

"Poland [population 37.8m] has reported the highest number of new virus-related deaths so far this year - 653 in 24 hours."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56586804

Yesterday's figure for the UK [population 68.1m] was 56 deaths.

Meanwhile, the UK vaccination rate currently covers 50.85% of the total population, whilst Poland's equivalent is 16.07%:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1196071/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-europe-by-country/

Yet you still get morons advising us all not to get vaccinated. 

Poland in a very poor way and looks like parts of Europe going to suffer over next few months as vaccines are so slow getting out. No wonder if your Germany example is the common theme. Plus if the healthcare system so stressed with covid infections it's rollout will suffer too from ability to roll it out.

You get people all talk about not getting it, particularly on social media and forums, but when it comes to it these same people be first in line with sleeves rolled up looking the jab. They like to seem important and build up an online persona that is far removed from the reality of who they really are.

[Evil Genius]

Dunno how reliable this is ("Politics For All"?), but terrific news if true:

@PoliticsForAlI

1h

BREAKING: A new major study from Denmark finds that there were FEWER cases of blood clots in people who had the AZ vaccine than the general population
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1377266848304144386

[Evil Genius]

"Poland [population 37.8m] has reported the highest number of new virus-related deaths so far this year - 653 in 24 hours."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56586804

Yesterday's figure for the UK [population 68.1m] was 56 deaths.

Meanwhile, the UK vaccination rate currently covers 50.85% of the total population, whilst Poland's equivalent is 16.07%:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1196071/covid-19-vaccination-rate-in-europe-by-country/

Yet you still get morons advising us all not to get vaccinated. 

Poland in a very poor way and looks like parts of Europe going to suffer over next few months as vaccines are so slow getting out. No wonder if your Germany example is the common theme. Plus if the healthcare system so stressed with covid infections it's rollout will suffer too from ability to roll it out.

Yep, for instance Ukraine [population 43.7m, though some of those may be in the Russian-occupied part] recorded 407 Covid deaths yesterday.

One esp heart-breaking story:

"Volodymyr and Diana Rodikov were raising three of their own and eight adopted children in a family-type orphanage in the village of Lypovy Skitok near Kyiv.

The family has gone through many trials. In 2014, they had to flee the war in Donbass, leaving behind their home and all their possessions, and start all over again.

In 2017, they settled in a large spacious house in the village.

"I saw these children, they were happy. They hugged their mother, played with their father. They did everything together - prepared preserves for the winter, baked cakes. They were a great team of absolutely happy children," local official Iryna Gorbacheva tells BBC News Ukraine.

Diana and Volodymyr were hospitalised with Covid-19 in early March. Eight of the 11 children were also diagnosed with coronavirus but they had much milder symptoms.

The parents were transferred to intensive care, where for more than three weeks doctors fought for their lives - but could not save them.

Now the children live in a rehabilitation centre where they receive psychological help.

"These children went through a lot of grief - the tragedy of their own families when they found themselves in an orphanage, war, resettlement," says Gorbacheva.

Social workers and local deputies are looking for new foster parents for the children."
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-56586804

P.S. The UK's Covid death rate has fallen further today to 43, as compared with 56 yesterday.

[Armagh18]

NPHET would just depress ye at this stage.

[Evil Genius]

UK administered as many 2nd jabs as 1st jabs today, for the first time - approx 250k of each.

[Taylor]

UK administered as many 2nd jabs as 1st jabs today, for the first time - approx 250k of each.

Superb figures.

If the vaccination rate continues like this then we should be all covered & back to normal sooner than anticipated.

The UK Gov fucked up a lot of things during this pandemic from care homes, to awarding contracts to mates, to lockdowns etc etc.

But their rollout of the vaccine, thus far, has been world leading

[armaghniac]

UK administered as many 2nd jabs as 1st jabs today, for the first time - approx 250k of each.

This will be the pattern.  They were doing 300,00+ first jabs back in Jan/Feb and these people now require a second jab. There will be less progress on first jabs for a while, supply won't be growing in April. Younger folk will get their jabs May/June when supply increases.

[Evil Genius]

UK administered as many 2nd jabs as 1st jabs today, for the first time - approx 250k of each.

This will be the pattern.  They were doing 300,00+ first jabs back in Jan/Feb and these people now require a second jab. There will be less progress on first jabs for a while, supply won't be growing in April. Younger folk will get their jabs May/June when supply increases.

I think (could be wrong, mind) that this was partly down to individual supply issues, not just pure clinical reasons.

That is, if your 1st jab is Pfizer, the 2nd has to be Pfizer too. Ditto with AZ.

Meaning that if they're esp short of one but have plenty of the other, or expect that to be the case in the coming days, they'll pile ahead with 2nd jabs from the one they do have.

[Angelo]

Company of a govt TD's brother getting a multi million contract to recruit zero hour contract workers in a pandemic without tender is not a good look I think we will all agree.

Is this CPL the publicly listed company that was bought by a Japanese multinational?

After the contract was awarded.

At the time of the contract being awarded which was early last year it was in the ownership of a FG TD's brother.

I was adding to my post when you replied. I am pretty sure CPL was listed on the stock exchange albeit the CEO was about a 33% shareholder. The CEO and founder is actually married to the brother so she might object to you calling it "his" company!

They owned a 34% shareholding between them and were directors in the company from an article I looked at there.

I think we can all agree though that a FG govt with a FG minister for health awarding a multi-million untendered contract to recruit workers on zero hour contracts to a company with close family ties to a FG TD (being the largest shareholders) in the middle of a pandemic has a very bad look to it.

Is that another gript article? Spoofer. Have you decided if it's her uncle or brother?

No. It's an Irish Times article.

And you're triggered, pet.

You're hiding, true trait of a spoofer.

You claimed that her brother was owner of CPL? Did you not?

The source of this was Gript who wrongly claimed this. Gript is a known right wing media ran by John McGuirk.

So you get your info from right wing media. An absolute spoofer.

You're rattled wee man.

He did own the company. I think you're telling claiming fibs if he didn't own the company. You're very easily triggered by criticism of the following things:

- Free State corruption
- FFG failings
- English football

There's a pattern emerging to your psyche. Are you a bit of an anglophile would you say?

Firstly, he isn't her brother? Can you address that for the 3rd time? You claimed and continue to claim it's the case. Can we really believe anything you say?

If you using Gript with it's known right wing agenda where facts are optional, what else have you said that comes form these type of sources.

And he Uncle held a minority shareholding in a listed company where the majority holding was his actual wife who he is separated from.

You carry on deflecting. Sign of a spoofer Wee Man.

I don't know why you keep referencing Gript.

It seems to be that you like to spread baseless innuendo without a shred of evidence when your beloved Anglophile tendencies are exposed.

Diddums.

4th time - is Paul Carroll the TD's brother or Sister that you have claimed, as have Gript?

Can you not admit you got it wrong? Spoofer.

I haven't a clue if what you are saying is right or wrong.

I don't read Gript, but clearly to know that you must.

It's interesting to see how worked up you are getting up about discussing the untendered multi-million contracts getting handed out to business with close family connections to a FG TD which exploit workers through zero hour contracts.

So now you have actually accidentally exposed yourself as a reader of far right editorials as a well as an unashamed defender of Blueshirt cronyism.

I can understand why you are triggered.

[Louther]

All the hallmarks of an absolute spoofer and bluffer.

You stated someone was a brother of a TD. Twice. Now you are saying you don't know or "rather haven't a clue".

So do you make a habit of saying stuff that you haven't a clue about? Is that generally how you post stuff to make your points? Can we really trust anything you say?

Why did you say it was her brother if you "haven't a clue" if what I say is right or wrong?

And I know it was gript who ran the story and got it very wrong cause they got pulled on it at the time by a people who regularly expose their misinformation and far right propaganda.

You are a bluffer Wee man.

[Angelo]

All the hallmarks of an absolute spoofer and bluffer.

You stated someone was a brother of a TD. Twice. Now you are saying you don't know or "rather haven't a clue".

So do you make a habit of saying stuff that you haven't a clue about? Is that generally how you post stuff to make your points? Can we really trust anything you say?

Why did you say it was her brother if you "haven't a clue" if what I say is right or wrong?

And I know it was gript who ran the story and got it very wrong cause they got pulled on it at the time by a people who regularly expose their misinformation and far right propaganda.

You are a bluffer Wee man.

So it's ok because it was actually her uncle.

Uncle/brother doesn't seem to make any difference to the general point, it's just the semantics for you to try and digress away from the cronyism of FG.

You also made a mess of your Gript point. In trying to baselessly associate me with them you have outed yourself as a reader of their content, I can't tell you what Gript say because I don't read their articles. You on the other hand seem to know exactly what they say and what they don't say and you ironically have exposed that when you were trying to make that incorrect and baseless allegation against me.

Some village in Louth has now exported their specialist in idiocy to the internet.

[Louther]

Try and twist it all you like and make it about something else.

Fact: You lied, twice. Can't even say why you claimed it was her brother. Did you just guess? Na, one of your far right racist rags said it and you believed.

Can we really believe anything you say?

Likely get lot of your other "facts" form Gript and the like.

Exposed as a liar.   

[tbrick18]

Hearing some great stories on numbers vaccinated and certainly numbers of infections and deaths lend some weight to the argument that the vaccinations and lockdowns are working.
However, possibly anecdotal, I know of 4 primary schools having to close due to covid infections and in one case a year group having to stay off due to infections.

My own parents were in hospital yesterday where my dad was getting his prep for another round of treatment. The doctor said that when he comes in for treatment he'll not be able to bring anyone in with him due to covid restrictions and because they are preparing for the start of the 3rd wave. Parents didn't really ask why that was the case as they'd other things on their mind, but a worrying development all the same.

It might be a leap, but perhaps schools returning and some already closing alongside the return of all kids to school in a couple of weeks is expected to trigger the third wave. Depressing if true.
We're not out of the woods yet, but vaccinations definately the best chance of putting us into a position of being able to live with this virus.

[Angelo]

Try and twist it all you like and make it about something else.

Fact: You lied, twice. Can't even say why you claimed it was her brother. Did you just guess? Na, one of your far right racist rags said it and you believed.

Can we really believe anything you say?

Likely get lot of your other "facts" form Gript and the like.

Exposed as a liar.   

You outed yourself as a Gript reader when tyring to falsely claim I was with baseless allegations.

I think you might have learned a lesson where running your mouth off leads you to.

[Louther]

Try and twist it all you like and make it about something else.

Fact: You lied, twice. Can't even say why you claimed it was her brother. Did you just guess? Na, one of your far right racist rags said it and you believed.

Can we really believe anything you say?

Likely get lot of your other "facts" form Gript and the like.

Exposed as a liar.   

You outed yourself as a Gript reader when tyring to falsely claim I was with baseless allegations.

I think you might have learned a lesson where running your mouth off leads you to.

Rather sad attempt at deflection.

You lied. End of story.

And I've have no problem telling you of the other lies and poison that Gript spread. It actually resonates with a lot of your agenda in here - anti-vac, anti-lockdown, racist, anti-mask. Selfish shower who want it all their own way really. Can see why it appeals to you.

Liar.